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Reply by Jeremi Lett on September 4, 2010 at 12:35

The more u know the less u need is a survival motto I have heard.If u are to use more ammo than using a machete at the time,then u do not "need" one now.However once u buy the blade,u wont have to buy more bullets 4 it!Safe shooting Jake.Speakin of target practice,chek these shots I made from 24 ft. away!I nailed that can! If they run...they will just die tired!!!

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Reply by Jake on September 4, 2010 at 12:41

Wow! Nice throwing!

Reply by KENT GABLE on August 13, 2011 at 17:02

Jake- My personal machete is made by Ontario Knife Co. here in the USA. It is 18" lg., saw tooth spine, black finish, handle guard and has served me well for about the past 5 or more years whacking weeds, briars & up to 2" scrub pine on some property I own down here in FL.

I DID have to sharpen it up when I first got it & had to surf around to find a nylon sheath but despite all the use & abuse I've given it, it sharpens up quickly with an oil stone.

I think Ontario Knives still makes their machetes here and in my opinion, the quality of Chinese steel is not up to the  same quality of US and some European steel and therein lies the problem.

Reply by KENT GABLE on August 13, 2011 at 17:31

On a slightly different subject, namely "saws", I know that I've discussed this with my friends Shlomo, Robert Burris and a few others. My problem has been with my Gerber folding hand saw which I originally purchased for my survival kit. I used it to cut quite a few thick palm fronds and although the saw held up fine, the handle did not.

In all fairness to Gerber Co. who has made fine quality tactical & boot knives in the past, the plastic handle (again made in China) cracked and split where it meets the saw. I sent it back and they promptly sent me at no cost, a nice replacement, complete with a sheath and extra saw blade that didn't come with my original purchase, so I'm satisfied. It's a fair deal and Gerber is obviously trying to make good with their customers. I think it is priced around $20.

But, the handle is the same and being made of plastic, unfortunately, I do NOT have a great deal of faith in it's longevity? Again, I purchased it more for unforeseen emergencies rather than regular use and maybe the first one was just a fluke? I have seen what appears to be a better quality  Japanese made folding saw on Garrett Wade Tools' website but here we are talking about $32.00 (I think) for the smaller 5" saw.

With me, I am usually willing to pay more for a quality item, especially when it comes to knives, axes, guns & tools, in the hope that it will give me good, reliable service on which I can depend. In the long run,  it's usually worth the extra dough.

Reply by Robert Burris on August 13, 2011 at 18:10

Kent, check out my gear review in the outdoor group. It's about that saw. Talk about a winner.

Reply by Jeremi Lett on August 13, 2011 at 19:20

Owned the GI issue machete years ago and I agree w/Kent.That thing took out miles of trails while I had it.Gave it to a good friend when he moved to a heavily wooded area.It was a workhorse tho!

KENT GABLE said:

Jake- My personal machete is made by Ontario Knife Co. here in the USA. It is 18" lg., saw tooth spine, black finish, handle guard and has served me well for about the past 5 or more years whacking weeds, briars & up to 2" scrub pine on some property I own down here in FL.

I DID have to sharpen it up when I first got it & had to surf around to find a nylon sheath but despite all the use & abuse I've given it, it sharpens up quickly with an oil stone.

I think Ontario Knives still makes their machetes here and in my opinion, the quality of Chinese steel is not up to the  same quality of US and some European steel and therein lies the problem.

Reply by Shlomo ben Maved on January 5, 2012 at 14:24

Contact The Machete Specialists -- their name says it all.

Reply by Lee Smith on February 16, 2013 at 23:04

I have a woodsmans pal. If you go to there site they usually have some seconds pretty cheap. Back of my land is pretty overgrown. I got one and it works great.

Were tactical tomahawks ever issued to the military as a weapon?

Posted by Clint Thompson on September 13, 2011 at 13:08

I just received my copy of the Nov. issue of Knives Illustrated which will be on the newstands the first of October. Check it out.

