"THE CANADIAN EMBASSY" hosted by Ron Dumeah

This group is for anyone with common interest of manufacture, discussion or acquiring knives for collection. 

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  • In Memoriam

    Robert Burris

    Shlomo, I think you may have spoken to soon to say that Grohmann knives is the only  noted knife maker in the great country of Canada. That's okay I get excited about some of my favorite makers. There is alot of fine makers in Canada and after reflection, you'll agree. We all love our best knife makers.

  • Shlomo ben Maved

    Actually I haven't!

    As Ron stated, I posted a list of some of the custom makers earlier but Skalja (Semi Custom) and Grohmann (Commercial/Production) are about it for makers nowadays.

    There were a few small cutlers who made for the hardware chains here but they died out in the 1970s along with the hardware stores---except in small towns and those are getting few and far between.

    We aren't like the US with Ka-Bar, Bear & Sons, W.R. Case, Entrek, Emerson etc., etc., etc. that are made CONUS.

    We almost always imported either from the US, England or Europe...You got to remember that we're nearly twice your size in land mass and don't even have the population of Los Angeles and surrounding environs---we're just around 30 million.

     Comment by Robert Burris:

    Shlomo, I think you may have spoken to soon to say that Grohmann knives is the only  noted knife maker in the great country of Canada. That's okay I get excited about some of my favorite makers. There is alot of fine makers in Canada and after reflection, you'll agree. We all love our best knife makers.

  • Jan Carter

    So that brings up the question (at least for me)

    Who do you all think the most imported knife manufacture is?

  • Shlomo ben Maved

    Do you mean custom or commercial?  Manufacturer implies mass production, maker is one or two att a time.

    Canadian or elsewhere?

    My favourite Canadian makers are Mel Long, Brent Beshara, Gaetan Beauchamp, Rod Ridley, Ed Storch, Geo Bandt, Trent Entwistle, Greg Lightfoot, Jeff Dotte, Brian Tighe, Pierre Rodrique, Randy Doucette, Jeff Maron, Rick Marchand, Kirby Lambert, Steve Vanderkolff and just got two small blades from Sean O'Hare.

    As to manufacturers available--we only have the one but whatever you can get in the USA we can get here as well and we might not have as great an affinity to "Made in the USA" most of us still prefer them over what you call imports but remember here in Canada y'all are imports to us.

    Comment by Jan Carter

    So that brings up the question (at least for me)

    Who do you all think the most imported knife manufacture is?

  • Jan Carter

    Shlomo,

    I actually meant manufacture.  Ron says in his area it is Gerber, who do you think it would be in your area?

  • Shlomo ben Maved

    As I said earlier, whatever you can get in the USA we have here.

    The array of my friends and family carry everything that's out there, not any one maker over the other.

    I collect CRKT, yet, most of my daughters carry the Bob Dozier folder by Ka-Bar because it was one of the first ones that were available in pink, my wife carries a Chris Reeve Sebenza and I have a Boker Deluxe Camp in my left pants pocket, my two brothers carry SOG, one of my S-I-Ls carries her husband's old Emerson and the other a Zero Tolerance, my sister a Buck 119 and her husband a Knives of Alaska Hunter CF...They were over for dinner this evening and I asked them to show me their carry knives..

    That would be for today, tomorrow, the only constant will be my Boker and my B-I-L's Hunter (which we got him for his B-Day).

    My married daughters and their husbands carry a variety of makers amongst themselves.

    Gerber would probably be the least carried of the major makers since they cheapened their line, quality wise, so much and the Canadian Tire store near us carries more then just Gerber.

    The Cabela's store we have here carries a different line-up of knives then the sister store in East Grand Forks, MN.

  • Jan Carter

    Well it sounds about as varied as we are around here.  I love the knives from Knives of Alaska, his site is awesome


  • In Memoriam

    Robert Burris

    Shlomo, USA or Canada is like a line in the dirt for me, I like knives and makers on both sides.

  • Shlomo ben Maved

    Quite an expensive line--for us--as we have to add 20% duty, 6.5% GST (Fed Tax) and 12% exchange rate to the dollar...The duty varies by certain criteria and exchange rate fluctuates but this is the general rule of thumb. 

