My earlier description was based on a leverlock .. relative to the interaction between closed & open locking positions. Being a lockback .. this relationship will likely not exist in your buttonlock.
The sear pin relationship with it's associated "interfering surface" of the blade still exists ..and.. the fixes the same as I described.
Ken .. what you describe is an unfortunate shortcoming w/ many autos. It's referred to as "blade peeking" .. where the tip of the blade is peeking outside the frame of the knife.
.
Both Muskratman & Bill DeShivs would be capable of the repair. Both have excellent reputations. Neither will be inexpensive .. skill comes with an appropriate fee. Neither may even wish to take on the repair. While it is common .. the fix is not always easy.
.
The fix involves dis-assembly ..and therefore.. successful re-assembly. Often .. the sear pin will require peening. This is a hardened part. You can not just start "smacking" on it w/o breakage being the result.
.
The peeking issue stems from the relationship / interaction between the sear pin & associated slot in the blade itself. To further complicate, there's also interaction with the frame.
.
A worn sear pin surface could & would cause the locking action to occur when the knife is (quite unfortunately) slightly open ..hence.. the blade tip peeks outside the safe confines of the frame. Material could be added to the sear pin ..or.. peening could be implemented to change the profile of the sear pin ..BUT.. replacement is a far more realistic approach.
.
It should be noted .. whatever is implemented to effect the closed locking position has the high likelihood of effecting the open locking position. This type of repair really should be left in the hands of experience. Experience that has exposed & taught the subtle interactions between the 2 locking positions.
Thanks for joining our "Knife Repair, Modification, Restoration & Improvement" group. There's a good group of folks there .. collectively yrs & yrs of experience .. got a question .. pose it to the group & someone will step up to the plate. Enjoy the day !!! D ale
Welcome, and thanks for joining IKC, the “next generation of knife collectors”. Scott King the founder and brainchild of this forum as well as Elephant Toe Nails www.ellephanttoenails.com , his collecting obsession as you can see there And he the founder and editor, contributor of almost all content and at large of Cutlery News Journal www.cutlerynewsjournal.com – Enjoy, I have been a member since September ’09 and found it educational and fun. I have seen custom knife maker’s bloom and seen posting from knife legends like A.G. Russell. I see collector that are new here with 50 years collecting under their belt and those like me seriously collecting for three or four years. So there is something for everyone. The custom knife maker, the folder collector the hunter collector and those like me who have a passion for them all and have not discovered my niche. Most of all – ask and dig in….. There is a wealth of knowledge at your fingertips here.
Happy New Year and May God Bless!
Frank
Hey Kenneth
Thanks for joining our knife community. If you have any questions as you look around, please let me know. I think you'll like it here.
Welcome!
Scott
hey Kenneth good to see a fellow Hoosier on iKC! i am from Hobart, Indiana, and am also a memeber of the Indiana Residents group! come by and check us out! add a comment, or start a discussion of your own! hope to see you soon!! i make custom knives, there are a few of us on here from Indiana! you need anything just ask!!
Hi Kenneth...Welcome to iKC. There is alot of good info here along with a good bunch of people. You might want to join the "Indiana Residents Group". I'm from Greenfield myself..so we are not very far from each other. Matter of fact I'm in Fishers almost every Thursday because my good friend owns the Greeks Pizza shop there on 116th st. If you have any questions or need any help just ask me or anyone here.
Kenneth W. Gigax's Comments
Comment Wall (18 comments)
You need to be a member of iKnife Collector to add comments!
Join iKnife Collector
In MemoriamD ale said…
Ken .. I just re-read your original post.
My earlier description was based on a leverlock .. relative to the interaction between closed & open locking positions. Being a lockback .. this relationship will likely not exist in your buttonlock.
The sear pin relationship with it's associated "interfering surface" of the blade still exists ..and.. the fixes the same as I described.
Got a pic by chance ???
In MemoriamD ale said…
Hope that helps, Ken.
Thanks for asking.
D ale
In MemoriamD ale said…
Ken .. what you describe is an unfortunate shortcoming w/ many autos. It's referred to as "blade peeking" .. where the tip of the blade is peeking outside the frame of the knife.
.
Both Muskratman & Bill DeShivs would be capable of the repair. Both have excellent reputations. Neither will be inexpensive .. skill comes with an appropriate fee. Neither may even wish to take on the repair. While it is common .. the fix is not always easy.
.
The fix involves dis-assembly ..and therefore.. successful re-assembly. Often .. the sear pin will require peening. This is a hardened part. You can not just start "smacking" on it w/o breakage being the result.
.
The peeking issue stems from the relationship / interaction between the sear pin & associated slot in the blade itself. To further complicate, there's also interaction with the frame.
.
A worn sear pin surface could & would cause the locking action to occur when the knife is (quite unfortunately) slightly open ..hence.. the blade tip peeks outside the safe confines of the frame. Material could be added to the sear pin ..or.. peening could be implemented to change the profile of the sear pin ..BUT.. replacement is a far more realistic approach.
.
It should be noted .. whatever is implemented to effect the closed locking position has the high likelihood of effecting the open locking position. This type of repair really should be left in the hands of experience. Experience that has exposed & taught the subtle interactions between the 2 locking positions.
In MemoriamD ale said…
Thanks for joining our "Knife Repair, Modification, Restoration & Improvement" group. There's a good group of folks there .. collectively yrs & yrs of experience .. got a question .. pose it to the group & someone will step up to the plate. Enjoy the day !!! D ale
Happy Birthday!
Welcome, and thanks for joining IKC, the “next generation of knife collectors”. Scott King the founder and brainchild of this forum as well as Elephant Toe Nails www.ellephanttoenails.com , his collecting obsession as you can see there And he the founder and editor, contributor of almost all content and at large of Cutlery News Journal www.cutlerynewsjournal.com – Enjoy, I have been a member since September ’09 and found it educational and fun. I have seen custom knife maker’s bloom and seen posting from knife legends like A.G. Russell. I see collector that are new here with 50 years collecting under their belt and those like me seriously collecting for three or four years. So there is something for everyone. The custom knife maker, the folder collector the hunter collector and those like me who have a passion for them all and have not discovered my niche. Most of all – ask and dig in….. There is a wealth of knowledge at your fingertips here.
Happy New Year and May God Bless!
Frank
In MemoriamScott King said…
Thanks for joining our knife community. If you have any questions as you look around, please let me know. I think you'll like it here.
Welcome!
Scott
KnifeMakerCaptJeff Saylor said…
hey Kenneth good to see a fellow Hoosier on iKC! i am from Hobart, Indiana, and am also a memeber of the Indiana Residents group! come by and check us out! add a comment, or start a discussion of your own! hope to see you soon!! i make custom knives, there are a few of us on here from Indiana! you need anything just ask!!
Captain, CJS knives!!
Welcome to
iKnife Collector
Sign Up
or Sign In
Or sign in with:
White River Knives
Latest Activity
Vintage American Knives
KnifeMakerDoug Ritter posted discussions
Louisiana Preemption Bill Passes Senate Comm – House Preemption Bill Introduced
Knife Rights Idaho Knife Law Preemption Bill Passed - Off to Governor
EGW (Ezra G. Waterman) Knives
Get a New Kershaw Iridium for $3? Join my Patreon page
Featureddead_left_knife_guy posted a discussion
Blade HQ Free Shipping 3/23 & 3/24!
Featureddead_left_knife_guy posted photos
Visit Lee' s Cutlery
KNIFE AUCTIONS
KNIFE MAGAZINE!!!
tsaknives.com
JSR Sports!
Click to visit