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Three implements from Buck Knives will debut at the Outdoor Retailer trade show this week, including a knife, a hatchet, and a “chopping froe.” They will go on sale in 2015.
Each is made in the USA. The tools are all treated with a red powdercoat finish for rust and corrosion resistance.
Compadre camp knife
The 104 Camp Knife has full-tang construction and a 5160 steel blade that’s 9.5 inches long. Its handle is made of walnut. It will cost $80.
A hatchet, the 106 Compadre model, has a 5160 steel head and a walnut-dymondwood handle. It comes with a leather sheath and weighs about 24 ounces. MSRP when available will be $120.
Compadre Hatchet
Finally, the 108 Compadre Chopping Froe is, Buck cites, a multi-purpose wood working tool. Its 9.5-inch steel blade was built for clearing brush and heavy wood chopping.
Chopping Froe
But the machete-like tool, which measures almost 17 inches long, weighs less than 2 pounds. It will cost $160 when Buck ships to consumers and stores in early 2015. —Stephen Regenold
Ron cooper, that is *not* an automatic (although I wish I had one in my collection) that is a Buck 110 Master series, what looks like a push button is actually the Master Series badge
LIFETIME MEMBER OF BUCK COLLECTORS CLUB HAVE ALL HARLEY KNIVES MANY WERE MADE BY BUCK EITHER IN 110S OR BOWIES UP TILL 100TH ANN. HAVE WORKSHOP BOWIE AND OTHERS AND QUITE A FEW OLD CUSTOM SHOP
In this picture I have a 30th anniversary green 110 with Chucks picture, a custom finger grooved 110 with nickel posters and indigo wood scales, a 119, a pathfinder, I also have a 40th anniversary finger grooved 110. I would like to get some information on a titanium or aluminum partially skeletonized scales/handle 110, I seem to have seen once upon a time.
Hello to all the Buck Enthusiasts on IKC. Before I begin, let me say I do not actively collect Buck Knives, I came across the knife pictured below on Ebay a couple weeks ago and bought it without investigating (always a bad idea) Right after completing the deal I realized the knife was going to ship from China! Strike Two!
When it arrived I realized that it was actually a very solid, extremely well made knife. Definitely on par with other bucks I've purchased that were made in China (For instance my Buck Whittaker.)
My question: Is this knife a Buck or not. The person selling clearly stated it was made in China yet the blade says Buck U.S.A. The box is identical to other Buck Knives I've bought. And, as i said the quality it there. But is it actually knife made by Buck?
The knife is 3.5 inches closed. It has a 2.5 inch blade. While it is not too obvious but the lanyard hole can act as flat head screwdriver or small pry. And the back end is cap lifter
A clearer view of the blade markings BUCK U.S.A. X44
and the laser etched Buck and the words Buck Jabes Cutlery?
Hard to see but the very thick liner lock.
As I said, the knife is rock solid. But as I've never seen it before I'm curious if it is legitimate Buck.
I have never seen that. I looked on the Buck site and didn't see any thing like that. I know there are a lot of Buck counterfeits on eBay. Usually if they say saber or hunting in the description, they are usually counterfeit. I did the same thing thinking SOG had come out with a new model. It ended up being a counterfeit.
funny thing is, I spent $5 for the knife. It is well worth about twice that with no problem, regardless is it is a genuine Buck or a Buck Rogers! So if it is a counterfeit, the guy is the in wrong business!
Remember that Buck didn't stop A L L production of their knives from the Orient just a large percentage so there are legitimate models being produced in China (PRC) to this day.
Since Buck has never had it listed in their catalogue then what you've got is a 100%, genuine, authentic, piece of Chi-Comm rip off fake/forgery/counterfeit regardless of how well made it is.
Report it to Buck but then again, they can't do sweet all about it as China doesn't recognize copyrights, trademarks etc. from other countries and will tell them to go stick it.
I found an image of it via Google and it is listed as a X44 and made or exported by the biggest rip off on the Internet, Ali Express. A company noted for it's failure to provide the item in the first place, failure to honour their guarantees or warranty and have more hate sites and pending law suits then any company in the history of marketing.
