All Discussions Tagged 'and' - iKnife Collector2024-03-29T12:06:21Zhttps://iknifecollector.com/forum/topic/listForTag?tag=and&feed=yes&xn_auth=noNeed Knife Infotag:iknifecollector.com,2024-01-05:3181080:Topic:17234012024-01-05T01:06:24.391ZR. Curtinhttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/RCurtin
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<p>Not getting the chat tonight.</p>
<p>Not getting the chat tonight.</p> Brutal and strange quenching?tag:iknifecollector.com,2017-07-20:3181080:Topic:14917372017-07-20T16:51:16.229ZJan Carterhttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/JanCarter
<p>Although this is an older article, I still find it fascinating that in looking for the secret to Damascus many old methods of quenching came to light and some of them are just brutal!</p>
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<h1 class="articleHeadline">THE MYSTERY OF DAMASCUS STEEL APPEARS SOLVED</h1>
<h6 class="byline"><span>By WALTER SULLIVAN</span></h6>
<h6 class="dateline">Published: September 29, 1981</h6>
<h6 class="dateline">TWO metallurgists at Stanford University, seeking to produce a ''superplastic'' metal,…</h6>
<p>Although this is an older article, I still find it fascinating that in looking for the secret to Damascus many old methods of quenching came to light and some of them are just brutal!</p>
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<h1 class="articleHeadline">THE MYSTERY OF DAMASCUS STEEL APPEARS SOLVED</h1>
<h6 class="byline"><span>By WALTER SULLIVAN</span></h6>
<h6 class="dateline">Published: September 29, 1981</h6>
<h6 class="dateline">TWO metallurgists at Stanford University, seeking to produce a ''superplastic'' metal, appear to have stumbled on the secret of Damascus steel, the legendary material used by numerous warriors of the past, including the Crusaders. Its formula had been lost for generations.</h6>
<div class="articleBody"><p>Analyses of steel by Jeffrey Wadsworth and Oleg D. Sherby, in their search for a highly plastic form, revealed properties almost identical to those they then found in Damascus steel, though their own plastic steel had been produced through contemporary methods.</p>
<p>The remarkable characteristics of Damascus steel became known to Europe when the Crusaders reached the Middle East, beginning in the 11th century. They discovered that swords of this metal could split a feather in midair, yet retain their edge through many a battle with the Saracens. The swords were easily recognized by a characteristic watery or ''damask'' pattern on their blades.</p>
<p>Through the ages - perhaps from the time of Alexander the Great in the fourth century B.C. -the armorers who made swords, shields and armor from such steel were rigidly secretive regarding their method. With the advent of firearms, the secret was lost and never fully rediscovered, despite the efforts of men like P.@P. Anossoff, the Russian metallurgist, who knew the steel as bulat.</p>
<p>In 1841 Anossoff declared: ''Our warriors will soon be armed with bulat blades, our agricultural laborers will till the soil with bulat plow shares. ... Bulat will supersede all steel now employed for the manufacture of articles of special sharpness and endurance.'' Yet his lifelong efforts to fulfill that dream were in vain.</p>
<p>Dr. Wadsworth and Dr. Sherby realized that they might be on the track of the method when a sword fancier, at one of their presentations, pointed out that Damascus steel, like their own product, was very rich in carbon. This led them to conduct comparative analyses of their steels and those of the ancient weapons.</p>
<p>Dr. Wadsworth, while still associated with Stanford, now works at the nearby Lockheed Palo Alto Research Laboratory. Dr. Sherby, a professor at Stanford, is an authority on deformable metals.</p>
<p>When moderately heated, superplastic steel can be shaped into such complex forms as gears for an automobile, with minimal need for machining, leading to major economies in manufacture. Their research, Dr. Wadsworth said recently, has shown how to make steel even more amenable to shaping than the Damascus variety.</p>
<p>A basic requirement, as suspected by a number of early metallurgists, is a very high carbon content. Dr. Wadsworth and Dr. Sherby believe it has to be from 1 to 2 percent, compared to only a fraction of 1 percent in ordinary steel. Another key element in Damascus blade produ ction seems to have beenforging and hammering at relatively low tempe rature - about 1,700 degrees Fahrenheit. After shaping, the blades were apparently reheated to about the same temperature, then rapidly cooled, as by quenching in a fluid. Quenching in 'Dragon Blood'</p>
<p>The secrets of Damascus steel were shared by armorers in many parts of the ancient world, notably in Persia, where some of the finest specimens were produced. It was in the quenching that many believed it acquired magical properties. According to Dr. Helmut Nickel, curator of the Arms and Armor Division of the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York, legend had it that the best blades were quenched in ''dragon blood.''</p>