 

My article is "Tomahawks as Tactical Weapons".  I explored the Vietnam Tomahawk issue with a former LRRP Ranger who was there from 1968 to 1969.  He never seen or heard of or knew of any LRRP who had seen or heard of any Vietnam Tomahawk or any other tomahawk in theater.  I would like some feedback from this group about the subject of tomahawks.  I would like feedback from those who have seen or carried a tomahawk in a military conflict at anytime or anywhere in the world....so feed back from any source...not just us Yanks.

For instance, I have a Navy Seal friend of 18 years service as a Seal and retired from the Navy with over 20 years service.  He told me he never seen or heard of any Navy Seal carrying a tomahawk in those 18 years.  This was what the LRRP Ranger of Vietnam era told me as well.  Yes I believe tomahawks were carried in Vietnam and could have been carried in every conflict we were involved in.  However, they were never standard issue and if issued were used as a tool and not a weapon.  So buy the magazine, read my article and give me some input.

If you were ever in any military special operations unit who was issued a tomahawk, please let me know by way of this form.  Thanks.

Reply by James Cole on May 19, 2013 at 14:17

Clint, Just cruising the site and saw your post.  I had heard for years that hawks were used in Viet Nam, but had no first hand knowledge.  A quick search turned up this website and article.  I have no validation, but thought you might be interested in reading it.

http://www.knifecollector.net/TomahawksAndWar.html

Reply by Clint Thompson on May 19, 2013 at 15:07

James....

I see Puritan Pride vitamins was at the top of this information page.  Strange to have a heading of a company who sell supplements and vitamins in a war tomahawk article.  I read the piece and can say it is all not true.

In Vietnam no one was ever issued a Tomahawk.  The "Vietnam Tomahawk" was never issued to anyone.  Soldiers bought them or the maker sent two dozen to a unit for free but no one was ever issued a Tomahawk.  In fact no one was ever issued a combat knife.  The LRRP units of which were famous for carrying the Vietnam Tomahawk (tongue and cheek...LOL...not true) was not even issued combat knives let alone a non-standard tool or weapon from the military.

I have talked to many military personnel, former military personnel, Marines, SF and Seals and none of them were ever issued a Tomahawk.  Now the Seals are issued SOG combat knives but it is my understanding SOG gives the Seals the knives in order to use the name Seal on a couple of their products.  Delta may get combat knives issued as I do not know as I have never met a Delta soldier long enough to visit with.

The only tools or Tomahawks the military have are placed in armored vehicles, one per, as a utility tool.  I do know individual soldiers do buy Tomahawks to have or carry.  Seal or SF are given many knives, tools and Tomahawks in an effort for the makers to say my tomahawk is being carried in Iraq or in Afghanistan.  It is the Vietnam Tomahawk all over again.  While in Iraq I received a dozen Tomahawks from SOG.  I gave them to a SF unit who were to test drive them.  The SF guys busted the handles with carefree enthusiasm.  I sent one of these broken hawks back to SOG who promptly re-engineered them and have the present day excellent Hawk tool.

Many of the Seal Tera One (Team Six) buy or are given the Daniel Winkler combat knives and or Tomahawks.  I was told by Eddie "some of the guys will get the Winkler Tomahawks and carry them a couple of times so they can say they carried them in Afghanistan."  It is my understanding they were used as a weapon and not a tool....which proved to be a problem when one was to extract it from a skull. 

The Winkler Tomahawks are top notch but are way too heavy to carry 10 miles up a mountain to pull off an ambush.  They would carry the Winkler Utility Combat Knife but not the Hawk.  Eddie told me he would not even carry his handgun as it added too much weight to pack up a mountain to lay ambush on some bag guys.  The bag guys would be 100 + yards away.  If your not going to carry your handgun then your sure not going to carry a Tomahawk.  One tomahawk = forty rounds of ammo in one magazine.

One thing for sure if you did keep your Tomahawk in your hooch and they were coming over the wire it would be very useful in hand to hand fighting.

The Frontier Hawks were half the weight of the modern cousins.  All you carried was one heavy rifle, forty lead balls, powder in a powder horn, knife and the Hawk.  If you were very luck you would have a single shot pistol as well.  The total weight would be around 25 pounds wherein the SF and Seals will hump 60+ pounds.