Tobias -- the quick answer is no. Someone took the Kershaw 8700 design & but it in Buck packaging. Buck doesn't rip off Kershaw designs -- however, since the original Kershaw knife was made in China, there' s a good chance this knife was made in the same factory & sold directly to the US market.
Thing is, it's probably not a bad knife, quality-wise. BUT, there's a decent chance the Chinese government is subsidizing the sale, potentially in efforts to sink US manufacturers, in this case knife manufacturers.
Also, I'm pretty sure a Buck knife will not say "USA" unless it was actually built in the US (if they're made elsewhere, they will indicate that country & not say "USA").
So, at this point, might as well see how it performs & get back to us on that!
I assumed almost from the get-go that it was not a true Buck simply because of the Buck/USA blade stamp. I've also run across fake 5-11, Kershaws, and Gerbers. Had it not been a boring late night and had I checked on where it was coming from I'd have never bought it. I never buy knives that ship from China because nine times out of ten they turn out to be fakes.
I figured I'd check with the Buck guys here because at least you're not ridiculed when you do something stupid. My only thought was it may have been a knife Buck had made at one time in China and this was overstock being sold. From the way it sounds here it was NEVER a Buck design.
After some minor alterations I feel I can now use the knife and not feel like I'm insulting Buck. The BUCK/U.S.A. has been removed. As the wood marking clearly states Jabes Cutlery, I can live with that and if I ever opt to sell it I will not do it in a Buck Knives box and tell the buyer it is knock-off of a Kershaw 8700 Series knife. That said, I seriously doubt I will sell it but I will put it to good use.
Well so far, I've discovered an interesting way to open the knife one handed without using the thumb stud. I gave the knife a rather quick underhanded pitch against against the concrete wall from a distance of 11 feet. The knife hit the wall about 4 feet above ground and then bounced off the floor. It opened up about half way. I picked it up and flicked it the rest of the way open. As far as i can tell the knife is none the worst. There is small chip int he concrete where the knife hit. Obviously, not something I do with every knife I buy but I figured what the heck. LOL
did n't have anything better to do so I went back in the basement and decided to test the liner lock. I held the knife on the edge of the work bench sharp edge down. I extended the entire length of the blade as well as the pivot point beynd the edge of the bench and gave the knife repeated whacks on the spine of the blade with a 1X2 piece of pine about 18 inched long. There are several indentations in the pine but the lock didn't fail and the blade is as tight as it was when i began. So far I'm pretty impressed. with this $5 Chinese Knock-off.
This s another Buck, also from China but definitely a Buck. its an SFO of SMKW. Its the 2015 Bill Lowen/SMKW fish knife that is contracted through Buck.
Specifications from the SMKW website
Buck #BU10238
·Stainless steel blades ·Blue smooth bone handle ·Locking master blade ·Nickel silver bolsters ·Brass pins and liners ·Bass shield and custom fish hook bail designed by Brian Wilhoite ·4" Modified clip point blade with signature etch ·4" finely serrated scaler ·Blade widths: 5/8", 5/8" ·Blade thicknesses: 1/8" ·5" closed length ·Made in China
I was over on AAPK, asking 300bucks a question about my Camillus-made Buck 311 Slimline Trapper, and he came back with quite an answer for me. He posted a hand written list of ALL 300 series Bucks that were made by other US companies, who made them, how long & how many versions were created, etc, etc. Myself and several other who saw the document were amazed at the amount of work he put into the list, and he told us he was going to post a spreadsheet with ALL of his Buck research eventually; can't wait to see that. Of course, when he does I'll post it here. Meanwhile I'll post the jpg scans he posted on AAPK here so we can all take advantage of this great historical resource.
Sorry they are out of order, still struggling with the editor here a bit, but yes, it is an amazing document isn't it? I was flabbergasted when he posted it, and recognized it's value to the entire knife collecting community. Never doubt the resolve of a fanatic.
