Sheffield Cutlery hosted by Smiling - Knife Discussions - iKnife Collector2024-03-29T00:41:18Zhttps://iknifecollector.com/groups/group/forum?groupUrl=sheffield-cutlery&feed=yes&xn_auth=noSheffield Bowie Constructiontag:iknifecollector.com,2019-09-19:3181080:Topic:16066222019-09-19T20:10:14.596ZDavid Suitorhttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/DavidSuitor
<p>Hey Folks,<br></br>I'm a new member on iKC and I have an interest in mid 1800s Bowies made in Sheffield for the American market. I am currently making some Bowies for the reenactor market based on pictures and descriptions in various books. There are some things I can't glean with this approach and I put together some questions for those who have first hand knowledge:</p>
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<li>Where guards press fit??</li>
<li>Was cutler’s rosin used under handles??</li>
<li>What was the general blade…</li>
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<p>Hey Folks,<br/>I'm a new member on iKC and I have an interest in mid 1800s Bowies made in Sheffield for the American market. I am currently making some Bowies for the reenactor market based on pictures and descriptions in various books. There are some things I can't glean with this approach and I put together some questions for those who have first hand knowledge:</p>
<ul>
<li>Where guards press fit??</li>
<li>Was cutler’s rosin used under handles??</li>
<li>What was the general blade thickness of large Bowies (9”-12” blades)??</li>
<li>Did the large bowie blades have a distal taper??</li>
<li>Are the bevels on large Sheffield knives flat or convex<br/> (due to the large stone grinding wheels they used)?? </li>
<li>Do you folks know of any info on making paper mache scabbards??</li>
</ul>
<p>thanks for the help,</p>
<p>Dave Suitor</p> Happy New Year and Welcometag:iknifecollector.com,2017-01-20:3181080:Topic:14650482017-01-20T17:24:20.869ZSmiling-Knifehttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/SmilingKnife
<p>Belated Happy New Year Everyone. Welcome to all new members. Apologies for not being on board much last year. I'm hoping we can get this forum up and running again. Please feel free to post your photos, information and questions regarding Sheffield knives. Best wishes, Steve</p>
<p>Belated Happy New Year Everyone. Welcome to all new members. Apologies for not being on board much last year. I'm hoping we can get this forum up and running again. Please feel free to post your photos, information and questions regarding Sheffield knives. Best wishes, Steve</p> Perhaps-Last of the Big Bowies from England?tag:iknifecollector.com,2016-05-02:3181080:Topic:14165712016-05-02T23:26:28.214ZBrian LeClairhttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/BrianLeClair
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<p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2655290112?profile=original" target="_self"><img width="750" class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2655290112?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024"/></a></p> Looking for Information on this older Sheffieldtag:iknifecollector.com,2014-12-16:3181080:Topic:12394522014-12-16T12:00:40.125ZMike Baughhttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/MikeBaugh
<p>First of all let me say thank you for adding me to the group. I am fairly new to knife collecting, so please bear with me. </p>
<p>Here is an old girl I haven't been able to find any info on this one what-so-ever. Has anyone seen this or can let me in on some info about it? It's a Sheffield, Canada Confederation 1867-1967 . Any help would be great!…</p>
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<p>First of all let me say thank you for adding me to the group. I am fairly new to knife collecting, so please bear with me. </p>
<p>Here is an old girl I haven't been able to find any info on this one what-so-ever. Has anyone seen this or can let me in on some info about it? It's a Sheffield, Canada Confederation 1867-1967 . Any help would be great!</p>