The question is...how functional is the Hawk for what we are about to do?  Is carrying the Hawk worth leaving behind a sidearm or ammo?  How will my Hawk co-exist with my battle raddle?  One soldier carried his Hawk in Iraq till he fell and the Hawk went up under his vest and broke a rib.  So no hawks in general have never been issued to any military branch in modern times.

Reply by James Cole on May 20, 2013 at 1:15

Yah, I felt the same way about this guy's site, but thought you might be interested in reading it.  He was throwing around unit ids like he had some inside info, but I'm with you, never heard of a req for hawks.  A lot of urban ledgends get started over a couple of beers.

The right kukri.

Posted by Edwin Meijer on February 20, 2010 at 18:53

Since a long time I would like to add a kukri to my colection. Unfortunately it didn't come that far yet. I like knives for using, a decent shead and that don't break the bank. What would you advice me?

Reply by Warren L. Strout on February 22, 2010 at 14:23

Hi Edwin, The Kukri is a great knife. Khukuri House Thamel Pvt LTD makes a good kukri knife, and the prices are not bad. You can find them at - www.khukuriblades.com - take a look and see what you think. Good luck - "Lonewolf"

Reply by Tuomas Kemppainen on May 14, 2010 at 13:24

Hi Edvin and Warren, thanks for question and useful answer, nice Kukri site. I just ordered my first Kukri, a Dhankute wooden dragon. Tuomas

Reply by 3d1n6hhodsrz0 on November 30, 2010 at 22:51

This is the right kukri.

Reply by Chris Hillier on January 26, 2011 at 18:06

I think that might actually be the left kukri George!

Reply by Jeremi Lett on February 3, 2011 at 18:14

Cold Steel's generic kukri is a work horse!It is only about 20-25bucks and chops and cuts very well.I have used mine for big and small cutting chores.

KILLING BEAR WITH AN AXE

Posted by Trent Rock on November 20, 2009 at 1:10

KILLING BEAR WITH AN AXE
By S. C. Turnbo

In a few instances settlers have been know to slay bear with a chopping axe. We relate three stories of this kind In this chapter which was given me by early settlers.

James Helms, a native of Monroe County, Mo., and who came to Marion County, Ark., in 1870, told one of these accounts. He said that in 1872 John Clark, a nephew of the famed hunter Bill Clark, had been burning pine knots on head of Music Creek for tar. One day he visited the kiln to look after the tar and seen a black animal traveling across the ridge near the kiln. At first he thought it was a black muly cow which belonged to him and thought strange of her wandering from home so far. After due reflection however he concluded that it was not his cow but some kind of a wild animal. He had never seen a bear before this but from the descriptions he had heard of this animal he reached the conclusion that this one might be a bear. While he was trying to identify the beast it had passed almost out of rifle range and was going along at a moderate gait. However he aimed his gun at the disappearing animal and shot and inflicted a slight wound. After Clark had shot at the beast he observed two other black animals that were much less In size than the other one which he pronounced to be cub bears. Still he had some doubts that they were bear. These lasts were the size of big clogs and were following the old one some distance behind her. Clark reloaded his rifle and followed them and the two least animals hurried up and soon overtaken the larger one.. In a little while the foremost animal went very slow and the hunter soon got in rifle range again and shot at the big one but he aimed too high for the ball as he learned afterward pierced the tips of both ears. Some distance from the kiln was a thicket of dogwood bushes and the three animals went Into it. Here Clark left them and come to my house one half a mile from the thicket and requested me to go with him and help him kill a lot of bears or devils, he did not know which. He said they were the ugliest creatures that he ever saw. It was after sunset when the three beasts entered the thicket and it was growing dusky dark when Clark reached my house. I had no gun but I called my dogs and picking up the axe went on with the man. risen we had arrived near the thicket where Clark said the animals had went in it was dark and when we were in 50 yards of the edge of the thicket Clark stopped and said that no amount of money would induce him to go into that thicket of dogwood while them things were in there. My two dogs were trusty and not feeling much afraid I encouraged the dogs and they darted Into the thicket and I followed them. The dogs attacked the beasts at once and when I had advanced up near them I could discern their forms in the dark. The larger one was sitting on its haunches and the dogs were baying it. The bears were on a steep hillside. Directly the two smaller ones got up close to the bigger one and while the dogs were baying them I felt my way slowly and cautiously around above them and crept up in reach of the largest one whose back was toward me and hit her a hard blow on the head with the axe which stunned the beast and she reeled over, but as she fell she turned and struck at me with her paw and glanced my leg which came near tripping me over. When the bear fell she rose up again but before she could do me harm I gave the beast another blow on the head with the axe and knocked her down the second time. She rose partly up again but another hard stroke from the axe finished her life; while she was dying Clark called out., "Helms, is it dead." The dogs chased the cubs a short distance when they went up a leaning black oak tree and we cut the tree down but the young Brunos escaped in the darkness."