300Bucks has added scans of a spreadsheet he has regarding 300 series Bucks in my AAPK thread, it is several pages long, so I won't take up space here by posting the jpg's, (unless you want me to). Apparently AAPK won't allow uploads of pdf or Excel files, so all he could think of was to upload jpg scans. If you add them to the handwritten scans I posted below, you then have an unprecedented, concise chronological history of the Buck 300 series, with all the pertinent info you could ever want regarding that particular series of vintage Buck knives.
if you can't get to my thread to see the files, send me a PM and I will send them to you. They are an invaluable research tool IMHO.
Here is a pdf of the raw data I have received so far from 300bucks on AAPK. He is working on a complete spreadsheet with all of Buck guru Charles Toft's historical info on the series. Add this to the dating contained in the scans below and you have a pretty complete history of the Buck 300 series knives up to the mid 90's.
I recently picked up a Buck Clearwater Bait Knife of Amazon. When it arrived things just didn't seem right. I haven't bought many Buck Knives and the last fixed blade was almost 8 years ago. but I found it odd that the knife was snapped in the sheath and tossed in the yellow Buck box. There was absolutely no packaging whatsoever. It was just rattling around in the box. When I pulled the knife from the scabbard the blade was covered in a light oil. When I wiped off the oil, the blade appeared to have some kind of black crud on it. On closer inspection, the blade tip didn't quite look like the one I've seen in the photos.
I bought it from a reputable dealer and when I pointed out the my suspicions they gave a full refund. And told me to keep the knife. But as I look at the tip of the blade, if it was re-profiled, it was done by a pro. And the knife is rock-sold and sharp as a razor. I'm wondering now if the tip is the way Buck is making them like this now and while the knife had been a return it was otherwise just fine. I' wondering if I jumped the gun on my complaint, at least about the blade tip.
If the tip looked this much different when you received it, and if you had never seen one in person would you have complained?
And if you plan on using it anyway would you bother buying another one right away or wait and see how this one does?
I've gotten pretty good at searching out feebay listings that don't get noticed, and/or are poorly listed and therefore not noticed by most, and here is a fine example of that. Yet another Camillus-made Buck joins the family, a 307 Wrangler, and also a US-made single blade lockback model 450 "Prodigy". I still have to go through 300buck's data to determine the exact origins and date of manufacture of the 307, but I'm reasonably sure this one is Camillus-made. This was one of my better recent finds on the bay, and I got them both from the same listing for $17.06 shipped. Bidding on this one was of course an educated guess, but I am relatively experienced with bay, and this one turned out really well I think.
Both have obviously been used, and the 307 shows normal wear of the handles & has a few light scratches on the blades, but both have tight, sharp blades, (neither needs sharpening), and both walk & talk like a US-made Buck should.
So, the quest for one of each of the US-made Buck 300 series continues, and I got a cool tactical ta boot. I'm also waiting for a 1970's 301 to arrive, and that one I got stupidly cheap, (if it is as described, another listing that fell through the cracks so to speak, I'm good at finding those), but I'll wait til I see that one to crow about it. In the meantime I'll crow about these two, I'm thrilled to have them, I think I got a great deal!
I searched for "pocket knife" and came up with eight pages of results. I had no idea Etsy was getting so popular, thanks again for the heads up. Of course, like any online purchase I won't really know what I got until it arrives sometime next week. The photos didn't show the master blade profile very well, and that will determine its origins, but it is a relatively early Buck, no matter where it was made. I went ahead and bought due to what I think I saw. Whether I got a good deal or not, of course, is yet to be determined. I'll post pics when it arrives, and describe the features that identify it, (again, thanks to 300bucks from AAPK)..
Found more Buck related stuff today at a yard sale for a dollar, an old #133 Buck Honing Kit with both Arkansas & Washita Stone(s) & a partially used can of Buck honing oil, (no box or knives though). Better than that, there was a 1970's mini catalog with prices & photos of all of their knives that came with the kit. Unfortunately right now my printer is broken, so I can't scan it. I'll take it down to the copy store & get it scanned and will post that here soon too. You guys will get a kick out of it, especially the prices, the list for a 110 Folding Hunter is $25, so in my mind that places the catalog in the 70's. Picked up a #303-sized leather sheath at another yard sale today too, so it was a good Buck day at my house.
