Puma White Hunter - iKnife Collector2024-03-28T10:01:41Zhttps://iknifecollector.com/forum/topics/puma-white-hunter-1?commentId=3181080%3AComment%3A1696424&xg_source=activity&feed=yes&xn_auth=noProbably not issued to the mi…tag:iknifecollector.com,2022-03-18:3181080:Comment:16963682022-03-18T01:09:27.244ZJamie Hudsonhttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/JamieHudson
<p>Probably not issued to the military with the stag handle. My guess: 1956-1957</p>
<p>Probably not issued to the military with the stag handle. My guess: 1956-1957</p> Jamie Hudson said:
Looking…tag:iknifecollector.com,2022-03-16:3181080:Comment:16963532022-03-16T20:09:21.779ZJamie Hudsonhttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/JamieHudson
<p><br></br> <br></br> <cite>Jamie Hudson said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://iknifecollector.com/forum/topics/puma-white-hunter-1?page=1&commentId=3181080%3AComment%3A1696281&x=1#3181080Comment1696334"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Looking at the pictures, my knife is marked like the first on the left except it does not include the word "Germany" under the word PUMA and includes the letters "DBGM" under the logo. All markings are on the left side of the blade (holding the…</p>
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<p><br/> <br/> <cite>Jamie Hudson said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://iknifecollector.com/forum/topics/puma-white-hunter-1?page=1&commentId=3181080%3AComment%3A1696281&x=1#3181080Comment1696334"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Looking at the pictures, my knife is marked like the first on the left except it does not include the word "Germany" under the word PUMA and includes the letters "DBGM" under the logo. All markings are on the left side of the blade (holding the knife straight out in front of you). The words on the end of the blade "For The White Hunter" - "For The" is written above the words "White Hunter" - just like in the sales document at the bottom of the pictures. The sales document is the closest to mine except it is missing the DBGM under the logo. Maybe the one I have was <span>made for the armed forces, German Air Force pilots.</span></p>
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<p><span>On second thought, I am sure they did not use stag handles on the ones issued for the military. So a better guess would be 1956-57</span></p>
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</blockquote> WOW Vinnie! That is indeed a…tag:iknifecollector.com,2022-03-14:3181080:Comment:16963092022-03-14T18:50:03.420ZJan Carterhttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/JanCarter
<p>WOW Vinnie! That is indeed a great resource then. I sure would like to see that knife!</p>
<p>WOW Vinnie! That is indeed a great resource then. I sure would like to see that knife!</p> This has been a great discuss…tag:iknifecollector.com,2022-03-14:3181080:Comment:16963032022-03-14T05:07:14.596ZVinniehttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/Vinnie
<p>This has been a great discussion for me so far and provoked more research.</p>
<p>Despite having over 100 Puma knives, plus plenty of resources (Old Catalogues, Price Lists, Sales Brochures and Pamphlets etc) and having relied on info from other collectors for so many years some of the info that I have regarded as Gospel hasn't necessarily been correct although it has been logical.</p>
<p>I do know that "If in doubt, go to the source i.e Puma, Solingen" who are as helpful as possible but…</p>
<p>This has been a great discussion for me so far and provoked more research.</p>
<p>Despite having over 100 Puma knives, plus plenty of resources (Old Catalogues, Price Lists, Sales Brochures and Pamphlets etc) and having relied on info from other collectors for so many years some of the info that I have regarded as Gospel hasn't necessarily been correct although it has been logical.</p>
<p>I do know that "If in doubt, go to the source i.e Puma, Solingen" who are as helpful as possible but even their records are sketchy prior to the mid to late 1960's</p>
<p>For example, a few years back I acquired an old Puma that was unknown to any resource that I could find. Finally I sent photos and description to Solingen, and the reply was that there was no record of this knife ever having been made. I think "OK I got a fake or a knockoff copy (they do exist)" then a few weeks later I get more mail from Solingen. They tracked down a retired employee who remembered the production run and confirmed the knife as genuine but couldn't confirm any date better than sometime in the mid 1950's</p>
<p></p> OK I queried this with Puma S…tag:iknifecollector.com,2022-03-13:3181080:Comment:16960222022-03-13T23:14:51.875ZVinniehttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/Vinnie
<p>OK I queried this with Puma Solingen</p>
<p>DRGM and later changed to DBGM (R = Reich as opposed to B=Bund) indicates a German Patent. I always thought that it was a "Standard" but there you go.</p>
<p>Just another of those anomalies of older Puma Knives</p>
<p>In any case your knife is definitely one of the first iteration of the White Hunter and is therefore quite a desirable collectible.</p>
