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After a prolonged discussion on the comment board over on Outdoor Living, Charles, Robert, and I agreed that the the talk on the comment wall probably needed a home  in an actual discussion.   We also agreed that IKC Arsenal might be a better place for it that Outdoor living.  So here is a place to get talk about your air guns, both BB and Pellet.   Perhaps even airsoft and paintball if there is isn't already a place for those.  

I'll get things started.  (but feel free to let 'er rip and post your own images and stories, especially varmint/small game hunts1)

I've owned three BB guns an one BB/Pellet hybrid.  All the lower end Daisy/Crosman variety.  Curently all I own is a Daisy Red Ryder (there is a story behind its ownership, but it can wait.)  I'm looking to step it up a notch and want to get a decent  singal shot .177 pellet gun capable of 1,000 FPS for both plinking and possible varmint, small game use.  But I need to learn more about pellet guns before I start tossing down money.  My two main concerns are

1) spring piston vs. gas piston

2) Break barrel vs. pump

I assume their are trade off with both types of systems but I've not heard much about why one is better than the other or when a person would prefer one system over the other.

Also any opinions on the Gamo Silent Cat or the Crosman 1377 pistol would be appreciated.  Both are on my short list.

Gamo Silent Cat (1000 FPS match grade lead)

Crosman 1377 pistol (Variable pump up to 650 FPS)  Optional stock and numerous upgrades available.

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I have no idea the answer to that question.

Fascinating video, these flare guns are possibly a good thing to have. 1. to signal for help or 2. To protect yourself in the event of a home invasion.

peter force said:

i agree ..nothing that fires any projectile of any sorts should be treated like a toy.

 

thank you very much for the post above mke. i love it when folks take the time to write. thank you for the much needed information.

 

i wanted to follw up on what im sure most will consider da dumb idea but since i can have these 2 items in the same desk next to my bed. i would at least have a sigle shot.i may be judged of course for having it after i was attacked in my home{as i would not walk the streets like a fool with a gun...ESPECIALLY IN nj AND ESPECIALLY SOMETYHING "HOMEMADE"...

 

basically with knives im ok. with guns im a dyummy!...LOL.. but this looks to be my only real way to have at least a single shot "is what theyare called here in nj"" for that one fool that sticks his head in my house...well in NJ i have to wat until he is basicaly attacking me. so if yo9u are wondering why im looking at sych measures..its not so much for the fun and games of it... but that the pieces are legal 100% sperate...i already am lookig at the GECCO METAL FLARE GUNS... i would never go plastic..thats kind of crazy-IMO.  anyway i happen to love these guys. i am not asking for anything but your opion on the idea with keeping in mind that i cannot get a  firearm . i can own the ammo,the kennnessaw insert and flare gun though.

 

here are a few links one is o the video directly... and one is to their channel on youtibe... i am not someone preaching this method...im curious if its honestly going to work? i know of course if i did have to use it i would be stuck explaining myslef..BUT I WOULD BE ALIVE!!{rather be judged by 12 the carried by 6 ..as they say}

so i guess my question is.invest the 90$ on something that will fire of at least  2 different single shots{please watch vidoeo,i think you will be surprised} moving out of Nj/PA is not a choice i have riught now. so thats off the table.

 

so your opinions... HELP ME PLEASEEEEE ...lol... i understand its not the greatest and a GUN would be better.am i foolish for even thinking this?.. thanx everyone. 

 

vid of flare gun tests. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vfQwdszJYM  here they are only firing flares.even they do damage!

part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cWROn6d40I  fires .45!  ...this is what i would be doing....

and their channel if you like it. http://www.youtube.com/user/Iraqveteran8888?feature=watch 

I know Daisy has a good BB gun, I've only seen the Crosman pellet rifles, so I have no idea on your poll. My guess, Daisy.

Robert, Surprisingly, I went to the Crosman website and they only make one air rifle that is BB only!  They used to make several.  The current Crosman BB gun is under the Marlin brand (the Marlin Cowboy Lever Action).  I was stunned to find this out.  The have several BB/Pellet hybrids.   It would seem they have decided to focus on air-soft instead of BB.

That said, I did create a poll comparing Daisy/Crosman BB guns and  similarly priced Daisy/Crosman bb-pellet hybrids.

http://gullycat.hegewisch.net/poll/

I voted, I own a Daisy 880, so you know how I voted...lol

Robert, the 880 is on my short list for BB/Pellet hybrid.  I had a Crosman Pumpmaster growing up and I liked it  But the specs on the Daisy seem slightly better and I can get it cost slightly less. I've also been very happy with the Red Ryder.

I have a Gamo Silent Cat - 

I don't find it particularly silent, but it is powerful and nicely accurate, particularly if you use the premium pellets. 

The factory supplied scope is neat, can't speak to it's longevity, but I like the "see through" end-caps. 

best 

mqqn

I wonder if anyone is getting a new Air Rifle for Christmas?

I'm getting a Crosman Optimus .177 for Christmas!

Have ya'll tried different types of pellets in your air rifle to check for accuracy? I have in the past and Gamo Match pellets shoot the best for me.

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