Benchmade Barrage: Assisted or Auto? - iKnife Collector2024-03-29T04:48:32Zhttps://iknifecollector.com/forum/topics/benchmade-barrage-assisted-or?groupUrl=benchmadeaddicts&commentId=3181080%3AComment%3A993305&groupId=3181080%3AGroup%3A9538&feed=yes&xn_auth=noOkay...here it is. My first R…tag:iknifecollector.com,2014-07-10:3181080:Comment:11641552014-07-10T23:38:14.347ZSteve Scheuerman (Manx)https://iknifecollector.com/profile/SteveScheuerman
<p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2770416809?profile=original" target="_self"><img class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2770416809?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721"></img></a> Okay...here it is. My first REAL Benchmade from Terry! Kinda nervous, since Border Services opened it first, but it seems all there.</p>
<p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2770417333?profile=original" target="_self"><img class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2770417333?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721"></img></a> A magnifier sporting the iKC name! Very cool!…</p>
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<p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2770416809?profile=original" target="_self"><img width="721" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2770416809?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721" class="align-full"/></a>Okay...here it is. My first REAL Benchmade from Terry! Kinda nervous, since Border Services opened it first, but it seems all there.</p>
<p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2770417333?profile=original" target="_self"><img width="721" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2770417333?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721" class="align-full"/></a>A magnifier sporting the iKC name! Very cool!</p>
<p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2770418332?profile=original" target="_self"><img width="721" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2770418332?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721" class="align-full"/></a>Sweeeet!</p>
<p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2770419060?profile=original" target="_self"><img width="721" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2770419060?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721" class="align-full"/></a>Carrying pouch too!</p>
<p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2770419515?profile=original" target="_self"><img width="721" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2770419515?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721" class="align-full"/></a>Durned purdy lookin' so far!</p>
<p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2770420108?profile=original" target="_self"><img width="721" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2770420108?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721" class="align-full"/></a>I think I'm in love!</p>
<p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2770420706?profile=original" target="_self"><img width="721" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2770420706?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721" class="align-full"/></a>Yup...it's love! What a snap to the opening! Great feel to it, nice heft and weight...</p>
<p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2770421281?profile=original" target="_self"><img width="721" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2770421281?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721" class="align-full"/></a>And my very first m390 SuperSteel knife! Mine does not open just by pulling on the lock, however. Awesome knife! Decent edge on it. I can get a better one on it, but this may be a collection piece since it was sent out of friendship by Terry Ray, who didn't like the fact that my first "Benchmade" was a knockoff. Absolutely love it! Thanks again, Terry! What incredible folks we have on this site!</p> I agree Chris , wish I could…tag:iknifecollector.com,2013-10-29:3181080:Comment:9934542013-10-29T02:42:37.858ZTerry Rayhttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/TerryRay
<p>I agree Chris , wish I could say it better DITTO!<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Chris Stookey said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.iknifecollector.com/forum/topics/benchmade-barrage-assisted-or?groupUrl=benchmadeaddicts&commentId=3181080%3AComment%3A993305&groupId=3181080%3AGroup%3A9538#3181080Comment142328"><div><div class="xg_user_generated">One thing that politicians consciously ignore is the simple fact is that the human capacity for violence is inherent. Removing one perceived…</div>
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<p>I agree Chris , wish I could say it better DITTO!<br/> <br/> <cite>Chris Stookey said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.iknifecollector.com/forum/topics/benchmade-barrage-assisted-or?groupUrl=benchmadeaddicts&commentId=3181080%3AComment%3A993305&groupId=3181080%3AGroup%3A9538#3181080Comment142328"><div><div class="xg_user_generated">One thing that politicians consciously ignore is the simple fact is that the human capacity for violence is inherent. Removing one perceived implement only results in people ADAPTING and using another. If a person is intent on committing an act of violence against another person, laws absolutely will not stop it from happening. However, there is a significant relevance in the difference between "good" people and "bad" people. While all of us are ultimately "capable" of violence, "good" people are much better at restraining themselves. "Bad" people are historically established as lacking the same degree of restraint. Additionally, laws only work on people willing to obey them. "Bad" people certainly won't cooperate with some silly politician's edict...so taking knives (or guns) away from law-abiding citizens ONLY serves to further empower those people who won't obey the laws. I, for one, will not empower criminals. If I am attacked, I'll defend myself to whatever extent necessary. If I have to run a Popsicle stick through some thug's eyeball, I'll do it!<br/> <br/> <cite>Chris C. said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.iknifecollector.com/forum/topics/benchmade-barrage-assisted-or?groupUrl=benchmadeaddicts&page=1&commentId=3181080%3AComment%3A139991&x=1#3181080Comment139991"><div>Legal here to have full auto or assist, but I don't buy into the whole good/bad people thing sorry. We all have both inside us. We all have the ability to control what comes out. A knife is a tool, I have screwdrivers that are more dangerous. Hell we can all move to NYC and protect ourselves with toothpicks and popsicle sticks! Who's with me!?<br/> <br/> (sorry sarcasm runs through my veins.)</div>