Still waiting for the 1960's #303 I have coming, but in the meantime I added a #319 Rancher to my Camillus-made 300 series collection; this one probably dates to the 70's. It is the same closed length as a #301 Stockman, (3 7/8"), same frame, but it has an awl instead of a sheepsfoot blade. This one is farm fresh and well used, but in a complete and "good" used condition. Both blades have been sharpened, sloppily of course, but they have no nicks, just scratches and scuffs. Surprisingly both blades are passably sharp. There are also some marks on the bolsters, and the awl actually looks rusty on one side, (probably just gunk). I'd love to have a pristine version of all of my Bucks, but I also respect an often-used knife as well, they have "character", (most of my Bucks fall under that description). I have no problem owning a knife that has been used and appreciated. I'll clean this one up and add it to the herd. More photos after the #303 arrives.
Ok, here is a lesson on how NOT to buy vintage knives online. Pictured below are two Buck #303 Cadets. On top is a Camillus-made from the mid to late 70's, (it has a carbon spring which dates it pre 1980), below is the same model, but made by Schrade between 1967-1972. Notice any difference? The earlier knife is noticeably of thinner profile, has brass handle pins, and though it's reshaped, the master blade has a small angle on top from the nail nick back, (a Schrade "tell"), it's hard to see but it's there.
I bought that older knife online thinking it was intact, but when it arrived I of course immediately noticed that the master blade had been broken then reshaped, losing nearly an inch of it's original length, (compare the blades in the photo). The seller claimed ignorance of course, but said he would take it back if I wanted to go to the trouble and expense of sending it back. The photos he took weren't clear in his Etsy listing, so I missed that defect when I decided to purchase it, (I wasn't the only one who didn't see that defect BTW). I decided to keep it anyway, at least as an example of the differences between these two versions of the same model knife. The older knife also has no model number on it, and has "Buck" stamped into the pile side of the secondary blades.
Lesson learned? Ask for more photos if the ones you are looking at don't show the knife from every conceivable angle. That's another reason I decided to keep it, I didn't do my homework, so it was partially my fault as well as the seller's.
Oh well, flawed or not this is the oldest Buck that I have, I'll keep it just for that reason if for nothing else.
Bob Robinson
Jun 10, 2014
Jan Carter
2015 Debut: 'Red Steel' Compadre Series Coming From Buck Knives
Three implements from Buck Knives will debut at the Outdoor Retailer trade show this week, including a knife, a hatchet, and a “chopping froe.” They will go on sale in 2015.
Each is made in the USA. The tools are all treated with a red powdercoat finish for rust and corrosion resistance.
The 104 Camp Knife has full-tang construction and a 5160 steel blade that’s 9.5 inches long. Its handle is made of walnut. It will cost $80.
A hatchet, the 106 Compadre model, has a 5160 steel head and a walnut-dymondwood handle. It comes with a leather sheath and weighs about 24 ounces. MSRP when available will be $120.
Finally, the 108 Compadre Chopping Froe is, Buck cites, a multi-purpose wood working tool. Its 9.5-inch steel blade was built for clearing brush and heavy wood chopping.
But the machete-like tool, which measures almost 17 inches long, weighs less than 2 pounds. It will cost $160 when Buck ships to consumers and stores in early 2015. —Stephen Regenold
http://gearjunkie.com/buck-knives-compadre-series
Aug 10, 2014
Sunil Ram
I'm a bit interested in that hatchet. Hope it chops well.
Aug 12, 2014
Jan Carter
Buck® Buffalo and Honey Jasper Skinner
OK, that is a beautiful Buck!
Sep 2, 2014
Ken Spielvogel
Awesome looking knife Jan
Sep 2, 2014
Jan Carter
Bantam is a good knife!
Nov 27, 2014
David L. Packham
Dec 1, 2014
Ron Cooper
That's a sharp looking collection of Buck's you've got there, Dave!
Do my eyes deceive me or do I spy an automatic third from the left?