    $100.00 + 12.00 (exc) = $112.00 + 22.40 (duty) = $134.40 + 8.74 (GST) = $143.14 and then a brokerage fee from Fed Ex or whomever of $5.00 to $20.00 but that's at least on the whole order not the individual blades...As you can see, it works out to 43% plus brokerage so I just half the amount again when looking at US prices. 

    At one point the exchange rate was almost 60% and boy did that cut down on cross border shoppers from Canada but boy did we ever get a lot of Americans coming to buy--which was the intent in the first place.

    We also like the US knives but we don't really have another choice unless you go European, which I did with Boker, Puma, Scandinavian and Italian makers when the exchange rate was horrendous.

    We have a huge Icelandic population hereabouts as well as a large amount of Finns so the puukko wasn't something foreign to me as lots of our friends carried them hunting and camping and which is why I got into collecting them.

  • Jan Carter

    Cant wait to see it Ron

  • Jan Carter

    Some really good info there Ron, thanks for sharing

  • Shlomo ben Maved

    Here are three of the V-42 which is the famous knife of the Combined Force:

    The first is by Rob Carlton of Damascus USA who has made a number of knives for me over the years...Great knives, excellent prices, super customer service and I'm hoping to be ordering three more from him this summer...His price for this is $375

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    This one is a reproduction that CAS Hanwei has been making for a few years now...It is a very finely made knife.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    This last one is by a US maker whose name I have lost (for the moment) that he is making a run of IIRC ten blades...He didn't have a sheath made yet so he used the one from the original.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

  • Shlomo ben Maved

    These two originals:

     

     

     

    M.H. Cole Version

     

     

     

     

    W.R. Case  First Special Service Force

  • Jan Carter

    Happy Victoria Day!!

    OK, I know it's on my calendar but I don't know what it is, someone share what your celebrating?

  • Shlomo ben Maved

    The Ulu -- greatest skinning knife ever devised as well as a damn good food preparer, eating utensil and general all around cutting tool.

    There are two distinct styles with many variants within each one. 

    They are the dual stem (usually found around Alaska) and the single stem (usually found in the Eastern Arctic to Greenland)...How many metal stems project from the metal to join to the handle…The most common is the Greenland style.

    Bjarne Rasmussen (SWE) Damascus custom Eastern Greenland pattern

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Eagle River Brand Oosik (Walrus penis) Western (Alaska) Style

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Eastern variation by Mark Knapp in quilted maple

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Outdoor Edge version

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • In Memoriam

    Robert Burris

    Ron, I can't believe that a Blow Gun is banned. I have a cousin that has one and it's good fun. I can't see it as a dangerous weapon at all. Sorry to hear about all that.


  • In Memoriam

    Robert Burris

    Wow, that's a bummer, ya'll need to get together next election and try change things. I don't want to get into ya'll politics because I end up with someone misunderstanding what I'm trying to say. I hope ya'll the best of luck changing things the way ya'll want. You have my support. Good luck. my friend.

  • Sue OldsWidow

    not the greatest of copies....but nice...

  • Shlomo ben Maved

    The link above for the WCKA takes you to "Knife Dogs" -- a really good forum for knifemakers.

    Blade Forums also has a thread allocated to the WCKA

     

    This is the link to the actual  WCKA - Western Canada Knife Assoc.

    http://wcka.org/

     

    I had the link for the CKG - Canadian Knifemakers Guild but somehow it got corrupted.

  • Jan Carter

    "never too soft and free from flaws.”

     

    Cool tag line for an Axe!

  • Smiling-Knife

    Happy Canada Day weekend everyone. Here's a  special little knife for the occasion. It was made by Boker and dates to the very early 1900s (patn 1907). The sterling silver scales depict the 9 provincial shields as they existed at the time. Some have changed in design since then. They are arranged from left to right in order of joining the confederation (photo 1). Alberta and Saskcatchewan being the most recent additions and, of course, it would be quite sometime before Newfoundland and Labrador became the 10th province.