<p>In a recent letter to the museum a Pakistani told of a sword held in his family for many generations, quenched by its Afghan makers in donkey urine. Some medieval smiths recommended the urine of redheaded boys or that from a ''three-year-old goat fed only ferns for three days.''</p>
<p>For eight centuries the Arab sword makers succeeded in concealing their techniques from competitors -and from posterity. Those in Europe only revealed that they quenched in ''red medicine'' or ''green medicine.'' A less abrupt form of cooling, according to one account, was achieved when the blade, still red hot, was ''carried ina furious gal lop by a horseman on a fast horse.''</p>
<p>Writings found in Asia Minor said that to temper a Damascus sword the blade must be heated until it glows ''like the sun rising in the desert.'' It then should be cooled to the color of royal purple and plunged ''into the body of a muscular slave'' so that his strength would be transferred to the sword.</p>
<p>In the ancient accounts there is more than one reference to such homicidal quenching. In a recent interview, Dr. Nickel pointed out that while many of the quenching techniques were based on superstition, they may have contributed to the success of the process, as by adding nitrogen to the alloy.</p>
<p>Most, if not all, Damascus steel was derived from blocks of ''wootz,'' a form of steel produced in India. A mystery, to those seeking to recapture the technique, was the property of wootz that produced such blades - malleable when heated, yet extraordinarily tough when cooled. The Structure of Wootz</p>
<p>According to Dr. Wadsworth and Dr. Sherby, before doing his historic work on magnetism, Michael Faraday, himself the son of a blacksmith, sought with J. Stodart, a cutler, to determine the composition of wootz. They incorrectly concluded that the key factor was its silica and aluminum content.</p>
<p>Reports of their findings, published in 1820 and 1822, led Jean Robert Breant, Inspector of Assays at the Paris Mint, to conduct in a six-week period over 300 experiments seeking to reproduce the properties of wootz.</p>
<p>He tried adding to ordinary steel such elements as platinum, gold, silver, copper, tin, zinc, lead, bismuth, manganese, uranium, arsenic and boron. Anossoff even tried diamond. None of the efforts succeeded.</p>
<p>Wootz, it now appears, was apparently prepared in crucibles containing cakes of porous iron plus wood or charcoal to enrich it in carbon. A critical factor, Dr. Wadsworth said, appears to have been that the wootz was processed at temperatures as high as 2,300 degrees. After being held there for days, it was cooled to room temperature over a day or so. It was then shipped to the Middle East for relatively low-temperature fabrication.</p>
<p>This moderate heat preserved enough carbide (in which three atoms of iron are mated to one of carbon) to give the blades great strength, yet not enough to make them brittle. The large carbide grains gave the blades their typical watery pattern.</p>
<p>The superplastic steel developed at Stanford is kept at high temperature for only a few hours. It is shaped during cooling, reheated to moderate temperature for further working and may then be quenched to achieve extreme hardness. This process, Dr. Wadsworth said, produces very small carbide grains and hence even greater hardness and ductility than in Damascus steel.</p>
<p>According to Dr. Nickel, once blades of Damascus steel had been rough-shaped by hammering, they were ground to a fine edge. When they were hammered chiefly on one side, a curved shape resulted - the origin of the sabre, he said.</p>
<p>The finest blades ever made, he added, were the Samurai swords of Japan, whose blades may contain a million layers of steel. The layers resulted from hammering out a bar to double its original length, then folding it over as many as 32 times.</p>
<p>The multiple layers used by the Japanese and by makers of the Malay dagger or kris are sometimes referr ed to as ' 'welded Damascus steel.'' Although the production method diffe rs from that of true Damascus steel, the blades may show a very si milar pattern.</p>
<p>Dr. Wadsworth said a number of knife-making societies, such as The Anvil's Ring, which has 1,500 members, have sought to learn details of the Stanford findings. The research is described in Volume 25 of Progress in Materials Science, a British publication.</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/1981/09/29/science/the-mystery-of-damascus-steel-appears-solved.html" target="_blank">The original article is here</a></p>
</div> Bear and Son Boy Scout Knife, 5 "blade"tag:iknifecollector.com,2017-06-28:3181080:Topic:14884242017-06-28T21:43:56.805ZDave Cardillohttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/DaveCardillo
<p>There is a boy scout knife being sold on Ebay, which is a handsome piece.</p>
<p>It looks like this:</p>
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<p>I claim no knife expertise, but I couldn't find this anywhere, and this week I've looked at scout knives until I turned blue. Any comments?</p>
<p><img src="http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/MZkAAOSwXeJYNEpk/s-l1600.jpg"/></p>
