Favorite characters from cutlery history - iKnife Collector2024-03-29T01:10:03Zhttps://iknifecollector.com/forum/topics/favorite-characters-from-cutlery-history?groupUrl=vintageamericanknives&commentId=3181080%3AComment%3A1164963&groupId=3181080%3AGroup%3A17788&feed=yes&xn_auth=noyou know, this is still one o…tag:iknifecollector.com,2015-05-15:3181080:Comment:13177322015-05-15T23:44:22.579ZJan Carterhttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/JanCarter
<p>you know, this is still one of my favorite conversations</p>
<p>you know, this is still one of my favorite conversations</p> Reply by rebecca seiter on Ja…tag:iknifecollector.com,2014-07-12:3181080:Comment:11650202014-07-12T19:27:22.902ZJan Carterhttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/JanCarter
<p>Reply by rebecca seiter on January 16, 2011</p>
<p><span>I would have to say yes to little valley , but down the road just a little ways is WALDEN,N.Y. NEW YORK KNIFE CO.,WALDEN KNIFE CO., SCHRADE, ELECTRIC KNIFE CO. AND OTHERS.From the mid 1800s to mid 1900s new york state was the place to be anywhere in that state.I love the old cutlery co. knives,have recently purchased several new york knife co. knives.The internet has opened a whole new world of collecting for me.And i hope to pick…</span></p>
<p>Reply by rebecca seiter on January 16, 2011</p>
<p><span>I would have to say yes to little valley , but down the road just a little ways is WALDEN,N.Y. NEW YORK KNIFE CO.,WALDEN KNIFE CO., SCHRADE, ELECTRIC KNIFE CO. AND OTHERS.From the mid 1800s to mid 1900s new york state was the place to be anywhere in that state.I love the old cutlery co. knives,have recently purchased several new york knife co. knives.The internet has opened a whole new world of collecting for me.And i hope to pick up some history from you guys on somethings that books just does not cover.Collecting antique knives is my love and my passion for the hobby. THANKS FOR THIS SITE HAVE A GOOD DAY</span></p> If you could travel back in t…tag:iknifecollector.com,2014-07-12:3181080:Comment:11647782014-07-12T18:14:34.057ZJan Carterhttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/JanCarter
<h1>If you could travel back in time.....</h1>
<p><span>If you could travel back in time to any place in time (and location), what'd be your first stop?</span><br></br><br></br><span>How about dinner with Harvey Platts? Traveling the roads with the Case Brothers? Maybe sitting in on the congressional hearings with the heads of the leading knife companies appealing for higher tariffs against the European and German imports?</span></p>
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<p><strong>Reply by C. David Pierce CRL on May 6,…</strong></p>
<h1>If you could travel back in time.....</h1>
<p><span>If you could travel back in time to any place in time (and location), what'd be your first stop?</span><br/><br/><span>How about dinner with Harvey Platts? Traveling the roads with the Case Brothers? Maybe sitting in on the congressional hearings with the heads of the leading knife companies appealing for higher tariffs against the European and German imports?</span></p>
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<p><strong>Reply by C. David Pierce CRL on May 6, 2009</strong></p>
<p><strong><span>I've mused on this many a time and know that it would definitely have to be Andover, New York in the spring of 1907. There I would become aquainted with Charlie, Joe and Frank Platts and share first hand the birth pangs of their new enterprise, when hope and enthusiasm ran high. I'd bombard them with questions about quality standards and be at the factory to hold in my hand the first pocket knife finished by the assembly gang. Then I'd walk through the various departments to my hearts content watching exactly how the employees performed each operation and perhaps try my hand at it. Being able to observe the personal supervision of the Platts brothers at the cutlery would be the piece de resistance.</span></strong></p>
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<p>Reply by William Scott Stringham on May 5, 2009</p>
