Comments - Razor sharpening . - iKnife Collector2024-03-28T19:15:45Zhttps://iknifecollector.com/profiles/comment/feed?attachedTo=3181080%3ABlogPost%3A1441197&xn_auth=noA bit of an update on my razo…tag:iknifecollector.com,2022-02-19:3181080:Comment:16956822022-02-19T17:04:04.733ZJohn Bamfordhttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/JohnBamford
<p>A bit of an update on my razor sharpening just in case anyone wishes to have a try.</p>
<p>First however a pic of the state that you can get into as a fanatic for sharpening.</p>
<p>The rather large amount of stones doesn't; signify any mastery probably the opposite, if I knew a lot I could manage to do the job with only a stone or two.</p>
<p>However this is the herd as things stand,…</p>
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<p>A bit of an update on my razor sharpening just in case anyone wishes to have a try.</p>
<p>First however a pic of the state that you can get into as a fanatic for sharpening.</p>
<p>The rather large amount of stones doesn't; signify any mastery probably the opposite, if I knew a lot I could manage to do the job with only a stone or two.</p>
<p>However this is the herd as things stand,</p>
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<p>Just received a parcel from Knives and Tools in Germany. A atoma 400 grit diamond plate, it feels very good quality but will have to see tomorrow. I bought it mostly for flattening water stones with and occasional use on badly damaged razors, however it feels like it would be very good for thinning the blades of kitchen knives</p>
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<p>Just received a parcel from Knives and Tools in Germany. A atoma 400 grit diamond plate, it feels very good quality but will have to see tomorrow. I bought it mostly for flattening water stones with and occasional use on badly damaged razors, however it feels like it would be very good for thinning the blades of kitchen knives</p>
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<p>The individual diamonds are flat on top and appear to be very evenly spaced as perhaps can be seen in the next picture <a href="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/3841837745?profile=original" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><img src="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/3841837745?profile=RESIZE_710x" class="align-full"/></a></p> This is me heading down the…tag:iknifecollector.com,2019-10-25:3181080:Comment:16100442019-10-25T19:08:49.610ZJohn Bamfordhttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/JohnBamford
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This is me heading down the sharpening rabbit hole along with all the other poor confused folk.
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This is me heading down the sharpening rabbit hole along with all the other poor confused folk. John,
I was going to ask that…tag:iknifecollector.com,2019-10-20:3181080:Comment:16090972019-10-20T21:55:36.651ZD alehttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/DaleDavenport
<p style="text-align: center;">John,</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">I was going to ask that earlier but was getting rather wordy. Specifically, one side of all my leather is finished smooth .. the other side is unfinished (suede-ish). I'll be going w/ the unfinished side up/outwards. </p>
<p style="text-align: center;">I was going to place a finished smooth side on one side of the paddle & then the rougher unfinished leather on the other side of the paddle. I'll now be placing the…</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">John,</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">I was going to ask that earlier but was getting rather wordy. Specifically, one side of all my leather is finished smooth .. the other side is unfinished (suede-ish). I'll be going w/ the unfinished side up/outwards. </p>
<p style="text-align: center;">I was going to place a finished smooth side on one side of the paddle & then the rougher unfinished leather on the other side of the paddle. I'll now be placing the rougher suede-ish side facing outward on both sides of the paddle. </p>
<p style="text-align: center;">... Thank you ...</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">Also, the vast majority of my slipjoints have blades less than 3 inches of cutting edge. However, I do sharpen a few hunting knives for my brothers. I'll likely be choosing a width of 3" for the leather pieces on the paddle. And, somewhere between 12 ~ 15 inches long .. depending on what I have readily in my wood scrap pile.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">Thanks again ..&.. best of everything with the household repairs !</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">DD</p> Dale, there are two other poi…tag:iknifecollector.com,2019-10-20:3181080:Comment:16091862019-10-20T20:53:48.582ZJohn Bamfordhttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/JohnBamford
<p>Dale, there are two other points that come to mind. You probably are aware of these points but I will spell it out in case anyone else could benefit.</p>
<p>For applying abrasive paste a suede-like finish works best rather than a smooth finish like say a saddle leather.</p>
<p>You can sand down most leather to get the finish you want but saddle leather and other oil-tanned leathers don't seem to work as well, the abrasive won't hold to the leather in use.</p>
<p>Then abrasive pastes come in…</p>
<p>Dale, there are two other points that come to mind. You probably are aware of these points but I will spell it out in case anyone else could benefit.</p>
<p>For applying abrasive paste a suede-like finish works best rather than a smooth finish like say a saddle leather.</p>
<p>You can sand down most leather to get the finish you want but saddle leather and other oil-tanned leathers don't seem to work as well, the abrasive won't hold to the leather in use.</p>
<p>Then abrasive pastes come in either an oil-based or water-based type. Personally I prefer the water-based type for two reasons. One is because it is easy to thin the paste down if needed, just add a little water also when the strop becomes heavily stained with black oxide from the steel then it can be cleaned with a damp rag and more abrasive applied. Not too difficult to overcome with the oily type, lighter fluid on a rag works well but water is easier for me.</p> !! . Thanks, John . !!tag:iknifecollector.com,2019-10-20:3181080:Comment:16090932019-10-20T20:01:38.648ZD alehttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/DaleDavenport