<p>There is a boy scout knife being sold on Ebay, which is a handsome piece.</p>
<p>It looks like this:</p>
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<p>I claim no knife expertise, but I couldn't find this anywhere, and this week I've looked at scout knives until I turned blue. Any comments?</p>
<p><img src="http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/MZkAAOSwXeJYNEpk/s-l1600.jpg"/></p> iKC sponsors and members at Blade - be sure to stop and say HItag:iknifecollector.com,2017-05-22:3181080:Topic:14833432017-05-22T01:54:12.553ZJan Carterhttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/JanCarter
<p>I like to try to get all of these in one place in case you need them. If your going, wont you please stop by, say Hi and thank them for helping us to keep the lights on here at iKC.</p>
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<table border="0" cellspacing="0" width="702">
<colgroup><col width="702"></col></colgroup><tbody><tr><td height="20" width="702">Bruce Voyles Booth 703</td>
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<tr><td height="20">Colonial Knives Booth…</td>
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<p>I like to try to get all of these in one place in case you need them. If your going, wont you please stop by, say Hi and thank them for helping us to keep the lights on here at iKC.</p>
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<table border="0" cellspacing="0" width="702">
<colgroup><col width="702"></col></colgroup><tbody><tr><td height="20" width="702">Bruce Voyles Booth 703</td>
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<tr><td height="20">Colonial Knives Booth 1138</td>
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<tr><td height="20">Fiddleback Forge Table 4E</td>
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<tr><td height="20">JSR Sports</td>
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<tr><td height="20">Knife Mag Table 22M</td>
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<tr><td height="20">Lees cutlery</td>
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<tr><td height="20">Maher & Grosh</td>
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<tr><td height="20">Premium knives Booth 19 & 20</td>
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<tr><td height="20">Queen Cutlery Booth 82</td>
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<tr><td height="20"><p>Reed Cutlery/Cougar Creek Knives</p>
<p>WhiteRiver knives Booth 32</p>
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<tr><td height="20"><p>White River Firecraft Table 28S </p>
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<p>Members & Friends of iKC</p>
<p>AG RUSSELL Booth 102</p>
<p>Alabama Damascus Booth 712</p>
<p>Blueridge Knives Table 1T</p>
<p>Tony Bose Table 1H</p>
<p>Dan Fitzgerald Table 25W</p>
<p>Battle Horse Knives Booth 206</p>
<p>Greg Dash Table 8E</p>
<p>GEC Booth 403 </p>
<p>John Lloyd Table 91</p>
<p>Tim "Chops" Lambkin Table 17K</p>
<p>PLOPPERT CUSTOM KNIVES Table 13D</p>
<p>RECHSTEINER, CARL E. Table 5J</p>
<p>Jim Sargent Table 3W</p>
<p>Scott Davidson Table 4M</p>
<p>Sharper Deal Table 18V</p>
<p>WA Surls Knives Table 4F </p>
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</table> Personal opinion? This is NOT a good knife ideatag:iknifecollector.com,2017-05-17:3181080:Topic:14823912017-05-17T16:41:44.601ZJan Carterhttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/JanCarter
<h1 class="article-title">This Throwing Knife Doubles as a Marijuana Pipe</h1>
<h2 class="p1"><span class="s1">What Is It?</span></h2>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1">A large one-piece, fixed-blade “survival” knife that has various grooves, holes, edges, and protrusions designed to perform other functions. Of those, really only the knife blade, bottle opener, fork, and obviously the pipe are worthwhile. You’ll find wrenches, nail pullers, range finders and inclinometer/sundial/latitude hashings…</span></p>
<h1 class="article-title">This Throwing Knife Doubles as a Marijuana Pipe</h1>
<h2 class="p1"><span class="s1">What Is It?</span></h2>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1">A large one-piece, fixed-blade “survival” knife that has various grooves, holes, edges, and protrusions designed to perform other functions. Of those, really only the knife blade, bottle opener, fork, and obviously the pipe are worthwhile. You’ll find wrenches, nail pullers, range finders and inclinometer/sundial/latitude hashings on other faux-survival stuff, and I’m sure they work, but they’re a bigger pain in the ass than they’re worth. </span></p>