<p><span>Don't know if the story about Obadiah Barlow coming to America on the Mayflower is apocryphal or not. But </span><i><b><i>if</i></b></i><span>it's true, I'd like to have witnessed how well he put his talents to use once he settled and went to work American soil. Also curious whether he made larger pieces before he left England and if some of them were then used in that country's Puritan Revolution. Another early American knifemaker that I'd love to see the actual knives of (including the first Arkansas Toothpick) would be Jim Bowie. Proof of the original design of his famous Bowie knife would probably be worth something too (LOL).</span></p>
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<p><strong>Reply by Trent Rock on May 5, 2009 <br/></strong></p>
<p><strong><span>I'd like to play a game of billiards and have a shot of whiskey after work with these guys......</span><br/><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/trentrock/2945560081/" title="Robeson Cutlery Co. by Trent Rock's Visual Vices, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3216/2945560081_42ccf64f4c_o.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="Robeson Cutlery Co."/></a></strong></p>
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<p><strong>Reply by Wayne Koons on May 4, 2009</strong></p>
<p><span>Mike - Great thoughts! My Case Brothers 1904 catalog has the 8250's at 72.00. The highest of any knife, with 8 different handle materials available. Last year I seen a 8250 change hands at $5500.00</span></p>
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<p><span><span>Reply by </span><a href="http://www.iknifecollector.com/group/earlyamericancutleryhistory/forum/topic/listForContributor?user=0dlrch0yygumj" class="fn url">Roger Cunningham</a><span> on </span><span class="timestamp">May 1, 2009 </span></span></p>
<p><span>I think I`d use my trip on the time machine to go back to 1900 and hang around the Little Valley,NY area.I`d wear a coat with large pockets, they would be full for the trip back.</span></p>
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<p><span><span>Reply by </span><a href="http://www.iknifecollector.com/group/earlyamericancutleryhistory/forum/topic/listForContributor?user=3rddwij4igpjz" class="fn url">David L. Anthony</a><span> on </span><span class="timestamp">May 1, 2009</span></span></p>
<p><span>I think you have physic powers. I just submitted an article to Knife World on the Tariff hearings and all the major players. I found it to be extremely interesting. If you like I can send you the full version as Mark Z felt it a bit long for the publication. Neat stuff too. You need to quit reading my mind. It is getting a little weird LOL!!!!!!!!</span><br/><br/><span>I could do three more stories on this, but Mark said one was more than enough. Just not enough of us knife history nuts out there I guess.</span><br/><br/><span>David L. Anthony</span></p>
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<p></p> Reply by Larry Vickery on Jan…tag:iknifecollector.com,2014-07-12:3181080:Comment:11650472014-07-12T18:08:58.415ZJan Carterhttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/JanCarter
<p>Reply by Larry Vickery on January 23, 2011</p>
<p>Im all about the Baer brothers. </p>
<p>Leaving Camillus and purchasing Ulster and then Schrade, merging with Imperial and finally owning it all outright as well as also owning Camillus, There are many an untold story here. Albert and Henry were originals in the manufacturing and marketing field of cutlery. </p>
<p>Reply by Larry Vickery on January 23, 2011</p>
<p>Im all about the Baer brothers. </p>
<p>Leaving Camillus and purchasing Ulster and then Schrade, merging with Imperial and finally owning it all outright as well as also owning Camillus, There are many an untold story here. Albert and Henry were originals in the manufacturing and marketing field of cutlery. </p> Reply by Fred Feightner on Ju…tag:iknifecollector.com,2014-07-12:3181080:Comment:11650462014-07-12T18:08:30.683ZJan Carterhttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/JanCarter
<p><span>Reply by </span><a class="fn url" href="http://www.iknifecollector.com/group/earlyamericancutleryhistory/forum/topic/listForContributor?user=2tsuyeepsilh4">Fred Feightner</a><span> on </span><span class="timestamp">June 9, 2009</span></p>
<p><span class="timestamp"><span>Charles Platts is definitely at the top of my list, too, along with the Case Brothers. Their father, Job Case, is incredibly interesting to me. He was a land 'developer' who cleared huge tracts of lumber…</span></span></p>