One day while I was conversing with Sam Carpenter of near Cedar Creek., Mo., he told me about killing a bear with an axe while the animal was in the act of entering a settlers hut. The man’s account of it ran about this way.

"Near the close of the Civil War while I was on a stream of water known as Big Creek which runs into Buffalo I stopped at a Mr. Archer’s for dinner. The family happened to have some bread and Archer had killed a bear and the family were faring well in comparison to others. After Mr. Archer’s wife had prepared the noon repast and we all had seated ourselves at the table except Mrs. Archer who was frying meat and we had just barely began eating when a bear walked into the woodyard. Mrs. Archer discovered it first and not knowing what It was exclaimed In alarm, "Look yonder." I and Archer supposing it was a squad of men approaching the Louse and that they were our enemies we made a dash for the door to escape. But not an enemy in human form was in sight but we were greatly astonished at seeing a bear coming toward the yard fence and our excitement was not diminished, yet we had much rather face a bear than look down the muzzles of guns in the hands of our enemies. Archer had neither dog nor gun. Neither had I at the time but this did not prevent us from stirring around hastily. The chopping axe happened to be in the house and I picked it up and took my position just on the inside of the door. Archer armed himself with anything he could lay hands on and stood ready for battle. Mrs. Archer was badly scared. The bear when It reached the yard fence climbed over into the yard and did not stop until it got to the door of the cabin. I saw that Bruin meant to come into the house and share our dinner with us without an invitation. As the beast reached the doorstep it placed its forepaws on the step to walk into the house. Though the bear did not look dangerous yet I felt my heart thump violently against my ribs. It was now that Archer and his wife were greatly excited as well as myself and the former dropped what he had in his hand to fight with and snatched up some other kind of weapon of defense to protect his domicile from the intrusion of his bearship. I waited until the animal put its head in the doorway when I dealt the beast a terrific blow on the head with the axe and sank the blade into the skull. The bear fell on the doorstep and after I had struck the animal a few more times on the head with the axe it died. It was of medium size but extremely thin in flesh and weak and being hungry it had approached the hut and scenting the oder of the frying meat had boldly attempted to enter the house to appease its appetite. ‘I Abbi Deakins, who years ago lived near Wiley’s Cave in Searcy County, Ark., gave the writer the following bear tale.