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</blockquote> I would say assisted, because…tag:iknifecollector.com,2013-10-29:3181080:Comment:9933052013-10-29T02:40:49.812ZTerry Rayhttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/TerryRay
<p>I would say assisted, because just releasing the axis lock doesn't activate the release of the blade, it must be pushed but of course it don't take much. The Austrailian customs consider it a assisted, which they still don't like anyway.</p>
<p>the Barrage is a awesome knife, the mini barrage in M 390 super steel is my favorite</p>
<p>Benchmades stand on this is Because of the way that the Benchmade assist-open knives are designed and built, they are NOT considered automatics or switchblades…</p>
<p>I would say assisted, because just releasing the axis lock doesn't activate the release of the blade, it must be pushed but of course it don't take much. The Austrailian customs consider it a assisted, which they still don't like anyway.</p>
<p>the Barrage is a awesome knife, the mini barrage in M 390 super steel is my favorite</p>
<p>Benchmades stand on this is Because of the way that the Benchmade assist-open knives are designed and built, they are NOT considered automatics or switchblades under Federal interpretation. , it is still recommended that the user research and verify the legalities in their own specific area.</p>
<p>Terry</p> Hello fellow benchmade lover.…tag:iknifecollector.com,2013-10-12:3181080:Comment:9811732013-10-12T20:05:38.915ZFrank yanezhttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/Frankyanez
<p>Hello fellow benchmade lover. What you do is tighten the pivot screw and you will not be able to do so. under CA law</p>
<p>if you can open your knife like this its considered a gravity knife.But don't get upset just tighten the pivot screw and you wont have to worry</p>
<p>Hello fellow benchmade lover. What you do is tighten the pivot screw and you will not be able to do so. under CA law</p>
<p>if you can open your knife like this its considered a gravity knife.But don't get upset just tighten the pivot screw and you wont have to worry</p> I carry a Barrage 581BK
Love…tag:iknifecollector.com,2012-02-28:3181080:Comment:5633552012-02-28T23:54:48.957ZJim Lucierhttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/JamesRLucier
<p>I carry a Barrage 581BK</p>
<p>Love the spring assist.</p>
<p>Gets plenty of attention too.</p>
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<p>I carry a Barrage 581BK</p>
<p>Love the spring assist.</p>
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<p> </p> Going back to this older post…tag:iknifecollector.com,2012-02-26:3181080:Comment:5620752012-02-26T18:31:11.290ZJoe Karphttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/JoeKarp
<p>Going back to this older post, I don't think that's the way it's turned out. Assisted knives are more popular than ever, from the A/O Axis models to the 'Outburst' and others, the trend is moving rapidly in favor of these knive being accepted and more so as time passes. If you follow KnifeRights.Org, Doug Ritter's site, you'll find many states are in the process of rescinding antiquated fear based laws in favor of these knives we love to carry. <br></br><br></br><cite>Ally Burnham…</cite></p>
<p>Going back to this older post, I don't think that's the way it's turned out. Assisted knives are more popular than ever, from the A/O Axis models to the 'Outburst' and others, the trend is moving rapidly in favor of these knive being accepted and more so as time passes. If you follow KnifeRights.Org, Doug Ritter's site, you'll find many states are in the process of rescinding antiquated fear based laws in favor of these knives we love to carry. <br/><br/><cite>Ally Burnham said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.iknifecollector.com/forum/topics/benchmade-barrage-assisted-or?groupUrl=benchmadeaddicts&#3181080Comment10408"><div><div class="xg_user_generated">Ok so it assisted. And your right you can open buy pulling back the lock.<br/>This same question was brought up in court in Indiana. They said that ALL assisted were auto. (under the law)<br/><br/>I think the down ward motion is opening the knife the required 33% to activate the spring. How many knives can you open with out using the thumb stud and doing a flick of the wrist?<br/><br/>assisted knives are on the chopping block as it is. Soon they will be illegal everywhere auto knives, if the courts have there way.<br/><br/>I don't think they should pull it they should just be aware of the problem.</div>
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</blockquote> "A free people ought not only…tag:iknifecollector.com,2010-10-11:3181080:Comment:1425352010-10-11T11:55:52.913Z0u6rznc4p1pvthttps://iknifecollector.com/xn/detail/u_0u6rznc4p1pvt
"A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government." -- George Washington
"A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government." -- George Washington One thing that politicians co…tag:iknifecollector.com,2010-10-09:3181080:Comment:1423282010-10-09T20:46:42.298ZChris Stookeyhttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/ChrisStookey
One thing that politicians consciously ignore is the simple fact is that the human capacity for violence is inherent. Removing one perceived implement only results in people ADAPTING and using another. If a person is intent on committing an act of violence against another person, laws absolutely will not stop it from happening. However, there is a significant relevance in the difference between "good" people and "bad" people. While all of us are ultimately "capable" of violence, "good" people…