<p><span>Reply by </span><a href="http://www.iknifecollector.com/group/earlyamericancutleryhistory/forum/topic/listForContributor?user=2tsuyeepsilh4" class="fn url">Fred Feightner</a><span> on </span><span class="timestamp">June 9, 2009</span></p>
<p><span class="timestamp"><span>Charles Platts is definitely at the top of my list, too, along with the Case Brothers. Their father, Job Case, is incredibly interesting to me. He was a land 'developer' who cleared huge tracts of lumber by </span><i><b>himself</b></i><span> - he must've been as tough as they come! He also held views on many topics that seemed to be quite ahead of his time. We have Job's original journal in our Zippo/Case Museum. Job's views were no doubt VERY different from those of his sons. Just for what it's worth...:)</span></span></p> Reply by David L. Anthony on …tag:iknifecollector.com,2014-07-12:3181080:Comment:11647732014-07-12T18:07:41.962ZJan Carterhttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/JanCarter
<p><span>Reply by </span><a class="fn url" href="http://www.iknifecollector.com/group/earlyamericancutleryhistory/forum/topic/listForContributor?user=3rddwij4igpjz">David L. Anthony</a><span> on </span><span class="timestamp">May 11, 2009</span></p>
<p><span class="timestamp"><span>Although it would be tough to debate that the Platt's wasn't indeed one of, if not the most influential cutlery icons of early American cutlery history, one does need to realize that others played significant roles…</span></span></p>
<p><span>Reply by </span><a href="http://www.iknifecollector.com/group/earlyamericancutleryhistory/forum/topic/listForContributor?user=3rddwij4igpjz" class="fn url">David L. Anthony</a><span> on </span><span class="timestamp">May 11, 2009</span></p>
<p><span class="timestamp"><span>Although it would be tough to debate that the Platt's wasn't indeed one of, if not the most influential cutlery icons of early American cutlery history, one does need to realize that others played significant roles as well. Looking at Mason's background (he worked at Northfield as well) you quickly understand that it was a large effort to "Americanise" the industry using a combination of English and German skills handed down many generations. Truly that is what happened. The Tariff's in the late 1800's just forced it upon us quicker I think. Thumbs up for both of these forefathers and many many more that gave us the simple but elegant tools we cherish today.</span><br/><br/><span>Remember Champlin bought his equipment from Beaver Falls, who got it from (WHO ELSE?) Samuel Mason. I used the google patent search for Mason and many he brought forth, Most for table ware though. Platt's truly did more for pocket cutlery I think.</span><br/><br/><span>Just a knife nerd spouting off to impress somebody, just not sure who LOL!!!!!!!</span></span></p> Reply by C. David Pierce CRL…tag:iknifecollector.com,2014-07-12:3181080:Comment:11650452014-07-12T18:07:08.976ZJan Carterhttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/JanCarter
<p>Reply by C. David Pierce CRL on May 6, 2009</p>
<p><span>No doubt about it, Charles H. Platts was the most highly skilled and influential Sheffield cutler ever to grace America's shores. He got his training at Joseph Rodgers and Sons and it showed! For 20 years he supervised the production of award winning cutlery at the Northfield Knife Co. , Northfield, CT</span><br></br><span>Each of his sons Charlie, H.N., Ray Joe and Frank were apprenticed at Northfield in the Sheffield fashion,so that each…</span></p>
<p>Reply by C. David Pierce CRL on May 6, 2009</p>
<p><span>No doubt about it, Charles H. Platts was the most highly skilled and influential Sheffield cutler ever to grace America's shores. He got his training at Joseph Rodgers and Sons and it showed! For 20 years he supervised the production of award winning cutlery at the Northfield Knife Co. , Northfield, CT</span><br/><span>Each of his sons Charlie, H.N., Ray Joe and Frank were apprenticed at Northfield in the Sheffield fashion,so that each could craft a pocket knife from hand forging to assembly,adhering to an exacting standard of quality. It was their commitment to excellence that was,in large part,responsible for the quality we so admire in the earlier products of Cattaraugus Cutlery Co. and W.R. Case and Sons Cutlery Co.</span></p> Reply by Mark Zalesky on May…tag:iknifecollector.com,2014-07-12:3181080:Comment:11649642014-07-12T18:06:43.609ZJan Carterhttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/JanCarter