<p style="text-align: center;">!! . Thanks, John . !!</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">!! . Thanks, John . !!</p> The strop in the picture is 3…tag:iknifecollector.com,2019-10-20:3181080:Comment:16092452019-10-20T18:59:02.759ZJohn Bamfordhttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/JohnBamford
<p>The strop in the picture is 3 inches by 15 inches not including the handle Dale.</p>
<p>The width is to accommodate a razor whose blade length is approx 3inches. The idea with that is to fit the whole edge on the strop to work the whole edge at the same time, the problem was that the leather wasn't totally flat so not all the edge was touching at the same time. You can work around that I guess but I bought one recently to check the flatness of a strop designed purely for razors. I haven't…</p>
<p>The strop in the picture is 3 inches by 15 inches not including the handle Dale.</p>
<p>The width is to accommodate a razor whose blade length is approx 3inches. The idea with that is to fit the whole edge on the strop to work the whole edge at the same time, the problem was that the leather wasn't totally flat so not all the edge was touching at the same time. You can work around that I guess but I bought one recently to check the flatness of a strop designed purely for razors. I haven't come to any firm conclusions yet as the house is totally disrupted with building works and I am finding it hard to concentrate on sharpening just now.</p>
<p>The only advantages that I can think of is a matter of convenience, ie is the thing just too long for where you wish to work. In general, though I like a longer strop.</p>
<p>I sourced the leather on that strop from a merchant on eBay and he supplies leather in a variety of widths from around 1.5/3.00 inches on a strip around 50 inches in length. I bought a length or two to make hanging strops for razors and they work just fine for either paddle or hanging strops..I have leather on both sides though I guess that isn't really essential. I made the cover to stop from getting grit on the strop which again isn't really necessary for knives but is better for a fine edge like a razor.</p> Note: I have plenty of leathe…tag:iknifecollector.com,2019-10-20:3181080:Comment:16090912019-10-20T18:31:29.753ZD alehttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/DaleDavenport
<p>Note: I have plenty of leather to work with. i.e. no size restrictions. </p>
<p>Note: I have plenty of leather to work with. i.e. no size restrictions. </p> John,
Thanks for the quick re…tag:iknifecollector.com,2019-10-20:3181080:Comment:16092442019-10-20T18:28:59.947ZD alehttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/DaleDavenport
<p style="text-align: center;">John,</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">Thanks for the quick response.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">A couple more quick questions ..... what width & length of the leather surface area do you use ? I googled "paddle strops" & quickly found sizes from 8" X 2" ..up to.. 12" X 3" , (20.3 X 5.1 cm ..up to .. 30.5 X 7.6 cm). I'm thinking somewhere along the middle of the road ... 10" X 2.5" , (25.4 X 6.4 cm). Are there advantages / disadvantages of the…</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">John,</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">Thanks for the quick response.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">A couple more quick questions ..... what width & length of the leather surface area do you use ? I googled "paddle strops" & quickly found sizes from 8" X 2" ..up to.. 12" X 3" , (20.3 X 5.1 cm ..up to .. 30.5 X 7.6 cm). I'm thinking somewhere along the middle of the road ... 10" X 2.5" , (25.4 X 6.4 cm). Are there advantages / disadvantages of the different dimensions ?</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">What length & width did you use ?</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">DD</p> Hi Dale, I have made a whole…tag:iknifecollector.com,2019-10-20:3181080:Comment:16092422019-10-20T17:07:51.256ZJohn Bamfordhttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/JohnBamford
<p>Hi Dale, I have made a whole stack of paddle strops for knives and I find that they work really well.</p>
<p>I have used leather that I have bought around 2.5/3.5 mm if I remember correctly.</p>
<p>The quality of the leather seems to make little difference, at least as far as knives are concerned.</p>
<p>Once again for knives then I would be quite happy with a normal metal polish the sort you get in a tube, I am sure the names would differ on each side of the Atlantic. If I was to choose a…</p>
<p>Hi Dale, I have made a whole stack of paddle strops for knives and I find that they work really well.</p>
<p>I have used leather that I have bought around 2.5/3.5 mm if I remember correctly.</p>
<p>The quality of the leather seems to make little difference, at least as far as knives are concerned.</p>
<p>Once again for knives then I would be quite happy with a normal metal polish the sort you get in a tube, I am sure the names would differ on each side of the Atlantic. If I was to choose a diamond paste then I would look at 10 microns as any extra sharpness that you would get from finer grits would be wasted unless you were using a knife for some specific use. I like to be able to strop from a dull edge and recover an edge which is easier to do with coarser grits. I am using the strop below for my knives in the house at present, I have at least two more in the shed for whittling. </p>
<p>This strop was made for razors and I made a cover for it from papier-mache I had 2 micron on one side and 2.5 on the other side, too fine for knives as far as I am concerned so the dark part you can see is 6 micron which is a little better. The leather is glued on with PVA glue which I like because it will come off if wetted.</p>
<p>One reason that it proved less than perfect for razors is that the leather isn't quite as flat as I would like. If I was to make another then I would grind the leather flat by rubbing it on sandpaper on a flat surface after it was glued in place. I don't know if the leather is at fault or the flatness of the wooden base or if it was an error in the glueing that caused the unevenness. Whatever it was it doesnt trouble me for stropping knives.</p>
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