One thing that politicians consciously ignore is the simple fact is that the human capacity for violence is inherent. Removing one perceived implement only results in people ADAPTING and using another. If a person is intent on committing an act of violence against another person, laws absolutely will not stop it from happening. However, there is a significant relevance in the difference between "good" people and "bad" people. While all of us are ultimately "capable" of violence, "good" people are much better at restraining themselves. "Bad" people are historically established as lacking the same degree of restraint. Additionally, laws only work on people willing to obey them. "Bad" people certainly won't cooperate with some silly politician's edict...so taking knives (or guns) away from law-abiding citizens ONLY serves to further empower those people who won't obey the laws. I, for one, will not empower criminals. If I am attacked, I'll defend myself to whatever extent necessary. If I have to run a Popsicle stick through some thug's eyeball, I'll do it!<br/>
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<cite>Chris C. said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.iknifecollector.com/forum/topics/benchmade-barrage-assisted-or?groupUrl=benchmadeaddicts&page=1&commentId=3181080%3AComment%3A139991&x=1#3181080Comment139991"><div>Legal here to have full auto or assist, but I don't buy into the whole good/bad people thing sorry. We all have both inside us. We all have the ability to control what comes out. A knife is a tool, I have screwdrivers that are more dangerous. Hell we can all move to NYC and protect ourselves with toothpicks and popsicle sticks! Who's with me!?<br/> <br/> (sorry sarcasm runs through my veins.)</div>
</blockquote> Legal here to have full auto…tag:iknifecollector.com,2010-10-03:3181080:Comment:1399912010-10-03T07:08:45.693Z0u6rznc4p1pvthttps://iknifecollector.com/xn/detail/u_0u6rznc4p1pvt
Legal here to have full auto or assist, but I don't buy into the whole good/bad people thing sorry. We all have both inside us. We all have the ability to control what comes out. A knife is a tool, I have screwdrivers that are more dangerous. Hell we can all move to NYC and protect ourselves with toothpicks and popsicle sticks! Who's with me!?<br />
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Legal here to have full auto or assist, but I don't buy into the whole good/bad people thing sorry. We all have both inside us. We all have the ability to control what comes out. A knife is a tool, I have screwdrivers that are more dangerous. Hell we can all move to NYC and protect ourselves with toothpicks and popsicle sticks! Who's with me!?<br />
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(sorry sarcasm runs through my veins.) The Switchblade law is an out…tag:iknifecollector.com,2010-09-12:3181080:Comment:1344922010-09-12T18:36:26.533ZChris Stookeyhttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/ChrisStookey
The Switchblade law is an outdated piece of legislation passed long after it's relevance by politicians whose good intention was birthed in shortsighted thinking and from a misguided understanding of human nature. It is a law that needs to be completely repealed. Why? Well, just like any potentially dangerous item, a switchblade is an inanimate object. The problem isn't the switchblade, it's the person wielding it. Switchblades can be used by very good people to do helpful and productive…
The Switchblade law is an outdated piece of legislation passed long after it's relevance by politicians whose good intention was birthed in shortsighted thinking and from a misguided understanding of human nature. It is a law that needs to be completely repealed. Why? Well, just like any potentially dangerous item, a switchblade is an inanimate object. The problem isn't the switchblade, it's the person wielding it. Switchblades can be used by very good people to do helpful and productive things. They can also be used by criminals for acts that are detrimental to the good people of society. Merely "getting rid" of switchblades accomplishes NOTHING GOOD. Absolutely nothing.<br />
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The problem with any law is that it only "works" if people obey it. The danger in society isn't from law-abiding citizens; it is from criminals. Criminals, by nature, have an abject disregard for laws. They are a danger to law-abiding citizens and disarming law-abiding citizens only further empowers criminals. So...getting rid of items that are commonly thought of as weapons doesn't disarm the criminal element because they will always have and use weapons. Get rid of switchblades and the criminals will still have them. Even if the criminals didn't have switchblades, they'd have something else. Law-abiding citizens MUST BE ARMED. That is the only way to keep the criminal element "in check"...since it is PAINFULLY OBVIOUS that the government is abysmally ineffective at controlling criminals.<br />
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There are good people and there are bad people. It has been this way since the beginning and laws will NOT change that reality. Perhaps the challenge to the good people of the knife-using community isn't to try to convince legal bureaucrats within the government to not see an assisted-opening knife as something different from a switchblade. Perhaps the challenge is to get those same foolish bureaucrats to understand that disarming good people only serves to make bad people MORE POWERFUL. Perhaps what the knife community really needs to do is...to GET THE SWITCHBLADE LAW REPEALED!<br />
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As an aside...albeit an important "aside", it is completely unhealthy for a society's populace to be disarmed by the government...for the population of any government consists of dominantly ambitious people. And like the common populace of society, within the government are both good AND bad people. The bad people within government certainly seek to take as much freedom and power away from the common free-person as possible. By doing so, they further empower themselves...and ultimate power is a temptation too strong for any mortal.