<p>And yes the German Air Force did use White Hunters as survival knives.</p>
<p>OK I queried this with Puma Solingen</p>
<p>DRGM and later changed to DBGM (R = Reich as opposed to B=Bund) indicates a German Patent. I always thought that it was a "Standard" but there you go.</p>
<p>Just another of those anomalies of older Puma Knives</p>
<p>In any case your knife is definitely one of the first iteration of the White Hunter and is therefore quite a desirable collectible.</p>
<p>And yes the German Air Force did use White Hunters as survival knives.</p> Looking at the pictures, my k…tag:iknifecollector.com,2022-03-13:3181080:Comment:16963342022-03-13T17:18:37.116ZJamie Hudsonhttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/JamieHudson
<p>Looking at the pictures, my knife is marked like the first on the left except it does not include the word "Germany" under the word PUMA and includes the letters "DBGM" under the logo. All markings are on the left side of the blade (holding the knife straight out in front of you). The words on the end of the blade "For The White Hunter" - "For The" is written above the words "White Hunter" - just like in the sales document at the bottom of the pictures. The sales document is the closest…</p>
<p>Looking at the pictures, my knife is marked like the first on the left except it does not include the word "Germany" under the word PUMA and includes the letters "DBGM" under the logo. All markings are on the left side of the blade (holding the knife straight out in front of you). The words on the end of the blade "For The White Hunter" - "For The" is written above the words "White Hunter" - just like in the sales document at the bottom of the pictures. The sales document is the closest to mine except it is missing the DBGM under the logo. Maybe the one I have was <span>made for the armed forces, German Air Force pilots.</span></p> More info. Most had "Genuine…tag:iknifecollector.com,2022-03-13:3181080:Comment:16964242022-03-13T05:45:04.884ZVinniehttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/Vinnie
<p>More info. Most had "Genuine Pumaster Steel Germany" as opposed to "Pumaster Steel".</p>
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<p>More info. Most had "Genuine Pumaster Steel Germany" as opposed to "Pumaster Steel".</p>
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<p></p> OK I knew I had this info som…tag:iknifecollector.com,2022-03-13:3181080:Comment:16962232022-03-13T02:15:46.116ZVinniehttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/Vinnie
<p>OK I knew I had this info somewhere.</p>
<p>From Puma.De Solingen (Thanks Julia, Puma Solingen PR/Sales for the translation)</p>
<p>The general production models of the White Hunter prior to late 1964 (as opposed to special commissions, limited runs etc) can be dated as follows.</p>
<p>1956/57 "For The White Hunter"</p>
<p>1957/58 "Puma White Hunter"</p>
<p>1958/59 "Puma White Hunter/Pumaster Steel"</p>
<p>1959 and on "White Hunter 6377/Pumaster Steel</p>
<p>OK I knew I had this info somewhere.</p>
<p>From Puma.De Solingen (Thanks Julia, Puma Solingen PR/Sales for the translation)</p>
<p>The general production models of the White Hunter prior to late 1964 (as opposed to special commissions, limited runs etc) can be dated as follows.</p>
<p>1956/57 "For The White Hunter"</p>
<p>1957/58 "Puma White Hunter"</p>
<p>1958/59 "Puma White Hunter/Pumaster Steel"</p>
<p>1959 and on "White Hunter 6377/Pumaster Steel</p> Here's a link. The top left i…tag:iknifecollector.com,2022-03-12:3181080:Comment:16962202022-03-12T22:40:24.441ZVinniehttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/Vinnie
<p>Here's a link. The top left image is of the oldest model (unfortunately it is not mine)</p>
<p><a href="https://classicpumaknives.com/white-hunter-pre-64/" target="_blank">https://classicpumaknives.com/white-hunter-pre-64/</a></p>
<p>Puma didn't introduce the Control Number system (Date Code) until late 1964, so older than that isn't necessarily easy to put a date on, but I still think yours is 1956~1958 based on the information you have provided. From around 1958 to early 1964 models were…</p>
<p>Here's a link. The top left image is of the oldest model (unfortunately it is not mine)</p>
<p><a href="https://classicpumaknives.com/white-hunter-pre-64/" target="_blank">https://classicpumaknives.com/white-hunter-pre-64/</a></p>
<p>Puma didn't introduce the Control Number system (Date Code) until late 1964, so older than that isn't necessarily easy to put a date on, but I still think yours is 1956~1958 based on the information you have provided. From around 1958 to early 1964 models were branded "Puma White Hunter" on the blade and variously "Puma Germany" or Puma Solingen" at the base of the blade</p>
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<p></p> Thanks for the information, V…tag:iknifecollector.com,2022-03-12:3181080:Comment:16962952022-03-12T22:06:28.119ZJamie Hudsonhttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/JamieHudson
<p>Thanks for the information, Vinnie. This helps confirm the date range for the knife.</p>
<p>Thanks for the information, Vinnie. This helps confirm the date range for the knife.</p>