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<div class="pin-hover"><span class="pinit"><a target="_blank" href="https://www.pinterest.com/pin/create/button/?url=https://www.outsideonline.com/2087606/throwing-knife-doubles-marijuana-pipe&media=https://www.outsideonline.com/sites/default/files/styles/three-quarter-page-scaled-1x/public/knipper-hold.jpg?itok=qXWMkt2d&description=We%20spent%20the%20entire%20weekend%20trying%20to%20throw%20the%20Kniper%20like%20a%20traditional%20throwing%20knife,%20when%20you%27re%20actually%20supposed%20to%20throw%20it%20like%20a%20spear.%20It%20does%20work%20better%20when%20thrown%20as%20prescribed."></a></span><img class=" lazyloaded" src="https://www.outsideonline.com/sites/default/files/styles/three-quarter-page-scaled-1x/public/knipper-hold.jpg?itok=qXWMkt2d" alt="knipper-hold"/>We spent the entire weekend trying to throw the Kniper like a traditional throwing knife, when you're actually supposed to throw it like a spear. It does work better when thrown as prescribed. <span>Photo:</span> Wes Siler</div>
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<h2 class="p1"><span class="s1">Who’s It For?</span></h2>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1">People who like to have fun doing silly stuff when they’re outdoors. I don’t think anyone really takes this thing seriously, but it can actually perform the work of a real knife, especially if you go ahead and wrap the handle in paracord to provide a comfortable, secure grip. So it’d be a fun gift for someone who’s safety you don’t worry about too much or a fun toy you can drag along on a camping trip. </span></p>
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<div class="pin-hover"><span class="pinit"><a target="_blank" href="https://www.pinterest.com/pin/create/button/?url=https://www.outsideonline.com/2087606/throwing-knife-doubles-marijuana-pipe&media=https://www.outsideonline.com/sites/default/files/styles/three-quarter-page-scaled-1x/public/knipper-hit.jpg?itok=AdyU5dDd&description=In%20fact,%20it%20was%20only%20after%20smoking%20marijuana%20from%20the%20Kniper%27s%20pipe%20that%20we%20were%20able%20to%20score%20a%20solid%20point-first%20hit.%20Perhaps%20that%27s%20the%20secret%20to%20proper%20throwing%20knife%20form?"></a></span><img class=" lazyloaded" src="https://www.outsideonline.com/sites/default/files/styles/three-quarter-page-scaled-1x/public/knipper-hit.jpg?itok=AdyU5dDd" alt="knipper-hit"/>In fact, it was only after smoking marijuana from the Kniper's pipe that we were able to score a solid point-first hit. Perhaps that's the secret to proper throwing knife form? <span>Photo:</span> Wes Siler</div>
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<h2 class="p1"><span class="s1">Design</span></h2>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1">It’s acid green, it’s covered in random “functions” that don’t work terribly well, and it’s designed to both be thrown and get you high, so obviously it’s a) ridiculous, and b) dangerous. But I think that’s a big part of the point. Reid Evans, its designer, didn’t make it to be a serious outdoors tool. He designed it to recapture the spirit of fun he used to have on camping trips with his dad. Not every outdoor product needs to be super serious all the time. </span></p>
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<div class="pin-hover"><span class="pinit"><a target="_blank" href="https://www.pinterest.com/pin/create/button/?url=https://www.outsideonline.com/2087606/throwing-knife-doubles-marijuana-pipe&media=https://www.outsideonline.com/sites/default/files/styles/three-quarter-page-scaled-1x/public/knipper-features.jpg?itok=bw3gYhnz&description=The%20Kniper%27s%2022%20functions."></a></span><img class=" lazyloaded" src="https://www.outsideonline.com/sites/default/files/styles/three-quarter-page-scaled-1x/public/knipper-features.jpg?itok=bw3gYhnz" alt="knipper-features"/>The Kniper's 22 functions. <span>Photo:</span> Urchin Sky</div>
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<h2 class="p1"><span class="s1">Using It</span></h2>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1">The Kniper arrives with spoon-like sharpness, so the first thing you’ll need to do is put it on your <a href="https://amzn.to/2lkLJ01" target="_blank">Spyderco Sharpmaker</a> or <a href="https://amzn.to/2kj0kJ2" target="_blank">Work Sharp</a> to put a real edge on it. Made from 440HC stainless steel, it’s definitely not the easiest blade I’ve ever sharpened, but it shouldn’t take you too long, and it’ll hold that edge with some semblance of longevity. </span></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1">Last weekend, I dragged the knife up to the High Sierra for a group campout way out in the middle of nowhere. There, we had fun throwing it at trees, used it to opens some cans and beers, and yes, smoked a ton of weed out of it. </span></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1">My first impression of the Kniper was surprise at its heft, then alarm as I stabbed myself on one of its many sharp, protruding edges, including the saw on the back and the fork on its pommel. No one slashed any part of their face off this weekend, but I did pack an extra tube of Krazy Glue, just in case. </span></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1">A quick paracord wrap improves the handle comfort and safety immensely. But it also interferes with the knife’s weight balance and therefore its ability to fly straight when thrown. You’ll need to choose between not cutting yourself and throwing it. </span></p>