Dec 1, 2014
David L. Packham
Ron cooper, that is *not* an automatic (although I wish I had one in my collection) that is a Buck 110 Master series, what looks like a push button is actually the Master Series badge
Dec 2, 2014
David L. Packham
Buck 120 General
Dec 2, 2014
Ron Cooper
Thanks, David, for your response. When I saw that picture I thought it looked like a left handed automatic. Now I know what it really is.
Cheers, mate!
Dec 2, 2014
David L. Packham
Ron, you're more than welcome! I'm here to help.
Dec 3, 2014
David L. Packham
Cocobolo-Handled Buck 120....newest addition to my collection
Dec 3, 2014
Jan Carter
Cabela's Alaskan Guide® Series Mini Alpha Knife by Buck Knives® 87.99 now
Dec 4, 2014
David L. Packham
Dec 15, 2014
Colin MacRury
Hi All,
New to the group.
Been carrying a 110 for years, and much to my delight my grand daughter presented me with a 112fg for Christmas with a custom sheath---
She's a good kid!!!!!!!
Jan 10, 2015
Jan Carter
Colin,
I would say she is a keeper!! Congrats and welcome
Jan 10, 2015
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Charles Sample
Congrats Colin! Sounds like a real good kid!
Jan 10, 2015
Ms Data
2015 SHOT Show Sneak Peak - Buck 119 Brahma
Jan 12, 2015
Billy Oneale
NICE!
Jan 13, 2015
David L. Packham
Both of my Buck 120's, Dymondwood Top Phenolic Bottom
Feb 28, 2015
jim buda
LIFETIME MEMBER OF BUCK COLLECTORS CLUB HAVE ALL HARLEY KNIVES MANY WERE MADE BY BUCK EITHER IN 110S OR BOWIES UP TILL 100TH ANN. HAVE WORKSHOP BOWIE AND OTHERS AND QUITE A FEW OLD CUSTOM SHOP
Mar 8, 2015
David L. Packham
Apr 11, 2015
Don Martinez
In this picture I have a 30th anniversary green 110 with Chucks picture, a custom finger grooved 110 with nickel posters and indigo wood scales, a 119, a pathfinder, I also have a 40th anniversary finger grooved 110. I would like to get some information on a titanium or aluminum partially skeletonized scales/handle 110, I seem to have seen once upon a time.
May 1, 2015
Tobias Gibson
Hello to all the Buck Enthusiasts on IKC. Before I begin, let me say I do not actively collect Buck Knives, I came across the knife pictured below on Ebay a couple weeks ago and bought it without investigating (always a bad idea) Right after completing the deal I realized the knife was going to ship from China! Strike Two!
When it arrived I realized that it was actually a very solid, extremely well made knife. Definitely on par with other bucks I've purchased that were made in China (For instance my Buck Whittaker.)
My question: Is this knife a Buck or not. The person selling clearly stated it was made in China yet the blade says Buck U.S.A. The box is identical to other Buck Knives I've bought. And, as i said the quality it there. But is it actually knife made by Buck?
The knife is 3.5 inches closed. It has a 2.5 inch blade. While it is not too obvious but the lanyard hole can act as flat head screwdriver or small pry. And the back end is cap lifter
A clearer view of the blade markings BUCK U.S.A. X44
and the laser etched Buck and the words Buck Jabes Cutlery?
Hard to see but the very thick liner lock.
As I said, the knife is rock solid. But as I've never seen it before I'm curious if it is legitimate Buck.
May 3, 2015
Billy Oneale
May 3, 2015
Tobias Gibson
funny thing is, I spent $5 for the knife. It is well worth about twice that with no problem, regardless is it is a genuine Buck or a Buck Rogers! So if it is a counterfeit, the guy is the in wrong business!
May 3, 2015
Shlomo ben Maved
Remember that Buck didn't stop A L L production of their knives from the Orient just a large percentage so there are legitimate models being produced in China (PRC) to this day.
Since Buck has never had it listed in their catalogue then what you've got is a 100%, genuine, authentic, piece of Chi-Comm rip off fake/forgery/counterfeit regardless of how well made it is.
Report it to Buck but then again, they can't do sweet all about it as China doesn't recognize copyrights, trademarks etc. from other countries and will tell them to go stick it.