  • Jan Carter

    SK,

    I really like that one.  The shields are very clear and the blades look well loved

  • Shlomo ben Maved

    A little more info on that knife:

    That's a Ed Wusthof designed for Boker 1907 pen knife depicting the Canadian Provincial Shields issued for the 40th birthday (July 1st, 1867) 

    Joined Confederation:
    01) 1 July, 1867 Canada formed consisting of four provinces, Ontario, Quebec, Nova Scotia and New Brunswick
    05) 15 July, 1870 Manitoba
    06) 15 July, 1870 Northwest  Territory
    07) 20 July, 1871 British Columbia
    08) 1 July, 1873 Prince Edward Island
    09) 13 June, 1898 Yukon Territory
    10) 1 September, 1905 Saskatchewan
    11) 1 September, 1905 Alberta
    12) 31 March, 1949 Newfoundland (later renamed Newfoundland and Labrador Territory)
    13) 1 April, 1999 Nunavut Territory

  • Smiling-Knife

    One more for Canada Day. Pal Brand 1924-1939 from Goins' Encyclopedia. Any further information greatly appreciated.

    [img]http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q265/smiling-knife/01-07005.jpg[/img]


  • In Memoriam

    Robert Burris

    Happy Day Canada and Happy Day Canadians! I love that little Boker, with all the provincial sheilds. A really special knife for Canada.

  • Jan Carter

    SK,

    That is a sweet little knife, and a PAL.  Cool

  • peter force

    eh,ever here of POWELL RIVER?

  • peter force

    well if you wanna see a awesome knife that was a gift shop knife from the 60-70s circa... made by schrade ... dead mint, marked on beautiful wood POWELL RIVER nice fatty ROPE KNIFE let me know,EH!...lol ... 

  • peter force

    ill dig out the pics...wasnt sure if anybody even knew where and what powell river is...when you see the knife ...its just amazing -the difference between what knives gift shops use to carry verse the little 1 inch key chain knives they carry now...ill dig out the few pics i have of it tonight...-pf

  • peter force

    ok now ya forced me ill have em up by tomorrow! damn wiki!!!


  • KnifeMaker

    Tim Ross

    It's quiet out there today eh?  

  • Jan Carter

    Ron,

    Your recent experience with getting a knife home to you from the US made me think...Are there a number of dealers in Canada?  I did find this company that has a unique approach.  They are based in US but they have another base in Montreal.  They can ship within Canada with no issues.  Has anyone dealt with them?

    http://www.truenorthknives.com/vcom/about_us.php

  • Jan Carter

    The Donnie one

  • Jan Carter

    Hey I read somewhere that Canada that Canada repealed the registering of long guns?

  • Jan Carter

    I really like the info on the MD knives.  I never knew about them before

  • Jan Carter

    What do you think Ron, finding any you need?

  • albert kilkenny

    Yes Canada no longer has a long gun registry, pistols and the like still have to be registered. And a Canadian citizen still needs to get a FAC firearms certificate. No longer does the transaction have to be registered.

  • Jan Carter

    This is a pretty cool site to check out that area

    http://www.lessonsfromtheland.ca/LandTrail.asp?SiteID=S07&lng=E...

  • Jan Carter

    Its a shame to lose someone that kept a good company alive and active.  Our thought are with the family

  • Luke

    Right on eh!  A place for us hosers! (lol my American operating system doesn't recognize "hosers" as a word).  Glad to see there are collectors up north here too.

  • Steve Scheuerman (Manx)

    Hosers with sharp things...now we just need beer...lol

  • Jan Carter

    This is a commemorative model of the current Pusser Dirk (regulation issue knife) for the Canadian Navy made by Grohmann Knives...

  • Jan Carter

  • Jan Carter

    well now just check that out!  If you cannot get one, you have a pattern right there!

  • Shlomo ben Maved

    Try finding some Connolly Hide Care (http://www.leathercaredirect.com/index.php) or Gliptone (http://www.gliptone.com/leather_care.htm) both are used on and by Rolls Royce, Bentley, Maybach, Jaguar, Ferrari etc.

  • Jan Carter

  • Mike Baugh

    First of all let me say thank you for adding me to the group. I am fairly new to knife collecting, so please bear with me. 

    Here is an old girl I haven't been able to find any info one what-so-ever. Has anyone seen this or can let me in on some info about it? It's a Sheffield, Canada Confederation 1867-1967 . Any help would be great! 

     

  • albert kilkenny

  • Mike Baugh

    Thanks Albert!

  • albert kilkenny

    Welcome