"There were two brothers lived in Wiley’s Cave of the name of Bratton whose given names were Jim and John. Mort Love owned a saw and grist mill at a fine spring of water near the head of Cedar Creek which flows into Long Creek. The latter stream of which empties into Little Rea River. Love’s farm was in the creek bottom below the mill. He usually planted all his land in corn. During one crop season after the corn had matured a bear invaded the field and his visits were so persistent that he ate and destroyed one third of the crop. Mr. Love was not a hunter and did not want to get In close touch with Bruin but he had a strong desire in wanting to rid the field of the bear before it got all of his corn crop. One day he offered a reward of 1000 feet of well seasoned first class lumber to any man who would slay that bear and he could keep the hide and meat as an extra inducement to kill the animal. Who ever killed It would not have Lo pay over to Love one half of Bruin for fattening off of Lovels corn. Jim Bratton told Love that it was a trade provided the latter would furnish a gun and ammunition to shoot his bearship with. In reply MR. Love informed Bratton that he could not comply with his request for he had no gun. The Bratton boys owned an excellent Remington pistol between them and they decided to use it by setting It just on the inside of the field where the bear was in the habit of climbing over the fence. It was after night when they had got all their arrangements completed and they went to Lovels house and retired to bed but they were unable to enjoy the sweet sleep of rest for they expected to hear the report of the pistol at any moment and lay awake to hear the discharge. Near 10 o’clock their hopes and expectations were realized by hearing the report of the pistol. They leaped out of bed, ‘but finding that the night seemed to grow more darker they declined to venture out until after daylight on the following morning when they went to the place where they had set the pistol and did not find a dead bear or a live one either. But the beast had been there and threw the triggers of the pistol and drops of blood on the weeds indicated that the shot gave it a wound. Tracks of the animal showed that it had left the spot at running speed and had went across the field to the north corner of the fence where it had climbed over to the outside leaving the rails stained with blood where it had got over the fence. The hunters had two half grown hounds with them which they put on the trail of the bear and followed it one mile and half were his bearship took shelter in a rough thicket of hickory saplings on the back side of a widow woman’s field. Here the pups bayed the bear but they did not venture close enough to take hold of it. The men went Into the thicket and shot the bear four times with the Remington which exhausted their ammunition. Seemingly the only effects the shots had on Bruin was to increase his anger. On perceiving this Jim Bratton told his brother to stay and watch the bear while he went to the widow woman’s house mentioned which was net more than 150 yards distant to borrow some ammunition but the woman had neither powder nor lead and before he had time to leave the house Jim heard one of the pups cry out in distress and pain and at the same time heard his brother yell out, "Run here, Jim, and be quick about it". As he started to run to the call of John he noticed an old axe lying In the woodyard that the family used in splitting up pine knots for kindling wood and without taking time to ask permission for the loan of the axe he grabbed it up and ran to relieve the pup for he knew the bear was going for it in a rough manner. When he got ‘Into the thicket where the bear and pups and his brother were he saw that Bruin had one foreleg of the pup in its mouth and crushing it with its teeth. Jim did not fool away time by standing a moment and listen at the howling of the suffering dog but rushed up to the bear with axe in hand and struck Bruin between the eyes with the blade of the axe and sank it Into the skull and spattered some of the bear’s brains on the ground. Jim did not stop at one blow but he kept dealing them on the bear’s head with the axe until the animals head was cut and beat into a jelly. John Bratton said that the bear made a rush for the pup and the latter retreated but had not went but a few yards before it become tangled in the brush and before it could get out the bear caught it. Though while the bear was not a large one It was very fat from eating Lovels corn. They removed its hide and dressed the meat and carried it home. Love paid the men the lumber as he had agreed to and the Bratton boys hauled it home," said Mr Deakins as he finished his story.

http://thelibrary.org/blogs/article.cfm?aid=203&lid=50

Silas Turnbo (1844-1925) was a sometime farmer and sometime newspaper proprietor who resided primarily near Pontiac, Missouri in Ozark County. He traveled extensively in the region and wrote down the stories and reminiscences of the region's pioneers.

Reply by Jeremi Lett on January 27, 2010 at 13:20

These stories are interesting.I did not care for the one where the mama bear was killed in front of her cubs.It seems that if one must take a bear down,the gun is first weapon choice.Nobody really wants to take on a beast that size with just an axe or a blade!Unless you have a death wish or are insane.I ran from a boxer male that was running at me with a very unhappy look.I ran into my house,grabbed a wooden sword and nunchakus,then went back out to face my agressor.I still didn't really want to get involved with the 75lb dog,but felt more prepared.The dog left after it saw I meant business.Theres little kids as my neighbors and I felt I was keeping the kids safe.I could not even imagine the fear a bear would manifest.I love animals but not when they are threatening.

Husqvarna

Posted by Jeff Lilja on October 5, 2009 at 23:26

Anyone out there have experience with the husqvarna hatchet? Picked up a Norlund Trapper a few weeks back, but would like to get either a bigger Norlund or maybe one of the Huskys. Lots of experience with thier chainsaws , none with thier axes etc.. Thank you-Jeff L.

Reply by Rino Smajo on January 17, 2010 at 7:56

Have one,some of axes are made by Wetterling for Husquarna,excellent value.

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