May 3, 2015
Shlomo ben Maved
I found an image of it via Google and it is listed as a X44 and made or exported by the biggest rip off on the Internet, Ali Express. A company noted for it's failure to provide the item in the first place, failure to honour their guarantees or warranty and have more hate sites and pending law suits then any company in the history of marketing.
Everything listed here is pure fake.
http://www.aliexpress.com/folding-buck-knife_reviews.html
May 3, 2015
Shlomo ben Maved
Check out this off site of Ali:
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/515751
A genuine Buck model 110 Anniversary (Marked US Army) for $33 and a Damascus version---which is probably just acid etched--for $50.
May 3, 2015
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dead_left_knife_guy
Tobias -- the quick answer is no. Someone took the Kershaw 8700 design & but it in Buck packaging. Buck doesn't rip off Kershaw designs -- however, since the original Kershaw knife was made in China, there' s a good chance this knife was made in the same factory & sold directly to the US market.
Thing is, it's probably not a bad knife, quality-wise. BUT, there's a decent chance the Chinese government is subsidizing the sale, potentially in efforts to sink US manufacturers, in this case knife manufacturers.
Also, I'm pretty sure a Buck knife will not say "USA" unless it was actually built in the US (if they're made elsewhere, they will indicate that country & not say "USA").
So, at this point, might as well see how it performs & get back to us on that!
May 3, 2015
Tobias Gibson
I assumed almost from the get-go that it was not a true Buck simply because of the Buck/USA blade stamp. I've also run across fake 5-11, Kershaws, and Gerbers. Had it not been a boring late night and had I checked on where it was coming from I'd have never bought it. I never buy knives that ship from China because nine times out of ten they turn out to be fakes.
I figured I'd check with the Buck guys here because at least you're not ridiculed when you do something stupid. My only thought was it may have been a knife Buck had made at one time in China and this was overstock being sold. From the way it sounds here it was NEVER a Buck design.
May 3, 2015
Tobias Gibson
After some minor alterations I feel I can now use the knife and not feel like I'm insulting Buck. The BUCK/U.S.A. has been removed. As the wood marking clearly states Jabes Cutlery, I can live with that and if I ever opt to sell it I will not do it in a Buck Knives box and tell the buyer it is knock-off of a Kershaw 8700 Series knife. That said, I seriously doubt I will sell it but I will put it to good use.
May 3, 2015
Jan Carter
Tobias,
Good work removing the BUCK USA. I am interested in how it will hold up to use
May 3, 2015
Tobias Gibson
Well so far, I've discovered an interesting way to open the knife one handed without using the thumb stud. I gave the knife a rather quick underhanded pitch against against the concrete wall from a distance of 11 feet. The knife hit the wall about 4 feet above ground and then bounced off the floor. It opened up about half way. I picked it up and flicked it the rest of the way open. As far as i can tell the knife is none the worst. There is small chip int he concrete where the knife hit. Obviously, not something I do with every knife I buy but I figured what the heck. LOL
May 3, 2015
Tobias Gibson
did n't have anything better to do so I went back in the basement and decided to test the liner lock. I held the knife on the edge of the work bench sharp edge down. I extended the entire length of the blade as well as the pivot point beynd the edge of the bench and gave the knife repeated whacks on the spine of the blade with a 1X2 piece of pine about 18 inched long. There are several indentations in the pine but the lock didn't fail and the blade is as tight as it was when i began. So far I'm pretty impressed. with this $5 Chinese Knock-off.
May 3, 2015
Tobias Gibson
This s another Buck, also from China but definitely a Buck. its an SFO of SMKW. Its the 2015 Bill Lowen/SMKW fish knife that is contracted through Buck.
Specifications from the SMKW website
Buck #BU10238
·Stainless steel blades
·Blue smooth bone handle
·Locking master blade
·Nickel silver bolsters
·Brass pins and liners
·Bass shield and custom fish hook bail designed by Brian Wilhoite
·4" Modified clip point blade with signature etch
·4" finely serrated scaler
·Blade widths: 5/8", 5/8"
·Blade thicknesses: 1/8"
·5" closed length
·Made in China
May 10, 2015
Mike West
Tobias,
That is a nice looking knife. Made in China takes the edge off for me, but as a "user", I would still consider it.