<p class="p1 adRefresh"><span class="s1">At 13 inches long, the Kniper is a surprisingly big, hefty knife. That means it really sticks into something when thrown and that it can be used to process firewood and perform other big-knife chores. I would recommend a pair of gloves if you intend to use it for heavy work though. Again, it’s pointy and slick. </span></p>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1">Ultimately, the Kniper proved more of a novelty than an essential camp tool or even a fun toy. We did end up resorting to hatchets and a bow saw to process wood, went back to chatting instead of knife throwing around the fire, and smoked pot from traditional hardware, once the initial amusement had worn off. </span></p>
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<div class="pin-hover"><span class="pinit"><a target="_blank" href="https://www.pinterest.com/pin/create/button/?url=https://www.outsideonline.com/2087606/throwing-knife-doubles-marijuana-pipe&media=https://www.outsideonline.com/sites/default/files/styles/three-quarter-page-scaled-1x/public/knipper-fork.jpg?itok=DXHwt2CN&description=We%20stuck%20the%20Kniper%20fork-first%20on%20most%20of%20our%20throws.%20But%20hey,%20it%20still%20stuck!"></a></span><img class=" lazyloaded" src="https://www.outsideonline.com/sites/default/files/styles/three-quarter-page-scaled-1x/public/knipper-fork.jpg?itok=DXHwt2CN" alt="knipper-fork"/>We stuck the Kniper fork-first on most of our throws. But hey, it still stuck! <span>Photo:</span> Wes Siler</div>
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<h2 class="p1"><span class="s1">Likes</span></h2>
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<li class="p1"><span class="s1">Definitely the world’s most dangerous marijuana pipe. </span></li>
<li class="p1"><span class="s1">Impacts your throwing target with gusto.</span></li>
<li class="p1"><span class="s1">Will help you clear old Band-Aids out of your first-aid kit. </span></li>
<li class="p1"><span class="s1">Not the worst knife I’ve ever used. </span></li>
<li class="p1"><span class="s1">Chicks dig scars. </span></li>
<li class="p1"><span class="s1">Retains packed bowl when thrown. </span></li>
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<div class="pin-hover"><span class="pinit"><a target="_blank" href="https://www.pinterest.com/pin/create/button/?url=https://www.outsideonline.com/2087606/throwing-knife-doubles-marijuana-pipe&media=https://www.outsideonline.com/sites/default/files/styles/three-quarter-page-scaled-1x/public/knipper-sheath.jpg?itok=I7boIUzK&description=The%20Kniper%27s%20sheath%20is%20disappointing.%20The%20nylon/plastic%20construction%20is%20just%20super%20cheap,%20retention%20is%20only%20provided%20by%20the%20flimsy%20snap%20strap,%20and%20the%20fork%20end%20is%20left%20exposed%20to%20stab%20your%20body%20as%20you%20move."></a></span><img class=" lazyloaded" src="https://www.outsideonline.com/sites/default/files/styles/three-quarter-page-scaled-1x/public/knipper-sheath.jpg?itok=I7boIUzK" alt="knipper-sheath"/>The Kniper's sheath is disappointing. The nylon/plastic construction is just super cheap, retention is only provided by the flimsy snap strap, and the fork end is left exposed to stab your body as you move. <span>Photo:</span> Urchin Sky</div>
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<h2 class="p1"><span class="s1">Dislikes</span></h2>
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<li class="p1"><span class="s1">Arrives totally dull.</span></li>
<li class="p1"><span class="s1">Sheath is garbage.</span></li>
<li class="p1"><span class="s1">Saw is both too short and too thick to work. </span></li>
<li class="p1"><span class="s1">Phillips head is not shaped like a Phillips bit. </span></li>
<li class="p1"><span class="s1">You’ll stab yourself in the eye, guaranteed. </span></li>
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<div class="pin-hover"><span class="pinit"><a target="_blank" href="https://www.pinterest.com/pin/create/button/?url=https://www.outsideonline.com/2087606/throwing-knife-doubles-marijuana-pipe&media=https://www.outsideonline.com/sites/default/files/styles/three-quarter-page-scaled-1x/public/knipper-throw.jpg?itok=KIZ6e5Jm&description=Ty%20hurls%20the%20Kniper%20at%20a%20tree."></a></span><img class=" lazyloaded" src="https://www.outsideonline.com/sites/default/files/styles/three-quarter-page-scaled-1x/public/knipper-throw.jpg?itok=KIZ6e5Jm" alt="knipper-throw"/>Ty hurls the Kniper at a tree. <span>Photo:</span> Wes Siler</div>
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<h2 class="p1"><span class="s1">Should You Buy One?</span></h2>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1">Are you an 18-year-old boy? If not in fact, in spirit? If so, you’re next camping trip will be a lot more fun if you bring one of these things along. Of course, if you are actually 18, you might have trouble affording one. <a href="http://www.urchinsky.com.s3-website-us-west-1.amazonaws.com/index.html" target="_blank">The Kniper is $155</a>. </span></p>