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<p></p> THE METAL MANUFACTURES OF THE SHEFFIELD DISTRICTtag:iknifecollector.com,2014-08-03:3181080:Topic:11742822014-08-03T03:58:22.492ZJan Carterhttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/JanCarter
<p>This is interesting. Notice most of the women (or girls) in the industry at that time did not have regular job descriptions but then there are some that are foreman...</p>
<p>INDEX OF WITNESSES TO THE CHILDREN'S EMPLOYMENT COMMISSION (1862):<br></br> THE METAL MANUFACTURES OF THE SHEFFIELD DISTRICT <br></br><br></br> Page15<br></br>William Henry Widdicombe- 8 - grinder <br></br>James Higgins -7 - grinder <br></br>George Greaves -15 - grinder <br></br>William Holt - 20 Grinder <br></br>Thomas…</p>
<p>This is interesting. Notice most of the women (or girls) in the industry at that time did not have regular job descriptions but then there are some that are foreman...</p>
<p>INDEX OF WITNESSES TO THE CHILDREN'S EMPLOYMENT COMMISSION (1862):<br/> THE METAL MANUFACTURES OF THE SHEFFIELD DISTRICT <br/><br/> Page15<br/>William Henry Widdicombe- 8 - grinder <br/>James Higgins -7 - grinder <br/>George Greaves -15 - grinder <br/>William Holt - 20 Grinder <br/>Thomas Darwin - 6 grinder <br/>Thomas Darwin (adult) grinder <br/>William Brown - 47 <br/>Joseph Else (adult) fork-grinder <br/>Joseph Sanderson -49 fork-grinder <br/> Page16<br/>Thomas Roebuck - 38 fork-grinder <br/>John Sale - 10 fork-glazer<br/>John Brown - 15 fork-grinder<br/> Pageatrick Stavin - adult- fork-grinder<br/>Thomas Rider -11 - grinder<br/>George Hobson - 19 - grinder<br/>Henry Shawe - 10- buffer<br/>John Holt - 13 - glazer & polisher<br/>William Attersby - 39 - file-grinder<br/> Page17<br/>George Stevens - 15 - file-grinder<br/>Joseph Travis - 40+ - file-grinder<br/> Page18<br/>Edward Sotheran - 27 - sissor-grinder<br/>John Mason - adult - edge-tool grinder<br/>Samual Ellis - adult - plane grinder<br/>Henry Liddell - 14- grinder<br/>John Henry Write - 14 - file-grinder<br/> Page19<br/>George Swift - 16 - polisher<br/>Samuel Sharpe - adult - razor-grinder<br/>Edward Armitage -16- scissor-polisher<br/>George Hobson -adult- razor-grinder<br/>Mr James Bingham - adult- Manager<br/> Page20<br/>Mr. Joseph Mallinson - adult- Union Secratary<br/>Mr. Jonathen Wragg - adult- Union Secratary<br/> Page21<br/>William Dyson -adult- former sissor grinder<br/> Page22<br/>Benjamin Wildgoose -adult- shoe knife grinder<br/>Samuel Hind -54- grinder<br/>Thomas Redfern -adult- grinder<br/>Henry Birkin -13- glazer<br/>George Redfern -adult- grinder<br/> Page23<br/>John Brigg -adult- grinder<br/>Samuel Warner -19- grinder<br/>Joseph Broadhead -10- saw-glazer<br/>Walter Ibbotson -16- fork grinder<br/>???? Tingle -adult- fork maker & grinder<br/> Page24<br/>Charles Tingle -21- fork-grinder<br/>John Brook Greaves -14- glazer<br/>Keziah Bouldin -adult- wife of fork-grinder<br/>Ann Tingle -20- fork-filer<br/> Page25<br/>Sarah Ann Tingle -9- fork-filer<br/>George Burrows -adult- needle-pointer<br/>Maria Lansley -9- hand-fly operator<br/>Thomas Scholefield -11- <br/>Mr Joseph Robert Cocker -adult- manager<br/> Page26<br/>Mr Marsden -adult-<br/>Mr Charles Hernry Firth -adult- manager<br/>George William Ross -12- shove on<br/> Page27<br/>William Ross -adult- steel-roller<br/>William Henry Ray -10- Shove on<br/>Henry Stow -14- <br/>James Oxley -11- cellar boy<br/>John Holmes -13- heater<br/> Page28<br/>William Amos Blithe -13- mason<br/>Henry Gregory -13- cellar boy<br/>Mr J Ellis -adult-<br/> Page29<br/>William Crampton -10- <br/>William Strafford -13-<br/>Allan Bunce -16- pull down<br/>Thomas Cook -13- <br/>John Morris -14- striker<br/>William Smith -15- moulder<br/> Page30<br/>Edward Taylor -15- moulder<br/>John Coleridge -17- Polisher<br/>John Willey -adult- manager<br/>??? Rogers -12- <br/> Page31<br/>Mr. Joseph Peace -adult-<br/>John Cawthorpe -14- backer<br/>Pageatrick Manger -13- <br/>Henry Kay -10- riveter<br/> Page32<br/>Mr Ward - adult-<br/>George Allinsworth -9- cellar boy<br/>John Allinsworth -adult-<br/>Ellen Depledge -12-<br/>George Albert Parker -12-<br/>Mr. E.F.Sanderson -adult-<br/> Page33 <br/>John Smith -15- tilter<br/>Robert Newbert -14- <br/> Page34<br/>Mr Alfred B. Ibbotson - adult-<br/>George Batty -adult- working manager<br/>George Bagnall - adult- under manger<br/> Page35<br/>Thomas Bagley -12-<br/>Charles Stork -adult- file cutter<br/>George Greaves -adult- file cutter<br/> Page36<br/>George Ibbotson -adult- file cutter<br/>Thomas Blackburn -adult- file cutter<br/> Page37<br/>Mr H. Howard -adult- manager<br/>Jeremiah Haynes -12- <br/>Alfred Bishop -11- fire minder<br/> Page38<br/>Mr T.F. Cocker -adult-<br/>Martin Hefrin -11-<br/>James Dunagan -12-<br/>William Shorter -10-<br/>George Birkenshaw -130-<br/>Josh. Lambert -13-<br/>Mr. F.H.B. Beardshaw -adult-<br/> Page39<br/>James Baker -10-<br/>Thomas Darnall -15-<br/>Mr.T.B.Hawksworth -adult-<br/>John Edwin Saville -14-<br/>Joseph Chaworth -10-<br/>Mr Alfred Peace -adult-<br/>John Walter Dakin -11-<br/>Joseph Gavin -13-<br/>Mr J. Taylor -adult-<br/> Page40<br/>George Gardom -12-<br/>John Greaves -12-<br/>Charles Kay -15-<br/>Mr Daniel Parker -adult-<br/>Samuel Thompson -12-<br/>Samuel Fletcher -13-<br/>Thomas West -13-<br/>Mr. Richard Jukes -adult-<br/> Page41<br/>George Shepherd -12-<br/>Walter Shepherd - 10- <br/>Murkham Morris -12-<br/>William Reed -12-<br/>Frederick Brook -14-<br/>Thomas Phillips -adult-<br/>Richard Mittam -14-<br/>Emma Cheetham -7-<br/>Albert Spinks -11-<br/>Joseph Sellar -13-<br/> Page42<br/>Mr Robert Shirtcliffe -adult-<br/>Sophia Cockin -adult-<br/>Margaret Jane Sanderson -13-<br/>John Lovatt -9-<br/>Henry Slater -adult-<br/>Ellen Watson -11-<br/>William Watson -adult- cutler<br/>William Turner -12-<br/>John Leedham -14-<br/> Page43<br/>Mr John Unwin -adult-<br/>James Harrison -adult- table-knife hafters<br/>Walter Deakin -adult- table-knife hafters<br/>Samuel Hawley -adult- cutler<br/>Frederick Hawley -12-<br/> Page45<br/>Mr Francis Bownes -adult-<br/>Charles Allen -adult- scale cutter<br/> Page46<br/>Mr Newbold -adult-<br/>Henry Matthewman -17- cutler<br/>Henry Barkwell -12- ivory cutter<br/>James Roberts -14- polisher<br/>John Mason - 16- penknife maker<br/>William Richards -12-<br/>Mark Rutter -adult- blade forger<br/>William Dickinson -15- heater<br/>Mr George Beeley -adult- manager<br/> Page47<br/>Mr William Harrison -adult-<br/>Mr Wilkinson -adult- (of J Wilkinson & Sons)<br/>Mr. (Wm) Hutton -adult-<br/> Page48<br/>Roberet Furness -10-<br/>Herbert Shaw -13-<br/>Mr Henry Wilkinson -adult-<br/>Ruth Hobson -14-<br/>Peter Palue -12-<br/> Page49<br/>Messrs Dixon<br/>Sarah Jane Egg -15-<br/>Emily Lee -14-<br/>Edwin Lee -11-<br/>Edwin White -11-<br/>William Watkin -11-<br/>Martha Abb Segwell -12-<br/>George Henry Harley -13-<br/>Elizabeth Hay -17-<br/> Page50<br/>Mr F. Sibray -adult- manager<br/>Joseph Hutchinson -10-<br/>Charles Gandley -11-<br/>John Henry Drabble -12-<br/>Annie Swallow -13-<br/>Mr Guest -adult-<br/> Page51<br/>Thomas Gaynon -10-<br/>Janes Brooks -12-<br/>Joseph Simmenhite -15-<br/>Edward Woodfield -13-<br/>John Connigan -8-<br/>William Snow -adult-<br/>Mr Thomas Stansbury -adult- manager<br/><br/> Page52<br/>Mr J.T. Pigott -adult-<br/>Mr Michel Thonas Sadlier -adult- medical officer<br/>Benjamin Bagnall -15-<br/>Sarah Hopkins -13-<br/> Page53<br/>Eliza Siddell -16-<br/>Annie Hall -11-<br/>Sarah Ellen Thompson -9-<br/>Mr G. Bassett -adult-<br/> Page54<br/>Francis Winsley -adult- foreman<br/>Mary Madin -12-</p> Snake Brand - *Sheffield*tag:iknifecollector.com,2014-06-05:3181080:Topic:11462562014-06-05T02:13:48.862ZJacob Whitehttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/JacobWhite
<p>Here a few photos of a knife I recently bought. I really don't know much about it. Jan Carter suggested I post on this page to see if anyone knows about it. Anyone know about its age or anything else?</p>