<p><span>Reply by </span><a class="fn url" href="http://www.iknifecollector.com/group/earlyamericancutleryhistory/forum/topic/listForContributor?user=3qn93y3kmxzjn">Mark Zalesky</a><span> on </span><span class="timestamp">May 6, 2009 </span></p>
<p><span class="timestamp"><span>I will check out David's upload. Scott is forgiven for overlooking Sam Mason on account of Mason's American career ending about a quarter-century before the sunfish knife appears... :)</span><br></br><br></br><span>Binns and…</span></span></p>
<p><span>Reply by </span><a href="http://www.iknifecollector.com/group/earlyamericancutleryhistory/forum/topic/listForContributor?user=3qn93y3kmxzjn" class="fn url">Mark Zalesky</a><span> on </span><span class="timestamp">May 6, 2009 </span></p>
<p><span class="timestamp"><span>I will check out David's upload. Scott is forgiven for overlooking Sam Mason on account of Mason's American career ending about a quarter-century before the sunfish knife appears... :)</span><br/><br/><span>Binns and Mason is about as rare as it gets when it comes to American cutlery markings (when you measure a pre-1870 company's existence in months rather than years, it's gonna be a rare one!) I have not seen David's knife with the B&M/Pittsburgh stamp before, IMHO that's a wonderful knife in any condition.</span><br/><br/><span>Since we've already veered off on the Mason tangent, here's a Mason & Sons knife (albeit repinned and with a repointed master blade). This one is marked "Canton", the other one I have is a quill knife and it only has room for "Mason & Sons".</span><br/><br/><span>Mark Z</span><br/><br/></span></p>
<p><img src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2770418506?profile=original" alt="" width="720" height="185"/></p> Reply by David L. Anthony on …tag:iknifecollector.com,2014-07-12:3181080:Comment:11649632014-07-12T18:05:46.772ZJan Carterhttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/JanCarter
<p><span>Reply by </span><a class="fn url" href="http://www.iknifecollector.com/group/earlyamericancutleryhistory/forum/topic/listForContributor?user=3rddwij4igpjz">David L. Anthony</a><span> on </span><span class="timestamp">May 6, 2009</span></p>
<p><span class="timestamp"><span>The first knife isn't mine. I would love to own it, but it is owned by the great daughter of a fella that actually worked for B & M. NOT FOR SALE unfortunately. The other is mine. Oh yes it is a bit rough, but as…</span></span></p>
<p><span>Reply by </span><a href="http://www.iknifecollector.com/group/earlyamericancutleryhistory/forum/topic/listForContributor?user=3rddwij4igpjz" class="fn url">David L. Anthony</a><span> on </span><span class="timestamp">May 6, 2009</span></p>
<p><span class="timestamp"><span>The first knife isn't mine. I would love to own it, but it is owned by the great daughter of a fella that actually worked for B & M. NOT FOR SALE unfortunately. The other is mine. Oh yes it is a bit rough, but as my article "Mint Verses Everything Else" in Knife World, sometimes anything is better than nothing. As Mark Z will agree upon, they are TOUGH to find in any condition.</span><br/><br/><span>David</span></span></p> Reply by David L. Anthony on …tag:iknifecollector.com,2014-07-12:3181080:Comment:11649622014-07-12T18:05:18.839ZJan Carterhttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/JanCarter
<p><span>Reply by </span><a class="fn url" href="http://www.iknifecollector.com/group/earlyamericancutleryhistory/forum/topic/listForContributor?user=3rddwij4igpjz">David L. Anthony</a><span> on </span><span class="timestamp">May 6, 2009 </span></p>
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<p><span class="timestamp"><span>Seems to me you need to get rid of one of those Mason and Sons. I would be willing to…</span></span></p>
<p><span>Reply by </span><a href="http://www.iknifecollector.com/group/earlyamericancutleryhistory/forum/topic/listForContributor?user=3rddwij4igpjz" class="fn url">David L. Anthony</a><span> on </span><span class="timestamp">May 6, 2009 </span></p>
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<p><span class="timestamp"><span>Seems to me you need to get rid of one of those Mason and Sons. I would be willing to watch over it for you for a while LOL. I haven't been able to locate one. My B & M is in rough shape, but the real thing for sure. Here are some pics of my knife and the book you mentioned Mark.</span></span></p>