E.C.SIMMONS - iKnife Collector2024-03-28T09:32:20Zhttps://iknifecollector.com/forum/topics/e-c-simmons?groupUrl=kniferesearch&commentId=3181080%3AComment%3A1574030&groupId=3181080%3AGroup%3A306786&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThe standard Knife Collectors…tag:iknifecollector.com,2018-12-11:3181080:Comment:15740302018-12-11T16:13:04.395ZJan Carterhttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/JanCarter
<p>The standard Knife Collectors guide 4th edition page 282 says The EC Simmons Hardware company was organized in 1869 in St. Luis Mo. It adopted Keen Kutter as the trademark for a line of superior cutlery.</p>
<p>In 1940 the EC Simmons Company was taken over by Shapleigh Hardware Company, which continued the Keen Kutter brand until 1960 but did not continue the Simmons name.</p>
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<p>The standard Knife Collectors guide 4th edition page 282 says The EC Simmons Hardware company was organized in 1869 in St. Luis Mo. It adopted Keen Kutter as the trademark for a line of superior cutlery.</p>
<p>In 1940 the EC Simmons Company was taken over by Shapleigh Hardware Company, which continued the Keen Kutter brand until 1960 but did not continue the Simmons name.</p>
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<p><em><span> </span>Pocketknives...second edition by John E. Goins 1982<span> </span><br></br>Shapleigh Hardware Company c1843-1960 This company had it's start in 1843 when A. F. Shapleigh, then a junior partner of Rogers Bros. & Co. of philadelphia, brought to St. Louis a stock of goods to open a branch of that company. This branch was named the Rogers, Shapleigh & Company. In 1847 the company became Shapleigh, Day & Co. This name was used until 1863 when the firm became A. F.…</em></p>
<p><em><span> </span>Pocketknives...second edition by John E. Goins 1982<span> </span><br/>Shapleigh Hardware Company c1843-1960 This company had it's start in 1843 when A. F. Shapleigh, then a junior partner of Rogers Bros. & Co. of philadelphia, brought to St. Louis a stock of goods to open a branch of that company. This branch was named the Rogers, Shapleigh & Company. In 1847 the company became Shapleigh, Day & Co. This name was used until 1863 when the firm became A. F. Shapleigh & Co. The next year, 1864, Diamond Edge was adopted as the trademark for their tools and cutlery. The exact marking on these early knives is unknown at this time. In 1880 the name was the A. F. Shapleigh and Cantwell Hardware Company. This firm continued until 1888, when it became the A. F. Shapleigh Company. The next change in the company name occurred in about 1902. At this time, the company became the Norvell-Shapleigh Hardware Company. Saunders Norvell started with the E. C. Simmons Hardware in the late 1800's as a clerk. He was still a clerk in 1898, but by 1900 was a vice president of the Simmons firm. By 1902 he had changed to Shapleigh, and was president by 1907 of the Norvell-Shapleigh Hardware Company. The name once again reverted to A. F. Shapleigh Hardware Co. in about 1920. <span style="text-decoration: underline;">On July 1, 1940 Shapleigh purchased the E. C. Simmons Hardware. From this time until 1960, they used the old Simmons trademarks on their products, as a second line to the Diamond Edge trademark. They continued to do business until 1960 when the firm was sold. </span></em><span>The knives produced for this firm were marked on all blades until the middle 1940's. After this, they were marked on the master blade only.<strong> </strong></span><em>Some of the markings sold by Shapleigh were: Berkshire, Bridge Cutlery Co., Enders Oak Leaf, Diamond Edge(1864-1960) Keen Kutter(1940-1960), Empire Knife Co., NorShap (c1902-1920), Norvell-Shapleigh(c1902-1920), S Norvell(c1902-1920), Norvell's Best(c1902-1920), G. W. Putman & Co. Germany, Enterprise Cutlery Co., <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Simmons Hardware Co.(c1940-1960),</span> Simmons Sonny(c1940-1960), and J. Koester's Sons Germany."</em></p>
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<p>In Goings Encyclopedia of cutlery markings he seems to clarify this a little better PG 254</p>
<p>In 1940 The Shapleigh Hardware of St. Louis purchased the Simmons Hardware. Shapleigh continued to use the Simmons trademarks as a second line to their Diamond Edge brands. In 1960 Shapleigh was sold, and the Simmons and Shapleigh trademarks were discontinued.</p>
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<p>This suggests to me that Simmons was used until 1960</p> http://www.iknifecollector.co…tag:iknifecollector.com,2014-08-23:3181080:Comment:11830622014-08-23T12:06:21.784ZJan Carterhttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/JanCarter
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<p><span>Reply by </span><a class="fn url" href="http://www.iknifecollector.com/group/earlyamericancutleryhistory/forum/topic/listForContributor?user=3rddwij4igpjz">David L. Anthony</a><span> on </span><span class="timestamp">May 6, 2009</span></p>
<p><span class="timestamp"><span>I purchased an E. C. Simmons hardware, Philadelphia billhead and found something very interesting stamped on it. I have heard about this but never saw it before. Stamped in red ink on the bottom of the letter was the…</span></span></p>
<p><span>Reply by </span><a href="http://www.iknifecollector.com/group/earlyamericancutleryhistory/forum/topic/listForContributor?user=3rddwij4igpjz" class="fn url">David L. Anthony</a><span> on </span><span class="timestamp">May 6, 2009</span></p>
<p><span class="timestamp"><span>I purchased an E. C. Simmons hardware, Philadelphia billhead and found something very interesting stamped on it. I have heard about this but never saw it before. Stamped in red ink on the bottom of the letter was the following:</span><br/><br/><span>We, the undersigned do hereby gauranttee that the articles or commodities listed herein were purchased by us under a gauranty by the manufacturer that they were manufacutured in an extablishment in which within 30 days pior to the the removal of such product therefrom, no children under the age of 14 years were employed or permitted to work, nor children between the age of 14 years and 18 years were employed or permitted to work more than eight hours in any day or more than six days in any week, or after the hour of 7 o'clock p.m. or beofre the hour of 6 o'clock a.m.</span><br/><br/><span>This stems from the Federal Child Labor Act of 1917. My billhead is dated 1918.</span><br/><br/><span>It was ment to prevent comerce in the products of child labor. It was a way for the wholesaler to thwart an attempt to be sued for child labor. sounds like NIKE only in the early 1900's</span><br/><br/><br/><span>I find these things very interesting in the development of the cutlery industry as a whole. The language was not unique to E.C. Simmons. It was drafted as a boiler plate for any such business and was used by MANY for the same reasons.</span><br/><br/><span>_________________</span><br/><span>Author of "Tidioute: A Town With an Edge" available at Knife world, PocketKnife world, Cumberland Knife works, SMKW, Spaceport Cutlery and </span><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.amazon.com/">http://www.amazon.com</a><span> search word "Tidioute"</span></span></p> tag:iknifecollector.com,2014-07-04:3181080:Comment:11598232014-07-04T15:28:24.434ZJan Carterhttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/JanCarter
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