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<p class="p1"><span class="s1">Original discussion is here <a href="https://www.outsideonline.com/2087606/throwing-knife-doubles-marijuana-pipe" target="_blank">https://www.outsideonline.com/2087606/throwing-knife-doubles-marijuana-pipe</a></span></p> Who wins the featured member of 2015??tag:iknifecollector.com,2016-01-01:3181080:Topic:13825072016-01-01T18:09:55.643ZJan Carterhttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/JanCarter
<p style="text-align: center;"><span class="font-size-4"><strong>Oh and what did they win????</strong></span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span class="font-size-3">Every month we name our featured members. How do you become one? Posting. Better yet posting something you will see comments from. Basically, being active. At the end of every year we look over the members that have achieved that status over the year and where they are in the featured members line up month by…</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span class="font-size-4"><strong>Oh and what did they win????</strong></span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span class="font-size-3">Every month we name our featured members. How do you become one? Posting. Better yet posting something you will see comments from. Basically, being active. At the end of every year we look over the members that have achieved that status over the year and where they are in the featured members line up month by month.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><span class="font-size-3">Our featured member of 2015 has been featured every month of that year, usually near or at the top. He contributes with picture, articles, discussions and by replying to discussions through out the year. He frequents the nightly chat and has become friends with those joining in.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span class="font-size-3">Congratulations to Jeremy Buchanan. On the way to your home is a NEW Puma 6540000 SGB Coyote Knife German Blade Micarta Handled knife.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span class="font-size-3">Jeremy has agreed to take this knife on one of his camping trips he shares with us and review it for us. Thank you Jeremy for all you do through out the year and for being here with us!</span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span class="font-size-3"><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2655294601?profile=original" target="_self"><img width="750" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2655294601?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="750" class="align-full"/></a></span></p> Elephant Ivory news is BADtag:iknifecollector.com,2015-07-30:3181080:Topic:13409792015-07-30T00:21:01.848ZJan Carterhttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/JanCarter
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<span>Punishes Americans for Chinese Supported Poaching</span> </div>
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<p><strong>After over a year's delay, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service's proposed regulation that would virtually ban the interstate trade in ivory, including knives with…</strong></p>
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<div class="ecxArticleHeadline" align="center"><div><div align="left"><div><div align="center"><div><p>Proposed Federal Ivory Ban Rule As Bad As Expected </p>
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<span>Punishes Americans for Chinese Supported Poaching</span> </div>
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<div><strong><img height="198" vspace="5" border="0" hspace="5" width="200" src="https://bay176.mail.live.com/Handlers/ImageProxy.mvc?bicild=&canary=3pZggKOzAcrA4NmbHfQV9%2bwbrUlOVwohVnFAlxKXyMk%3d0&url=http%3a%2f%2ffiles.ctctcdn.com%2f8945fb0f001%2f8dd93827-a7b7-4918-86bc-b55aafa29f40.png" align="right"/></strong><p><strong> </strong></p>
<p><strong>After over a year's delay, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service's proposed regulation that would virtually ban the interstate trade in ivory, including knives with ivory handles and embellishments, has been published in the Federal Register. </strong></p>
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<strong>Knife Rights Chairman Doug Ritter explains, "Knife owners, knifemakers, scrimshaw artists and suppliers will all be hit hard if the rule is allowed to go into effect as it is proposed. While there are some exceptions allowed in this proposed ivory ban, they are very narrow and the overall impact is as bad as expected for honest owners of decades-old legal ivory." A 60-day comment period is provided.</strong><br/>
<p>Knife Rights abhors the poaching of all species. The proven solution is to attack poaching at the source, not punish lawful ivory owners in the U.S. who cannot have any effect on poaching in Africa. Successful anti-poaching programs have demonstrated that an integrated comprehensive approach that encourages the locals to fight poaching does work. This is the sort of solution that should be expanded and encouraged by the U.S. and by all who really want to end poaching.</p>