May 10, 2015
Syd Carr
I was over on AAPK, asking 300bucks a question about my Camillus-made Buck 311 Slimline Trapper, and he came back with quite an answer for me. He posted a hand written list of ALL 300 series Bucks that were made by other US companies, who made them, how long & how many versions were created, etc, etc. Myself and several other who saw the document were amazed at the amount of work he put into the list, and he told us he was going to post a spreadsheet with ALL of his Buck research eventually; can't wait to see that. Of course, when he does I'll post it here. Meanwhile I'll post the jpg scans he posted on AAPK here so we can all take advantage of this great historical resource.
May 12, 2015
Syd Carr
Oops, missed a page, here is page 4.
May 12, 2015
Jan Carter
Syd,
Thank you. That information is priceless!
May 12, 2015
Syd Carr
Sorry they are out of order, still struggling with the editor here a bit, but yes, it is an amazing document isn't it? I was flabbergasted when he posted it, and recognized it's value to the entire knife collecting community. Never doubt the resolve of a fanatic.
May 12, 2015
Syd Carr
300Bucks has added scans of a spreadsheet he has regarding 300 series Bucks in my AAPK thread, it is several pages long, so I won't take up space here by posting the jpg's, (unless you want me to). Apparently AAPK won't allow uploads of pdf or Excel files, so all he could think of was to upload jpg scans. If you add them to the handwritten scans I posted below, you then have an unprecedented, concise chronological history of the Buck 300 series, with all the pertinent info you could ever want regarding that particular series of vintage Buck knives.
if you can't get to my thread to see the files, send me a PM and I will send them to you. They are an invaluable research tool IMHO.
May 13, 2015
Syd Carr
Here is a pdf of the raw data I have received so far from 300bucks on AAPK. He is working on a complete spreadsheet with all of Buck guru Charles Toft's historical info on the series. Add this to the dating contained in the scans below and you have a pretty complete history of the Buck 300 series knives up to the mid 90's.
For some reason my thread on AAPK became the dumping ground for this data, but I'm glad it did Buck%20300%20Series%20history%20by%20300%20Bucks%20unedited.pdf.
May 14, 2015
Tobias Gibson
I recently picked up a Buck Clearwater Bait Knife of Amazon. When it arrived things just didn't seem right. I haven't bought many Buck Knives and the last fixed blade was almost 8 years ago. but I found it odd that the knife was snapped in the sheath and tossed in the yellow Buck box. There was absolutely no packaging whatsoever. It was just rattling around in the box. When I pulled the knife from the scabbard the blade was covered in a light oil. When I wiped off the oil, the blade appeared to have some kind of black crud on it. On closer inspection, the blade tip didn't quite look like the one I've seen in the photos.
I bought it from a reputable dealer and when I pointed out the my suspicions they gave a full refund. And told me to keep the knife. But as I look at the tip of the blade, if it was re-profiled, it was done by a pro. And the knife is rock-sold and sharp as a razor. I'm wondering now if the tip is the way Buck is making them like this now and while the knife had been a return it was otherwise just fine. I' wondering if I jumped the gun on my complaint, at least about the blade tip.
If the tip looked this much different when you received it, and if you had never seen one in person would you have complained?
And if you plan on using it anyway would you bother buying another one right away or wait and see how this one does?
May 24, 2015
Syd Carr
I've gotten pretty good at searching out feebay listings that don't get noticed, and/or are poorly listed and therefore not noticed by most, and here is a fine example of that. Yet another Camillus-made Buck joins the family, a 307 Wrangler, and also a US-made single blade lockback model 450 "Prodigy". I still have to go through 300buck's data to determine the exact origins and date of manufacture of the 307, but I'm reasonably sure this one is Camillus-made. This was one of my better recent finds on the bay, and I got them both from the same listing for $17.06 shipped. Bidding on this one was of course an educated guess, but I am relatively experienced with bay, and this one turned out really well I think.
Both have obviously been used, and the 307 shows normal wear of the handles & has a few light scratches on the blades, but both have tight, sharp blades, (neither needs sharpening), and both walk & talk like a US-made Buck should.