<p>Here a few photos of a knife I recently bought. I really don't know much about it. Jan Carter suggested I post on this page to see if anyone knows about it. Anyone know about its age or anything else?</p> Sheffield Fixed Blade Knivestag:iknifecollector.com,2013-09-21:3181080:Topic:9656562013-09-21T08:33:35.328ZSmiling-Knifehttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/SmilingKnife
<p>Hi Everyone. Please post your Sheffield made fixed blade knives here. I was fortunate enough to find this little beauty yesterday. I think it dates to the late 1800s. The Taylors Eyewitness name and trademark were owned by Needham, Veall and Tyzack. Looking forward to seeing your knives.…</p>
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<p>Hi Everyone. Please post your Sheffield made fixed blade knives here. I was fortunate enough to find this little beauty yesterday. I think it dates to the late 1800s. The Taylors Eyewitness name and trademark were owned by Needham, Veall and Tyzack. Looking forward to seeing your knives.</p>
<p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2655239246?profile=original" target="_self"><img width="750" class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2655239246?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024"/></a></p> 19TH CENTURY BIG STAG CATTLE/SPORTSMAN KNIFE BY SHEFFIELD CUTLERY-FOUR ACREtag:iknifecollector.com,2013-01-29:3181080:Topic:7763782013-01-29T01:49:06.855ZRick Hooperhttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/RickHooper
<p>This is a big stag four blade cattle type pattern in a sportsman configuraton. It has a long pull master clip marked SHEFFIELD CUTLERY , while the smaller blades are marked FOUR ACRE. The bar shield is marked GEO. A. TOWNSEND. I purchased this with a lot of 150 other knives about a decade ago, being the high bidder in a New York state estate auction. I have recently given this to my daughter , it is in excellent condition. She requested I dig up a little history on this knife. Levine gives a…</p>
<p>This is a big stag four blade cattle type pattern in a sportsman configuraton. It has a long pull master clip marked SHEFFIELD CUTLERY , while the smaller blades are marked FOUR ACRE. The bar shield is marked GEO. A. TOWNSEND. I purchased this with a lot of 150 other knives about a decade ago, being the high bidder in a New York state estate auction. I have recently given this to my daughter , it is in excellent condition. She requested I dig up a little history on this knife. Levine gives a listing for Sheffield Cutlery Co-operative Society Limited begining in 1893. However since the knife does not have ENGLAND as country of origin, I believe this is a earlier company or the same unorganized. A search has turned up a four acre nook area near Sheffield, with several bladesmith and filesmiths listed living in the area in the 1840-1860 era. I believe the owner, Townsend purchased the knife during the Civil War years , returning late in the war. I believe the forum members may have a little infomation to add,concerning the FOUR ACRE stamping as this is very unusual and your thoughts are appreciated. Thank You, Rick</p> The Early Days of Sheffield Cutlery - Historical Factstag:iknifecollector.com,2012-05-29:3181080:Topic:6400212012-05-29T23:09:11.229ZSteve Hannerhttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/HogHanner
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<li> The very early Sheffield knives carried the stamp "GR". The initials belong to King George and Green River Knives.</li>
<li>Knifemaker, Ted Dowell, served as a gunnery officer on the USS Missouri, a navy ship during the Korean War.</li>
<li>1,400 cutlery factories were in Sheffield in 1910.</li>
<li>Ruffin Johnson was a Guild knifemaker known early on by the moniker of "El Lobo Solo" (Spanish for lone wolf).</li>
<li>Upon completion of 50 years of service each Joseph, Rodgers and…</li>
