Supreme Court Second Amendment Decision a Win for Knife Owners - iKnife Collector2024-03-28T16:56:02Zhttps://iknifecollector.com/forum/topics/louisiana-switchblade-concealed-carry-ban-repeal-signed-effective?commentId=3181080%3AComment%3A1698703&xg_source=activity&feed=yes&xn_auth=noMr. Ritter,
Thank you for the…tag:iknifecollector.com,2022-06-25:3181080:Comment:16988832022-06-25T05:20:14.243Zdead_left_knife_guyhttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/deadleftknifeguy
<p>Mr. Ritter,</p>
<p>Thank you for the link. I was already planning on reading that article, but I'll give it higher priority, at your suggestion. I've given it a scan, and it looks like it has a lot of interesting information, and it's making an interesting assertion.</p>
<p>To be clear, my question specifically inquired about the repeals and preemeptions that had their legal basis in the Second Amendment; in other words, in order to be consistent with federal law (specifically, the Second…</p>
<p>Mr. Ritter,</p>
<p>Thank you for the link. I was already planning on reading that article, but I'll give it higher priority, at your suggestion. I've given it a scan, and it looks like it has a lot of interesting information, and it's making an interesting assertion.</p>
<p>To be clear, my question specifically inquired about the repeals and preemeptions that had their legal basis in the Second Amendment; in other words, in order to be consistent with federal law (specifically, the Second Amendment), or if it was merely the state declaring supremacy over city ordinances, because it can.</p>
<p>And not to belabor the point, but I'm really not confused about preemption. Cities and counties may be subject to state preemption, while states may be subject to federal preemption. Which is why 2A is the law of the land, and no state can go against that; and no state can declare an official religion, because of 1A, for example. And a state law generally supercedes a city ordinance when there's any conflict between the two. Did I write something that caused you to think I was confused about preemption?</p> Thanks. There is no doubt th…tag:iknifecollector.com,2022-06-25:3181080:Comment:16986212022-06-25T01:09:45.224ZDoug Ritterhttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/DougRitter
<p>Thanks. There is no doubt that most 2A related issues revolve around firearms. That is becuase that's where the most obvious fight is. I suggest you review the <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><a href="https://kniferights.org/legislative-update/knives-and-the-second-amendment-published/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">law review article "Knives and the Second Amendment</a></span>".</p>
<p>I think you may be a bit confused about preemption. If preemption wasn't related to…</p>
<p>Thanks. There is no doubt that most 2A related issues revolve around firearms. That is becuase that's where the most obvious fight is. I suggest you review the <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><a rel="nofollow noopener" href="https://kniferights.org/legislative-update/knives-and-the-second-amendment-published/" target="_blank">law review article "Knives and the Second Amendment</a></span>".</p>
<p>I think you may be a bit confused about preemption. If preemption wasn't related to 2A issues, then why do 42 states have firearm preemption laws? ;=) It was, and remains, a major issue in the 2A advocacy community A number of our preemption wins simply added "and knives" to existing firearm preemption statutes.</p>
<p>We are unique among 2A advocacy organizations in that we gain bipartisan support for many of our bills; each side of the aisle for their own reasons. Our representing a Second Amendment issue has been critical to our legislative success. But, the fact is that we often have to make the point initially with legislators and others the the Second Amendment doesn't say "firearms." It says "arms."</p>
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<p>Hope this helps.</p>
<p><br/> <cite>dead_left_knife_guy said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://iknifecollector.com/forum/topics/louisiana-switchblade-concealed-carry-ban-repeal-signed-effective?commentId=3181080%3AComment%3A1698703&xg_source=msg_com_forum#3181080Comment1698703"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>As I understand it, N.Y. State Rifle & Pistol Assn. v. Bruen finds that a person shall not be required to prove a special self-defense need in order to be allowed to carry a firearm for self-defense. While this applies beyond the State of New York, I don't know how many states this would apply to. Maybe there's more application to city ordinances, especially home-rule jurisdictions?</p>
<p>Of all the recent knife law repeals & preemptions (of which Knife Rights should rightly be proud), have any been repealed or enacted with a legal basis in the Second Amendment? This is a sincere question, as I haven't read all of the enactments & repeals. But I ask because knives have not really been treated as "arms" for purposes of the 2A throughout our country's history, and have been regulated in all manner of ways. </p>
<p>The necessity of state preemption laws to protect the rights of knife owners/carriers/users, generally speaking, even implies that knives aren't protected under the Second Amendment, as states can only give more rights than provided under the U.S. Constitution, and cannot curtail rights provided at the national level. If I understand the ultimate thrust of your argument (no pun intended), you're ultimately saying that the 2A should protect knives & none of these preemption laws and repeals should even be necessary -- but pragmatically, they're the best we can do in the shortest amount of time, correct?</p>
<p>Along those lines, again, thanks for all the work you & Knife Rights do.</p>
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</blockquote> As I understand it, N.Y. Stat…tag:iknifecollector.com,2022-06-25:3181080:Comment:16987032022-06-25T00:39:49.959Zdead_left_knife_guyhttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/deadleftknifeguy
<p>As I understand it, N.Y. State Rifle & Pistol Assn. v. Bruen finds that a person shall not be required to prove a special self-defense need in order to be allowed to carry a firearm for self-defense. While this applies beyond the State of New York, I don't know how many states this would apply to. Maybe there's more application to city ordinances, especially home-rule jurisdictions?</p>
<p>Of all the recent knife law repeals & preemptions (of which Knife Rights should rightly be…</p>
<p>As I understand it, N.Y. State Rifle & Pistol Assn. v. Bruen finds that a person shall not be required to prove a special self-defense need in order to be allowed to carry a firearm for self-defense. While this applies beyond the State of New York, I don't know how many states this would apply to. Maybe there's more application to city ordinances, especially home-rule jurisdictions?</p>
<p>Of all the recent knife law repeals & preemptions (of which Knife Rights should rightly be proud), have any been repealed or enacted with a legal basis in the Second Amendment? This is a sincere question, as I haven't read all of the enactments & repeals. But I ask because knives have not really been treated as "arms" for purposes of the 2A throughout our country's history, and have been regulated in all manner of ways. </p>
<p>The necessity of state preemption laws to protect the rights of knife owners/carriers/users, generally speaking, even implies that knives aren't protected under the Second Amendment, as states can only give more rights than provided under the U.S. Constitution, and cannot curtail rights provided at the national level. If I understand the ultimate thrust of your argument (no pun intended), you're ultimately saying that the 2A should protect knives & none of these preemption laws and repeals should even be necessary -- but pragmatically, they're the best we can do in the shortest amount of time, correct?</p>
<p>Along those lines, again, thanks for all the work you & Knife Rights do.</p>