bicycles and survival - iKnife Collector2024-03-29T09:13:36Zhttps://iknifecollector.com/forum/topics/bicycles-and-survival?groupUrl=themodernsurvivalist&commentId=3181080%3AComment%3A1195549&groupId=3181080%3AGroup%3A9694&feed=yes&xn_auth=noTobias, Right again.tag:iknifecollector.com,2014-10-09:3181080:Comment:12008662014-10-09T06:06:22.965ZJames Colehttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/JamesCole
<p>Tobias, Right again.</p>
<p>Tobias, Right again.</p> Yep. no doubt that bike woul…tag:iknifecollector.com,2014-10-08:3181080:Comment:12006052014-10-08T23:46:59.165ZTobias Gibsonhttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/TobiasGibson
<p>Yep. no doubt that bike would work better in say Dallas Texas than San Francisco California</p>
<p>Yep. no doubt that bike would work better in say Dallas Texas than San Francisco California</p> You're correct Tobias. If in…tag:iknifecollector.com,2014-10-08:3181080:Comment:12005222014-10-08T21:47:51.052ZJames Colehttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/JamesCole
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">You're correct Tobias. If in my example we went from the 36 tooth sprocket to a 48 tooth, we would increase the rotation of the back wheel to a 4 to 1 ratio, but also greatly increase the exertion to turn the crank. I suspect this trike was spec'ted out to travel between 1 or 2 miles for deliveries.</p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Putting brakes on the trailer would be difficult, but not impossible. The reason I would add…</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">You're correct Tobias. If in my example we went from the 36 tooth sprocket to a 48 tooth, we would increase the rotation of the back wheel to a 4 to 1 ratio, but also greatly increase the exertion to turn the crank. I suspect this trike was spec'ted out to travel between 1 or 2 miles for deliveries.</p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Putting brakes on the trailer would be difficult, but not impossible. The reason I would add braking power is to control downhill speed and for holding on uphill pushes.</p>
<p><br/> <br/> <cite>Tobias Gibson said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.iknifecollector.com/forum/topics/bicycles-and-survival?groupUrl=themodernsurvivalist&xg_source=msg_com_gr_forum&groupId=3181080%3AGroup%3A9694&id=3181080%3ATopic%3A1195234&page=3#3181080Comment1200505"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I think the reason you have such a small front sprocket is because of the weight the byke is designed to haul. A larger front sprocket would also mena you have to apply more effort to get that back wheel moving. This bike is made for hauling not speed. This also explain why it uses a pedal brake. (that said, I'd probably add hand brakes for the front tires as well as the attached trailer.</p>
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</blockquote> I think the reason you have s…tag:iknifecollector.com,2014-10-08:3181080:Comment:12005052014-10-08T18:21:56.226ZTobias Gibsonhttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/TobiasGibson
<p>I think the reason you have such a small front sprocket is because of the weight the byke is designed to haul. A larger front sprocket would also mena you have to apply more effort to get that back wheel moving. This bike is made for hauling not speed. This also explain why it uses a pedal brake. (that said, I'd probably add hand brakes for the front tires as well as the attached trailer.</p>
<p>I think the reason you have such a small front sprocket is because of the weight the byke is designed to haul. A larger front sprocket would also mena you have to apply more effort to get that back wheel moving. This bike is made for hauling not speed. This also explain why it uses a pedal brake. (that said, I'd probably add hand brakes for the front tires as well as the attached trailer.</p> Good observations. Too much…tag:iknifecollector.com,2014-10-08:3181080:Comment:12004962014-10-08T17:50:26.957ZHoward P Reynoldshttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/HowardPReynolds
<p>Good observations. Too much math for this old geezer. Think I'll stick with my sulky idea - much less math, and sprockets. Hahahaha. However, you bring up an important point for my sulky idea - needs brakes. 500 lbs of cargo will be pushing you down a hill with more force than two legs can stand; without brakes. Again, too much math for me to figger, but puttin on some brakes eliminates the need for math.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>James Cole said:…</cite></p>
<p>Good observations. Too much math for this old geezer. Think I'll stick with my sulky idea - much less math, and sprockets. Hahahaha. However, you bring up an important point for my sulky idea - needs brakes. 500 lbs of cargo will be pushing you down a hill with more force than two legs can stand; without brakes. Again, too much math for me to figger, but puttin on some brakes eliminates the need for math.<br/> <br/> <cite>James Cole said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.iknifecollector.com/forum/topics/bicycles-and-survival?groupUrl=themodernsurvivalist&commentId=3181080%3AComment%3A1200568&xg_source=msg_com_gr_forum#3181080Comment1200568"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Some observations on the Cargo Trike that Jan posted.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">First: looking at the handlebars; there is no shift lever, therefore this is a single speed rig.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Second: again looking at the handlebars; there is no brake lever, therefore braking is by means of a coaster brake. Peddle forward and the trike moves, stop peddling and the trike coasts, peddle backwards and you brake/stop(hopefully). It does appear as though you could put brakes on the front basket.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Finally: the driving sprocket is quite small which means you will put a lot of power to the driven sprocket, but you will be spinning a lot more for each mile ridden. The number of turns of the driven sprocket and therefore the wheel, is – number of teeth on the driving sprocket divided by the number of teeth on the driven sprocket. Driving sprocket, 36 teeth, driven sprocket 12 teeth would yield, one full turn of the crank gets three turns of the wheel.</p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">If I were to acquire this trike I would add brakes on the front wheels and reshape the handlebars for a more comfortable fit.</p>
<p><br/> <br/> <cite>Jan Carter said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.iknifecollector.com/group/themodernsurvivalist/forum/topic/show?groupUrl=themodernsurvivalist&id=3181080%3ATopic%3A1195234&xg_source=msg&page=2#3181080Comment1195544"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2770435745?profile=original" target="_self"><img width="721" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2770435745?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" class="align-full" width="721"/></a></p>
