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A group dedicated to knives and equipment used by Scouts, Hikers, Fishers, Sailors and all the other outdoor adventurers.  A place to show off everything from  the knife in your bug-out bag to your tackle box. Or the knife you take on a day hike or climbing the Matterhorn.

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Lures (artificial bait) of the Great Out\doors

Started by Tobias Gibson. Last reply by Jan Carter Sep 13, 2017. 22 Replies

I am by no expert on fishing lures, new or old, but my latest trip to Dowagiac, Michigan, home of the Original Heddon Lures peaked my interest. I suspect others out there either use or collect …Continue

Low Priced But Good Quality Scout Knife?

Started by Tobias Gibson. Last reply by D ale Aug 25, 2017. 31 Replies

I was recently asked to recommend a low priced but good quality Scout knife.  Well I've purchased just about every scout knife I could find that is currently being produced.  Currently the only two I…Continue

Join and like the group and possibly win a knife or two

Started by Tobias Gibson. Last reply by Steve Scheuerman (Manx) Aug 21, 2017. 12 Replies

Let's see how many people are here and how many more people can be enticed to join! We're at 90 members now but only 20 of us has "liked" the group.  I'm looking to get at least  140 members and 100…Continue

Axes (and Adzes, Cleavers, Kukris, Machetes, Saws, Tomahawks & Ulus) — — Hosted by Andy Voelkle "AxeMan"

Started by Jan Carter. Last reply by Jay Apr 25, 2017. 105 Replies

Blades larger than standard fixed and folding knives. In other words, the top 90% or more of all the knives in use..…Continue

Tags: Saws, Tomahawks, &, Ulus), Machetes

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Comment by Andrew Roy on September 29, 2014 at 13:31

Wow.  Absolutely not what I was writing about. 

Comment by Tobias Gibson on September 29, 2014 at 9:21

Andrew's comment was actually moved to another thread (USA vs. the Worldhttp://www.iknifecollector.com/forum/topics/usa-versus-the-world-th...

Some residual comments are also showing up here. 

Comment by Alexander Noot on September 29, 2014 at 8:39

Wow, i've been missing some interesting discussion!

Comment by Andrew Roy on September 29, 2014 at 8:28

What are we talking about here? 

Comment by peter force on September 27, 2014 at 1:29

YOTAS are all i buy..and all i have ever driven..i know nothing about cars at all..just that my YOTAS have never let me down!  THEY RUN FOREVER...all 3 i have had over 200k..and some went months and months without oil changes..as im terrible with taking care of my vehicles...


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Comment by Charles Sample on September 26, 2014 at 22:17

Shlomo, I once read that the car with the largest percentage of American made parts is not a Ford or Chevy, but the Toyota Camry.

I do know that my son builds Toyota engines in Huntsville, Alabama.

Comment by Shlomo ben Maved on September 26, 2014 at 20:47

The problem is that "Made in the USA" does not guarantee you anything including place of manufacture...I've gotten pure, unadulterated, crap with "Made in the USA" emblazoned across the article and packaging.

Many European and Asian companies set up shops in the USA so they can compete for government and other contracts--Beretta, FN, H&K etc. as examples.

Using a knife as an example the company will make the blade, crossguard, bolster and endcap in their European plant, have the scales made in another location, the sheath maybe in Mexico (ala Ka-Bar), the boxes in China and everything sent to a building in some small, depressed town in the South where the company has hired a dozen locals to assemble and package the goods and send them to retailers...They get to put "Made in the USA" on their boxes where only minimum wage was paid to some Americans, paid some state and local utilities and taxes but the whole profits went to the parent company...Is that knife (or whatever) really "Made in the USA"

At least GM/Toyota state on the windscreens of some of their Toyota cars "Assembled in the USA".

Comment by Andrew Roy on September 26, 2014 at 9:50

Cool.  Thanks Jan.  Can you send me a link to it?

Comment by Jan Carter on September 26, 2014 at 6:55

Andy I am going to copy this to another part of iKC also.  You have said in much better words and first hand experience what I have been saying.  Not that I have anything against a good knife made anywhere, but this IS the reason I choose to try for USA made.  It is also what made Donnie and I begin to look at the handmade knives about a year ago

Comment by Andrew Roy on September 26, 2014 at 6:33

I like to think what you are paying for when you buy a handmade knife is the ability of the maker to support himself with his hands. 

Think of the renaissance of craftsmanship that is going on in America with knives, woodworking, pen turning, etc.  Its an amazing thing to see.  If you've ever seen a Bruce Bump knife, then you know that there truly are Master Craftsmen in the here and now. 

While I am no master and no Bruce Bump, I have been able to support myself and my family since a layoff on May 1 2009 with full time knifemaking.  Since then my company has grown, we've moved into a facility seperate from my home, and I now employ 7 folks (including me) at Fiddleback Forge. 

What does that require?  It requires constant revenue, and the prices have to produce profits.  Period.  What I try to do is keep the prices as low as I can so that I can sell to the user market which is bigger.  That means that every time I add a cost, I have to add knives to the week to offset it/him/her.  When I stared full time work, I made 6 knives a week.  Then jumped to ten or 12, then hired folks and nowadays we make 42 knives a week. 

Then you have to be able to sell them.  This is where I got lucky.  I didn't know this back when I was an engineer, but I am very good at marketing and branding.  My knives aren't master works, they are good outdoor tools, but when it comes to branding and marketing, I'm a fish in water. 

Steel types draw certain folks and repel certain folks.  I, personally don't like stainless steels.  Soulless and lifeless and sterile even after years of use.  I also don't like damascus steels because of cold shuts and not knowing what the edge is comprised of.  I prefer good old homogenous 01 steel.  Easiest steel to sharpen and takes a great edge.  Some folks have a prejudice against 440C (undeserved, but true).  Some folks don't ever want rust.  I don't think its the steel that drives the price though.  I think folks are drawn to what they are comfortable using and sharpeining. 

IMO, what you are paying for is keeping Americans working with their hands.  Sure, you can always go get a Mora knife and by God it does everything any of mine will do and cost $295 less.  That extra $ isn't wasted though.  It keeps 7 of us working with our hands, and helps us donate funds to help 3 different kids with horrible medical issues pay their medical bills.  IMO, its money well spent, but then again, I'm kinda biased.

 
 
 

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