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<p>Knife Rights is working with our partners in the many organizations opposed to this rule to develop effective, well-reasoned and coherent arguments against this rule that we'll ask you to submit as comments over the next two months. That will take some time to put together. </p>
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<strong><a shape="rect" href="http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=0014AwGlolIDI-S982pFVrF2h-klGS0Alt_BPSXK9tdACjUcVyeIebiHVDJ2sEoX4SOfEkLtKdkhWE7APQBPoRi8djgJWmyQrcBavFaoVisO-MZ4ZUAKwDtoJrftbvtAyVBOkavaTtl6oRjepzOt_SkoIt2HJhPU42Ubx2OYvKY_eGvBzICRyUrnIrEJYBL4P_Bo6jKTDID1CWT835z27HpXZtIT2f8pLVkym1Yn-rs4PPj7kZVauuuM3BhH3AS8NBc&c=-Mm-HzYULvi1JTqINTixO55KAl8zghRiqNsBAMHjhS7_SPJr41VgMQ==&ch=0uedIZIbVuo1nOLAmIfpmhbgGtunxCiUEsMDskgAFDJ9m3M_40G_LA==" target="_blank">The most important thing you can do right now is to contact your U.S. Representative and Senators to ask them to co-sponsor the African Elephant Conservation and Legal Ivory Possession Act of 2015 which would protect honest U.S. ivory owners while providing for additional conservation and anti-poaching efforts in Africa. Click for more information.</a></strong><br/>
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<p><strong>This proposed regulation is based on three FALSE premises being promoted by the Administration for entirely political purposes:</strong></p>
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<li>Elephant poaching in Africa is escalating<ul>
<li><strong>Truth: CITES data shows poaching numbers have been falling since 2011 due to enhanced enforcement of existing law</strong></li>
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<li>Large amounts of illegal ivory are being imported into the United States that are driving the elephant poaching problems in Africa<ul>
<li><strong>Truth: both CITES and U.S. data show that illicit ivory imports to the U.S. are insignificant, it is Chinese demand fueling the poaching</strong></li>
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<li>By punishing Americans, the Chinese consumers who are really fueling the poaching problems will abandon their cultural affinity for ivory<ul>
<li><strong>Truth: Chinese demand for illicit ivory is independent from U.S. trade in domestic decades-old legal ivory</strong></li>
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<p>There is a lot to digest in this proposed regulation. The bottom line is that USFWS Director Dan Ashe has stated that the goal of the regulation is to implement a near complete ban on the domestic commercial trade of ivory. While the federal government does not have the power to stop trade within states, it is trying to end interstate trade (trade across state lines) in ivory that is decades-old and absolutely legal today to sell and trade. <strong>There is no evidence that this ban would save a single elephant in Africa, but it will take millions of dollars in value from honest Americans.</strong> </p>
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<p>There is more in this rule than can be described in one email blast, but an important addition to what has come before is a new <em>de minimis</em> exemption. To dilute political opposition to the rule, particularly from this Administration's key supporters, USFWS is proposing an exception for a narrow category of already manufactured items that contain less than 200 grams (7.05 oz.) of ivory. </p>
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<p><strong>However, the exemption sounds better than it really is</strong> and there are some very strict and narrow criteria for the exemption. One critical criteria hasn't even been established yet and ivory owners would have to wait on that from the USFWS until AFTER the rule is put into force! (If that sounds somewhat familiar to other rulemaking and legislative efforts by this Administration that have not turned out well, it should.):</p>
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<li><span>If the item is located within the United States, the ivory was imported into the United States prior to January 18, 1990, or was imported into the United States under a Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species of Wild Fauna and Flora (CITES) pre-Convention certificate with no limitation on its commercial use;</span></li>
<li><span>If the item is located outside the United States, the ivory was removed from the wild prior to February 26, 1976;</span></li>
<li><span>The ivory is a fixed component or components of a larger manufactured item and is not in its current form the primary source of the value of the item;</span></li>
<li><span>The ivory is not raw;</span></li>
<li><span>The manufactured item is not made wholly or primarily of ivory;</span></li>
<li><span>The total weight of the ivory component or components is less than 200 grams; and</span></li>
<li><span>The item was manufactured before the effective date of the final rule.</span></li>
