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Comment by Jan Carter on November 22, 2014 at 15:59

wooohoo!  My retirement knife!

Comment by Jan Carter on November 19, 2014 at 16:30

should be here tomorrow!

Comment by Jan Carter on November 16, 2014 at 19:34

I had to have one of the new Schatt & Morgan Barlows!!!

Comment by Dan Lago on November 10, 2014 at 20:17

 I agree that this is a confusing knife, but I have no doubt Fred has it correct. The tang stamp bothers me too.  I think the implication is "Whatever the customer wants" in a special order... So the old tang stamp was put on a newer19 spey blade. 

I keep thinking --" they used an older blade", but probably not - they just put on the tang stamp the customer picked.  Certainly we see that in older stamps being used on special edition knives - like Queen city stamps. 

It also makes me think in using published Queen tang stamp guides, that they might apply accurately to catalog knives primarily  - not so much to special order knives.. 

Comment by Howard P Reynolds on November 10, 2014 at 11:07

Guys,

I am not a Queen historian, but am trying to understand Dave's knife.

1. The spey blade is stamped "stainless" which Queen used in the 1940s and discontinued the "stainless" stamping in 1950.

2. The #19 Trapper pattern was not introduced until 1958, and Dave's knife, while using the #19 pattern, has only one blade (spey blade).  I get that this knife is an SFO - probably from that CA farmer.

3. I get that Delrin, for Queen knives, or the #19 Trapper, didn't appear until later than 1958.

4. Not disputing that Dave's knife was made much later - possibly the '90s, but can't figure out why the blade would have a tang stamp of "stainless" if that stamping ended in 1950, in favor of calling it "Queen Steel" (same steel, different name)?  Old blade, "new" knife?  Or, did Queen go back to the "stainless" tang stamp in the '90s.

Comment by Dave Steiner on November 9, 2014 at 16:10

Thanks Fred!  1990s is much later than I thought but that's ok, it's still a cool knife and now includes an interesting story.

-ds

Comment by Frederick Fisher on November 9, 2014 at 12:52

Dave, hope I can clear up some things.  First of all the only thing on that knife pre 1958 is the tang stamp.  The blade or any part of the knife is post 1958 and made today.  Previously they only had pattern No 24 which is a light weight trapper.  The first 19s were offered in both winterbottom and amber handles with satin finish (rare0 or typical Queen polish finish. This being a contract knife which Queen releases no information on as to production or anything else, the customer selects from a menu of options as to how they want the knife made and yes this is a spay blade design for castration but the customer selects what they want.  It is my understanding they picked the spay blade so people in altercatations would not hurt or stab one another.  No part of the no 19 was made during the stainless era so it wasn't possible to put a new blade in a knife because the knife wasn't made during that era.  Again, the No 19 pattern was started in 1958 in bone and amber and then later in delrin and today made in many different handle materials  My friend told me the truck farmer from California came to him and ordered 300 knives at a time.  This was in the 1990s.    

Comment by Dave Steiner on November 9, 2014 at 11:50

Wow, thanks Dan and Fred!  I had based my date on something someone has posted on Queen tang stamps.   That stamp was dated c1946-50.  But I have found another one that states c1952-55, which I assume is more correct?  Hard to learn when your references don't match! ;-)

Fred, someday I'll learn to read a knife like that. Great info and read. Did think it was odd to only have the Spey blade.  But I'm not clear... is the blade an older blade, i.e. pre-1958? Or was the stamp used after the stated date of 1955?  Or?

Do you have an approx date for those contract knives?

Any suggestions on a reference to at least know about the No19 pattern and when it was made?

Again, thanks so much everyone!  I have a long, long way to go but I love learning about this history.

-ds

Comment by Dan Lago on November 9, 2014 at 8:50

YEAH!  Thank you Fred for definitive comment!   Your 40+ years of collecting and detailed knowledge of earlier knives through personal contact with both makers and sellers is just what we need.  .

OK, so it was for vegetables, not castration....

And Delrin was not used in early 50s.

And?  Queen saved and used older blades in special orders?

Thanks,

Dan 

Comment by Jean-François on November 9, 2014 at 7:44

Very impressive! Thanks a lot to you, Dan and Frederick!

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