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</blockquote> Some observations on the Carg…tag:iknifecollector.com,2014-10-08:3181080:Comment:12005682014-10-08T17:37:03.415ZJames Colehttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/JamesCole
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Some observations on the Cargo Trike that Jan posted.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">First: looking at the handlebars; there is no shift lever, therefore this is a single speed rig.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Second: again looking at the handlebars; there is no brake lever, therefore braking is by means of a coaster brake. Peddle forward and the trike moves, stop peddling and the trike coasts, peddle backwards and you brake/stop(hopefully). It does…</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Some observations on the Cargo Trike that Jan posted.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">First: looking at the handlebars; there is no shift lever, therefore this is a single speed rig.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Second: again looking at the handlebars; there is no brake lever, therefore braking is by means of a coaster brake. Peddle forward and the trike moves, stop peddling and the trike coasts, peddle backwards and you brake/stop(hopefully). It does appear as though you could put brakes on the front basket.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Finally: the driving sprocket is quite small which means you will put a lot of power to the driven sprocket, but you will be spinning a lot more for each mile ridden. The number of turns of the driven sprocket and therefore the wheel, is – number of teeth on the driving sprocket divided by the number of teeth on the driven sprocket. Driving sprocket, 36 teeth, driven sprocket 12 teeth would yield, one full turn of the crank gets three turns of the wheel.</p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">If I were to acquire this trike I would add brakes on the front wheels and reshape the handlebars for a more comfortable fit.</p>
<p><br/> <br/> <cite>Jan Carter said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.iknifecollector.com/group/themodernsurvivalist/forum/topic/show?groupUrl=themodernsurvivalist&id=3181080%3ATopic%3A1195234&xg_source=msg&page=2#3181080Comment1195544"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2770435745?profile=original" target="_self"><img width="721" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2770435745?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" class="align-full" width="721"/></a></p>
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</blockquote> Fantastic, Tobias! Makes gre…tag:iknifecollector.com,2014-09-23:3181080:Comment:11954822014-09-23T19:07:39.161ZHoward P Reynoldshttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/HowardPReynolds
<p>Fantastic, Tobias! Makes great sense. A long enough, and sturdy enough bar allows several people to push it along.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Tobias Gibson said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.iknifecollector.com/forum/topics/bicycles-and-survival?groupUrl=themodernsurvivalist&commentId=3181080%3AComment%3A1195549&xg_source=msg_com_gr_forum#3181080Comment1195549"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>The plus side of bikes is they can be used to carry the load while you walk along…</p>
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<p>Fantastic, Tobias! Makes great sense. A long enough, and sturdy enough bar allows several people to push it along.<br/> <br/> <cite>Tobias Gibson said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.iknifecollector.com/forum/topics/bicycles-and-survival?groupUrl=themodernsurvivalist&commentId=3181080%3AComment%3A1195549&xg_source=msg_com_gr_forum#3181080Comment1195549"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>The plus side of bikes is they can be used to carry the load while you walk along side. This was often the case on part of the ho chi mihn trail. The bike wasn't actually rode as much as pushed along allowing heavy weights to be moved easily by one person. Replace the handle bars with a broom stick or a bamboo pole and you can move a 75mm pack howitzer with a bicycle. All you need is some rope and imagination. Use a second bike to haul the ammunition.</p>
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</blockquote> The plus side of bikes is the…tag:iknifecollector.com,2014-09-23:3181080:Comment:11955492014-09-23T19:00:54.887ZTobias Gibsonhttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/TobiasGibson
<p>The plus side of bikes is they can be used to carry the load while you walk along side. This was often the case on part of the ho chi mihn trail. The bike wasn't actually rode as much as pushed along allowing heavy weights to be moved easily by one person. Replace the handle bars with a broom stick or a bamboo pole and you can move a 75mm pack howitzer with bicycles. All you need is some rope and imagination. </p>
<p>The plus side of bikes is they can be used to carry the load while you walk along side. This was often the case on part of the ho chi mihn trail. The bike wasn't actually rode as much as pushed along allowing heavy weights to be moved easily by one person. Replace the handle bars with a broom stick or a bamboo pole and you can move a 75mm pack howitzer with bicycles. All you need is some rope and imagination. </p> Part II. I hope that Jan's a…tag:iknifecollector.com,2014-09-23:3181080:Comment:11955482014-09-23T19:00:34.468ZHoward P Reynoldshttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/HowardPReynolds
<p>Part II. I hope that Jan's addition is made from PVC or Titanium pipe. If it's steel pipe, I don't think I could move it even empty.</p>
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<p>Part II. I hope that Jan's addition is made from PVC or Titanium pipe. If it's steel pipe, I don't think I could move it even empty.</p>
<p></p> I think I like this one becau…tag:iknifecollector.com,2014-09-23:3181080:Comment:11956372014-09-23T18:56:13.186ZJan Carterhttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/JanCarter
<p>I think I like this one because if you then have another regular bike you can transfer the rear load and trade off being the pushing or pulling a load. LOL, I am suggesting you walk the whole mess up the hill </p>
<p>I think I like this one because if you then have another regular bike you can transfer the rear load and trade off being the pushing or pulling a load. LOL, I am suggesting you walk the whole mess up the hill </p>