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<p>This exemption attempts to appease musicians and a limited number of other groups. It potentially might include some of the ivory handled and embellished knives owned by Americans. <strong>As noted, however, there are serious shortcomings to this exemption.</strong> Problems include:</p>
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<li>Sellers are still burdened with documentation requirements to prove they fit within the exemption and <strong>nobody will know for certain what this documentation will be until after the rule is put into effect</strong>! Nothing suggests that USFWS would be any more accommodating with regards to documentation than in its past positions and that means that very few individuals will be able to gain acceptable documentation, in large part since no documentation was previously required for these manufactured goods, so it simply doesn't exist</li>
<li>There is no provision for repair or restoration of ivory components</li>
<li>The method for measuring ivory to determine whether an item qualifies has not been defined</li>
<li>Items made primarily from ivory (i.e. scrimshaw, jewelry, sculpture and carved objets d'art, chess sets, netsuke, religious items, etc.) are excluded entirely from this exemption.</li>
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<p>We will provide recommended comments to address these and other issues over the next two months. You will be able to submit more than one comment and we can respond to comments made by others as long as comments are received by the end of the comment period, September 28th.</p>
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<p><strong><span>Right now, the very best action you can take is to CALL or EMAIL your Representative and Senators and ask them to Co-Sponsor the African Elephant Conservation and Legal Ivory Possession Act of 2015 (H.R. 697 or S.1769, respectively) to protect both elephants and Americans.</span> You can find your U.S. legislators and send them all an email here:<a shape="rect" href="http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=0014AwGlolIDI-S982pFVrF2h-klGS0Alt_BPSXK9tdACjUcVyeIebiHVDJ2sEoX4SOLZdnXvLT-kH5L4VUGZJbKUmHT3ZmcxOtQONFJzJbVW2YXYkhs0Mcz8oWWKyuQsysRc6Y8y_BEulSZCydo94AYbA9qNFHkmecrMvvroow1qs=&c=-Mm-HzYULvi1JTqINTixO55KAl8zghRiqNsBAMHjhS7_SPJr41VgMQ==&ch=0uedIZIbVuo1nOLAmIfpmhbgGtunxCiUEsMDskgAFDJ9m3M_40G_LA==" target="_blank">www.democracy.io</a></strong></p>
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</div> Odd huge knife Identificationtag:iknifecollector.com,2015-05-15:3181080:Topic:13172972015-05-15T14:01:10.233ZDan hamillhttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/Danhamill
<p>i bought this knife at the Hollis nh flea market. It's very big, it's marked bear and bull on the blade along with hand made on the same blade. It also has a bear and bull emblem that looks nickel and black inset into the yellow side plate. The side plates are yellow or yellowed mother of pearl type material with a small piece missing on one side. The knife is 8" long, the large blade is 6" long, the short reg blade is 3" long, the last blade is razor shaped and also 3" long. Total length…</p>
<p>i bought this knife at the Hollis nh flea market. It's very big, it's marked bear and bull on the blade along with hand made on the same blade. It also has a bear and bull emblem that looks nickel and black inset into the yellow side plate. The side plates are yellow or yellowed mother of pearl type material with a small piece missing on one side. The knife is 8" long, the large blade is 6" long, the short reg blade is 3" long, the last blade is razor shaped and also 3" long. Total length when knife is open is 14" long. The bolsters look like nickel. Except for the missing piece and very minor scratching on the bolsters it is in very nice condition. The blades are highly polished and look like they were never resharpened. This thing weighs almost 1.5 lb. it looks like it has age to it even though it is in such good shape. Is it maybe a store or salesman demo knife? I can't find anything like it on the Internet. Any info is appreciated. Can't figure out its value since I can't find anything like it. Thanks for the help. Dan</p>
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<p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2655275893?profile=original" target="_self"><img width="750" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2655275893?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="750" class="align-full"/></a></p> Wade & Butcher tang stamptag:iknifecollector.com,2015-04-20:3181080:Topic:13040802015-04-20T16:45:50.342ZMichael Squierhttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/MichaelSquier
<p>John, can you date this tang stamp? I see that they were in business till 1947 but I cant find any stamp lists for Wade & Butcher. This is a blade and crossguard I just got for $10, I think I did ok.…</p>
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<p>John, can you date this tang stamp? I see that they were in business till 1947 but I cant find any stamp lists for Wade & Butcher. This is a blade and crossguard I just got for $10, I think I did ok.</p>
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