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I would like to get a discussion going on Damascus Steel. There is alot of damascus out there containing all kinds of elements good and bad. Some end up as quality knife steel while others fall short of the mark. A knife containing carbon steel and nickle, I would consider it a carbon steel damascus. If we have members of this group [and I know we must] that have knowledge of damascus steel and its properties, please join in this discussion and help us learn more about it. 

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Hi Robert,

Let me add to the bad elements, but I can do this 'cause I'm the groups token woodworker and don't know any better.  The picture below, (above?) is a set of knives I made from an old had saw and the schools plasma-arc-cutter, and dogwood handles--from a tree what fell down across the street.  But the Damascus part of it is the in the faux texture of the blade.  An old trick from antique reproduction.  You moisten a tissue paper in vinegar, wrinkle it up a little and put in on freshly steel-wooled steel -carbon / Damascus / otherwise, for a spell (overnight) Ala-kazam  --"Damascus" steel.

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Christ-on-a-crouton guys.  Calm yourselves!  I merely meant to offer a little perspective form a different field.  If you really want to do the Damascus steel thing, all you have to do is get in a time machinme and go back to 17th century Syria.  "Cause now-a-days, they don't know for sure how they did it back then.
Guys, I just want to learn more about damascus steel that is being used on knives these days. I know it's a complex subject but we still want to know more about it. That is sort of the thing, what makes good damascus and what makes bad? Lets knock it around and see what we can learn.

Bill,

The alakazam method seems a great way to force an artful patina, thanks for the idea.  I have a few old cheese knives I may try it on, they will look good on the table .

I am gonna take a look at those articles and the guy that says he has rediscovered "real" damascus.

 

Glad to be of some small help Jan.  And that guy do indeed make some pretty stuff.
actually damascus is a generic term its called wootz or pattern welded steel ,and then u have the pakistan steel that if you look at it long enough you can see it pulling apart from itself lol and also the alabama "damascus " that in my own opinion isnt much better than pakistan damascus ,ive never owned any knives with either of these lower quaility steel and never would ...

Don said:

that's a good one... Christ on a crouton
there is a guy bob Kramer that claims to have re-discovered that method, called wooter if I'm not mistaken. he makes kitchen knives, very pretty Damascus in the wooten style.http://www.kramerknives.com/.


Bill Harvey said:

Christ-on-a-crouton guys.  Calm yourselves!  I merely meant to offer a little perspective form a different field.  If you really want to do the Damascus steel thing, all you have to do is get in a time machinme and go back to 17th century Syria.  "Cause now-a-days, they don't know for sure how they did it back then.
James, I have heard good things about Alabama Damascus and I have seen some top makers using it. Please tell us more about it.

this is wootz, not damascus.. it is not same thing thant damascus pattern which consists of more than one steel.

sorry for big picture..

We can discuss wootz steel too. If you have some info please add it here.
Thanks James, that was very helpful.
damasteel very rarely has has any flaws ,pits etc,it is the ultimate in collectable knives ,devin thomas is good too ,you just gotta know quality
I have heard of damasteel, please tell us more about it, and maybe a picture if you can.

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