So, the quest for one of each of the US-made Buck 300 series continues, and I got a cool tactical ta boot. I'm also waiting for a 1970's 301 to arrive, and that one I got stupidly cheap, (if it is as described, another listing that fell through the cracks so to speak, I'm good at finding those), but I'll wait til I see that one to crow about it. In the meantime I'll crow about these two, I'm thrilled to have them, I think I got a great deal!
May 28, 2015
Jan Carter
Syd, sometimes I just type in knife and see what happens. I too have found some oddly listed items at a steal using that strategy
Jun 20, 2015
Syd Carr
I searched for "pocket knife" and came up with eight pages of results. I had no idea Etsy was getting so popular, thanks again for the heads up. Of course, like any online purchase I won't really know what I got until it arrives sometime next week. The photos didn't show the master blade profile very well, and that will determine its origins, but it is a relatively early Buck, no matter where it was made. I went ahead and bought due to what I think I saw. Whether I got a good deal or not, of course, is yet to be determined. I'll post pics when it arrives, and describe the features that identify it, (again, thanks to 300bucks from AAPK)..
Found more Buck related stuff today at a yard sale for a dollar, an old #133 Buck Honing Kit with both Arkansas & Washita Stone(s) & a partially used can of Buck honing oil, (no box or knives though). Better than that, there was a 1970's mini catalog with prices & photos of all of their knives that came with the kit. Unfortunately right now my printer is broken, so I can't scan it. I'll take it down to the copy store & get it scanned and will post that here soon too. You guys will get a kick out of it, especially the prices, the list for a 110 Folding Hunter is $25, so in my mind that places the catalog in the 70's. Picked up a #303-sized leather sheath at another yard sale today too, so it was a good Buck day at my house.
Jun 20, 2015
Syd Carr
Still waiting for the 1960's #303 I have coming, but in the meantime I added a #319 Rancher to my Camillus-made 300 series collection; this one probably dates to the 70's. It is the same closed length as a #301 Stockman, (3 7/8"), same frame, but it has an awl instead of a sheepsfoot blade. This one is farm fresh and well used, but in a complete and "good" used condition. Both blades have been sharpened, sloppily of course, but they have no nicks, just scratches and scuffs. Surprisingly both blades are passably sharp. There are also some marks on the bolsters, and the awl actually looks rusty on one side, (probably just gunk). I'd love to have a pristine version of all of my Bucks, but I also respect an often-used knife as well, they have "character", (most of my Bucks fall under that description). I have no problem owning a knife that has been used and appreciated. I'll clean this one up and add it to the herd. More photos after the #303 arrives.
Jun 23, 2015
Syd Carr
Ok, here is a lesson on how NOT to buy vintage knives online. Pictured below are two Buck #303 Cadets. On top is a Camillus-made from the mid to late 70's, (it has a carbon spring which dates it pre 1980), below is the same model, but made by Schrade between 1967-1972. Notice any difference? The earlier knife is noticeably of thinner profile, has brass handle pins, and though it's reshaped, the master blade has a small angle on top from the nail nick back, (a Schrade "tell"), it's hard to see but it's there.
I bought that older knife online thinking it was intact, but when it arrived I of course immediately noticed that the master blade had been broken then reshaped, losing nearly an inch of it's original length, (compare the blades in the photo). The seller claimed ignorance of course, but said he would take it back if I wanted to go to the trouble and expense of sending it back. The photos he took weren't clear in his Etsy listing, so I missed that defect when I decided to purchase it, (I wasn't the only one who didn't see that defect BTW). I decided to keep it anyway, at least as an example of the differences between these two versions of the same model knife. The older knife also has no model number on it, and has "Buck" stamped into the pile side of the secondary blades.
Lesson learned? Ask for more photos if the ones you are looking at don't show the knife from every conceivable angle. That's another reason I decided to keep it, I didn't do my homework, so it was partially my fault as well as the seller's.
Oh well, flawed or not this is the oldest Buck that I have, I'll keep it just for that reason if for nothing else.
Jun 26, 2015