I just got my third puma white hunter and they all have differences from one another. Is there a guide or book or something that shows all the variations, marking, years,etc.?
Mr. Burris are you absolutely, positively sure of your facts?
For in 1967 Mrs. Renate von Frankenberg took over the company, PUMA-WERK, Lauterjung & Sohn, as a general partner from her father Franz Lauterjung whose great, great grandfather, Johann Wilhelm, started the company in 1769 and has been in the Lauterjung family since then and still remains in their hands to this day.
There have been Communist, mainland, Chinese company stamping crap blades with the Puma/Solingen stamps but this are readily discernible—quality of finish and weight alone would give them away...Then again those Chi-Comm SOBs have been duplicating many makers knives especially the more expensive models with absolutely no worries of ever being punished and one of many reasons why I won’t knowingly buy Chi-Comm products—Taiwan Republic of is another matter entirely and I have lots of their manufactured goods.
They laud their "merchandise" a lot on EBAY which means you can't get to feel, see, handle the blade beforehand to spot the fake but when a $450 White Hunter is going on EBAY for $150 you just know that something is fishy about it.
Companies like Benchmark, Emerson, KAI-Kershaw, Strider, Chris Reeve and especially Cold Steel, probably have more fakes out with their stamps on them, then their real blades.
Shlomo, I got burned on a China made copy of a Laguiole folder that still has me made. I think the trade name was not patened or something to that effect. I think Puma has suffered some duplicating also, a real shame. I love Puma knives, infact I'm looking at an old one right now for a purchase. You seem to be very knowledgeable on these conerfeits so any help you can give us will be appreciated. Thanks.
Whether the name was protected or not, that doesn't stop those mother molesters from duplicating it and falsely selling it with an exact comparison--not like those cheap rip-offs that say Robex or Rolox instead of the real Rolex.
There are thousands upon thousands of horror stories out there where collectors have been burnt by labelled duplicate or fakes with the majority coming from Communist China but India, Pakistan and Afghanistan have all had supporting roles?
If you want to build a duplicate copy of say the Buck 110 folder then all the best for you…probably the most wildly duplicated knife style--If you can do it as a Buck marketing licensee manufactures then even better still--affix the Buck chop to the tang and your country on the obverse and best of luck to you B U T if you do so without permission and claim that it is a knife made B Y Buck that is intellectual plagiarism A N D downright fraud
If you build it, putY O U Rchop on it and the country that it’s made in then have it decided upon by a panel of knife critics as to who made the better knife...The Buck 110 was copied from a Puma design who copied it from a Boker design and each of them made slight differences to the model they copied from but they never claimed their pieces were the same as another’s
Robert Burris said:
Shlomo, I got burned on a China made copy of a Laguiole folder that still has me made. I think the trade name was not patened or something to that effect. I think Puma has suffered some duplicating also, a real shame. I love Puma knives, infact I'm looking at an old one right now for a purchase. You seem to be very knowledgeable on these conerfeits so any help you can give us will be appreciated. Thanks.
Shlomo ben Maved
For in 1967 Mrs. Renate von Frankenberg took over the company, PUMA-WERK, Lauterjung & Sohn, as a general partner from her father Franz Lauterjung whose great, great grandfather, Johann Wilhelm, started the company in 1769 and has been in the Lauterjung family since then and still remains in their hands to this day.
There have been Communist, mainland, Chinese company stamping crap blades with the Puma/Solingen stamps but this are readily discernible—quality of finish and weight alone would give them away...Then again those Chi-Comm SOBs have been duplicating many makers knives especially the more expensive models with absolutely no worries of ever being punished and one of many reasons why I won’t knowingly buy Chi-Comm products—Taiwan Republic of is another matter entirely and I have lots of their manufactured goods.
They laud their "merchandise" a lot on EBAY which means you can't get to feel, see, handle the blade beforehand to spot the fake but when a $450 White Hunter is going on EBAY for $150 you just know that something is fishy about it.
Companies like Benchmark, Emerson, KAI-Kershaw, Strider, Chris Reeve and especially Cold Steel, probably have more fakes out with their stamps on them, then their real blades.
Sep 3, 2011
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Robert Burris
Sep 3, 2011
Shlomo ben Maved
Whether the name was protected or not, that doesn't stop those mother molesters from duplicating it and falsely selling it with an exact comparison--not like those cheap rip-offs that say Robex or Rolox instead of the real Rolex.
There are thousands upon thousands of horror stories out there where collectors have been burnt by labelled duplicate or fakes with the majority coming from Communist China but India, Pakistan and Afghanistan have all had supporting roles?
If you want to build a duplicate copy of say the Buck 110 folder then all the best for you…probably the most wildly duplicated knife style--If you can do it as a Buck marketing licensee manufactures then even better still--affix the Buck chop to the tang and your country on the obverse and best of luck to you B U T if you do so without permission and claim that it is a knife made B Y Buck that is intellectual plagiarism A N D downright fraud
If you build it, put Y O U R chop on it and the country that it’s made in then have it decided upon by a panel of knife critics as to who made the better knife...The Buck 110 was copied from a Puma design who copied it from a Boker design and each of them made slight differences to the model they copied from but they never claimed their pieces were the same as another’s
Sep 3, 2011