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<ul>
<li> The very early Sheffield knives carried the stamp "GR". The initials belong to King George and Green River Knives.</li>
<li>Knifemaker, Ted Dowell, served as a gunnery officer on the USS Missouri, a navy ship during the Korean War.</li>
<li>1,400 cutlery factories were in Sheffield in 1910.</li>
<li>Ruffin Johnson was a Guild knifemaker known early on by the moniker of "El Lobo Solo" (Spanish for lone wolf).</li>
<li>Upon completion of 50 years of service each Joseph, Rodgers and Sons Limited, employee was presented with a 5" tall silver statue of Vulcan holding the Rodgers trademark of a 6 pointed star and Maltese Cross.</li>
<li>The obverse side of the blade is the front or display side bearing the makers mark.</li>
<li>Knifemaker Red Watson's first name was Quinton.</li>
<li>In 19th century Sheffield the men who worked knifegrinders feared grinders asthma, grinders consumption, shattering grindestones, all which could kill a worker.</li>
<li>Harvey McBurnette stated, "Is knifemaking an art? I feel that anything done well is an art, be it a Rembrandt, a custom knife or the Golden Gate Bridge. In short, what is art? More important, what isn't?"</li>
<li>A cross guard has two quillons.</li>
<li>According to The Knifemakers Guild Directory of the Membership, Bob Dozier is the son of a blacksmith.</li>
<li>The tool used by many Sheffield cutlers to put inlay holes in mother-of-pearl scales or to drill holes in scales is known as the parser or parsey.</li>
<li>The first female knifemaker to apply for membership in the Knifemakers Guild was Carolyn Tinker at the 1974 Guild Show. However, there was also another female maker who applies for membership at the 1974 show. Her name was Mary Jean.</li>
<li>The term pocket knife originally referred to a knife with blades opening at one end only. </li>
<li>Jon Kirk and John Applebaugh were founding members of the Knifemakers Guild.</li>
<li>In old Sheffield, a bolster was cast or forged from nickel, iron or brass and had a projection used to tommy it to the liner. In this instance, to tommy means to rivet.</li>
<li>Xylonite was the first of many types of imitation ivory.</li>
<li>Knives with handles by burning an imitation tortoise shell pattern into clear horn with lye were known as spotted penknives.</li>
<li>The Daguello, the tune Santa Anna adopted to signify no quarter would be given to the defenders of the Alamo, was originally used by the Moorish invaders of Spain.</li>
<li>Harry Brearley, 1913, discovered stainless steel.</li>
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<p>Our thanks to our friends at Blade Magazine for this interesting collection of facts about Sheffield and the early days of the Knifemakers Guild.</p> Sheffield Cutlerytag:iknifecollector.com,2012-05-28:3181080:Topic:6352142012-05-28T14:05:51.884ZM. Carpenterhttps://iknifecollector.com/profile/MCarpenter
<p>A relatively new book is Tweedales Directory of Sheffield Cutlery Manufacturers 1740-2010 on lulu.com</p>
<p>It's worth looking at. We currently have more of Trevor Ablett's knives on <a href="http://www.sheffield-gb.com">http://www.sheffield-gb.com</a> Trevors knives are in high demand and we had to sweeten the deal with a pot of my wife's marmalade this time!</p>
<p>Finding old Sheffield made knives is really difficult these days even scouring the london antique markets is not very…</p>
<p>A relatively new book is Tweedales Directory of Sheffield Cutlery Manufacturers 1740-2010 on lulu.com</p>
<p>It's worth looking at. We currently have more of Trevor Ablett's knives on <a href="http://www.sheffield-gb.com">http://www.sheffield-gb.com</a> Trevors knives are in high demand and we had to sweeten the deal with a pot of my wife's marmalade this time!</p>
<p>Finding old Sheffield made knives is really difficult these days even scouring the london antique markets is not very productive.</p>