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Featured Comment by Charles Sample on June 1, 2016 at 17:36

Did some shooting today including my two Ruger Blackhawks (.45 and 10 mm), my Marlin Golden 39A Mountie (.22), my Ruger LCP (.380), my SKS (7.62x39) and my Ruger P89 (9 mm).

I also put some rounds through this (.38-40).

Comment by allanm on April 5, 2016 at 17:10

Flip side - I have a friend who was a career army / airborne ranger / special forces guy and he dislikes Glock. I think just in principle. He's a Sig guy. He loaned me his Sig 9mm one day to try, I didn't like it at all. It shoots fine, it's nice and sturdy all steel, but I found his trigger a little heavy and that model is a single / double so the first round I had to pull the hammer back manually.

To each his own. I also built an AR-15 maybe 2 years ago now, but while half the world seems to want a carbine length barrel, I wanted the longest I could get, and heaviest. I found an upper kit in 7.62x39, 20" barrel and put that onto a Spike's Tactical multi caliber stripped lower. That makes it deer legal since 7.62 is bigger than .23 the minimum caliber i Virginia and I think many other states.

Some guys want 5.56 / .223 because it is a little lighter and flatter trajectory. I like 123 grains of lead more than 55 grains. Some people argue with me when I see them with a rifle marked .223 Win and want to tell me it's 5.56. Not if it says .223 Win ... pressures are not the same.

Comment by allanm on April 5, 2016 at 17:02

I saw the article about the Seals also Ken, I think it's a good endorsement. Somebody at work has a lock 17 and told me his mags will go in fine and give an extra 2 rounds. I took one to try, just for curiosity - thought I did expect that to be ttrue - and he's right. It sticks out an extra 1/2" or so. I would rather have 2 spare 15 round mags on my left side than one 17, or one 17 in and one spare 17.

I agree with Charles too, basically what I said initially - I would not want to try a second shot on a misfire. I'd be racking and loading a new round. But I'd also be shocked if my Hornady XTPs ever failed. I'll use other brands in FMJ for practice, and a few Hornady's occasionally, but never an FMJ for every day carry, and not many XTPs for practice because of cost.

Comment by Ken Spielvogel on April 5, 2016 at 10:00

Allanm, I very much enjoyed reading your post. I also have a Glock 19 and love it. I read where the Navy Seals just adopted it as their official sidearm. That 43 is a sweet shooting pistol and perfect for your wife. I was going to get one, but they were sold out, so I bought a Glock 26, with that I can also use the Glock 19 mags as back up. I just purchased a new Glock 30S .45, in that I can also use the Glock 21 mags for back up. I am going to take that one up to Alaska fishing. 

I hate it that so many Glocks ended up in the black market. That seems to be what happens when we arm the middle east. Austria should have known better. I like Austria however, and their quality is excellent, esp. in the Glocks.

Thanks for the comments.

Comment by Ken Spielvogel on April 5, 2016 at 9:53

Clint, that Glock 17 is a great gun. I rented one at Gunsite Academy in Arizona and I loved it, extremely accurate.

Comment by Clint Thompson on April 5, 2016 at 9:21

I have a Glock 17...just for the purpose of traveling around camping in our travel trailer. The Glock and four extra mags gives me all the ammo I would need. I have carried this Glock on duty for about a year. I have qualified with a 100% score with this Glock. We had Glocks in Iraq (I was an International Police Adviser) but were issued Beretta 92F. Some of the guys acquired the Glocks from those Iraqi Police Officers who were issued them by us then turned them on us. They didn't need them after that so a few of the American officers had those to carry. Me, I carried what I was issued and how it was issued. I am a 1911 .45acp EDC. American made and proud of it.

A note of interest. The USA gave 140,000 Glock 19 to the Iraqi police. I have seen 10,000 in one spot. Not long after the issuing of the Glocks to the Iraqi police we started finding them in the "Black" markets in Kurdistan.

Featured Comment by Charles Sample on April 4, 2016 at 21:51

allanm

"And if you anyone ever really needs a "restrike" - I probably would not really want to depend on shooting a misfired round a second time which I have also never heard of and think is extremely unlikely, but you could do it if you really wanted to without fully racking the slide. You can pull the slide about 1/4" back, the round does not eject,but the striker resets."

If I had a Glock and if I had a misfire, before I would try to just rack the slide a 1/4", I would go ahead and rack it all the way.  It would probably be just about as quick and you would have a fresh round in the chamber.

My 9 mm and my .45 are both hammer fired Rugers and both DA/SA.  If it were a defense situation and I was double tapping, I would probably already have the trigger pulled the second time by the time it registered on me that the first try was a misfire.  Obviously by then I would rack the slide to chamber a new round if the restrike didn't fire it.

Comment by allanm on April 4, 2016 at 21:21

I carry a Glock 19 Ken, 3rd generation, 15 + 1, and when I'm working where I need to carry it, it's in a Blackhawk Serpa level 2 retention, with 2 spare mags in a Blackhawk mag carrier on the left side. Loaded up with 9mm Hornady XTPs, and I hope not to ever have to use it for it's primary intended purpose. :-)

Yes, I like it, really like it. As somebody at work once said, it eats everything I feed it, no jacking around with not liking some ammo brands. This is my first Glock, I've had a few different CZ models previously. At this point I would be unlikely to buy anything different.

My Glock performed a mercy shot on an 8 point buck I spine shot with a muzzle loader in November last year that dropped where he stood 15 - 20 yards from me. I was out of the tree stand and up to that buck in less than a minute, barely aimed at the vitals area and it was over literally in seconds.

My wife likes my Glock 19 enough when I was looking for something a little smaller for her but still in 9mm, I wanted to take her to try different makes including Springfield for grip. She said no, she wanted a Glock, so I got her a 43. A bit small for my hands even with a pinky extender, and I'm not big but I can still use it well enough. She actually shoots my 19 better than her 43. Some people say they don't like a smaller pistol like the 43 because it is too "snappy". Try a good grip, small as it is, recoil is minimal. Caliber, model, physical size are 

Both of ours were made in Austria, but for what it's worth, not all Glocks are made in Austria - Smyrna is a fully functional factory.

Glock factory tour article

I think the reason we may not see many made in US Glocks is that I had read one of the conditions for government contracts was made in the US, so a US branch / factory opened, and that likely feeds government contracts while Austria supplies ordinary consumers like us. I have no problem with that. Made in CHina knives is far less desirable to me than made in US, or Austria. :-)

And if you anyone ever really needs a "restrike" - I probably would not really want to depend on shooting a misfired round a second time which I have also never heard of and think is extremely unlikely, but you could do it if you really wanted to without fully racking the slide. You can pull the slide about 1/4" back, the round does not eject,but the striker resets. I really would not want to do that either, I like the slide flying forward putting the round fully into battery under it's own spring pressure without and help from my hands. I find that's one thing I have to keep telling new shooters, don't ever try to "help" that pistol / rifle by letting it forward under human control. Pull the slide or charging handle back, let it go and let it do what it was designed to do with the spring.

Comment by Jan Carter on April 4, 2016 at 20:39

Charles,

I am of the opinion that I can 'splain the bullet hole LOL

Featured Comment by Charles Sample on March 2, 2016 at 15:52

"Gun control: The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her panty hose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound." — L. Neil Smith

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