Thanks Jan. The force to snap an Old Timer of 50 years ago would have been super human. Yes 64 is much too hard for prying something. Personally I don't pry with any knife. It would have to be an extraordinary situation to cause me to pry with my knife. You break the knife and game over.
Interesting story because I was just using one of my Buck fixed blades for prying just the other day. When I was done I looked at my beautiful Buck 120 with a Stag handle and told myself I had just done something very, very, very stupid. I don't think I will ever do that again unless it's for survival or for an emergency.
Contact Buck and see if they will not repair the damage. I know most of the knife companies do.
Gerber fixed an Auto Stryker for me. I bought this knife in the 2,000 year old market in As Sulaymaniyah Kurdistan/Iraq. The blade tip was broke off and someone did a very bad job of filing the blade to a point. The U.S. Army (by unit) issued these knives to their men. It was a logistic Sgt. who ordered them and then issued them out. After I returned home I gave this knife to my Son.
If you have a problem with Buck, message me and I will see what I can do.
I don't think there are many steels/set up that would endure 30-40 degree bends at rockwell 64. Maybe CPM3V might hold up at rockwell 61. But in general you REALLY don't want to be using anything over rockwell 56 for pry duty.
There's exceptions offcourse. Like the really thick 1/4" knives. But in general they compromise on their cutting ability.
it really bugs me when someone uses the wrong tool to do a job, like a knife as a pry bar, and yet I find myself doing it too. if we could only carry our whole tool box with us at all times this would never happen.
Hey Aubrey, Are you talking about your profile pic?
Those are some very good makers. But the picture is so small that it's almost impossible to see the knives. I'd love for you to post that picture here in the full size.
My steel salesman has asked that I pick out another knife. He has to use his "expense cash" before they take it. He asked that I not pick a custom knife since we are still waiting for the Medford knife he ordered for me last Christmas. I was looking at some Bark River knives last night, but was undecided. I have a $400 limit, ideas?
Brad, I'm curious why you're considering Bark River knives. I don't know much about them and would like to hear what you and other members of this forum think of their quality vs. price. None of the Bark River knives I've seen online have finger guards on them, which IMO is an indispensable feature of every fixed blade outdoor knife except maybe a neck knife or Cold Steel's Bushman knives. What is it about Bark River's knives that appeals to you?
Terry- I have looked at a lot of different knives and I was drawn to this maker because of the materials used and some reviews I've read.
The biggest reason is because it will cost me nothing out of pocket to try out this manufacturer's product. I wasn't a big fan of Spyderco until I started getting them as gifts from this same friend/salesman. I've been carrying my PM2 or Southard ever since. That is saying a lot, since I was a diehard Benchmade fan, but that changed. Now I think BM is overpriced for the products they offer.
My opinion on the lack of a Finger guard is, a matter of preference. I will approach using this tool the same way I do any hand tool, distraction free and not to use beyond it's intended purpose. Most accidents involving sharp tools involve 1 of those 2. As a manager of a machine shop, I approach every tool knowing it's purpose and capabilities.
Well it sure is a nice looking knife. A-2 steel - would prefer a range of choices of steel, and for me, it's a little too pointy for skinning, a desired task. But hey, if you were throwing knives in a pack for bugging out, just make room for this one.
Howard- The knife I will be getting today is of CPM3V. Bark River has a large selection of styles and most are available in A2, Elmax, CPM3V & S35VN. The Little caper would handle your skinning requirements.
A few years ago I picked up a set of Bark Rivers for hunting = Bravo 1 with a little finger groove caper. Sanded off the finish of the Bravo 1 as it was way too shiny (Canvas or Linen Micarta, forget which).
I received this beauty from Montana knife maker Lou Morton today. It measures 8 1/2 inches over all, with a 3 1/2 inch blade of D2 steel. Handle scales are Arizona Desert Ironwood collected about 70 miles east of Yuma. I call it a Custom Camp Muck.
This one's been one of the favorites in my collection for years now (though I'm always amazed at how many favorites I seem to have in that collection). This was the first version of the Justin Gingrich designed Ranger RD-4 as made by Ontario knives. Bright orange G10 & the blade was made of 1095 back then...
Not up with modern fixed blade makers, but like a vintage knife. Looking forward to learning some things. I collect US ww2, when I can, but UK prices are crazy to say the least ! Here's a nice dagger from across the pond:
New to the group, could use some help on any history on this recent addition to my collection of military fixed collection - Ka-Bar - see attached photos and this detail: 13.75" long, leather stack handle, double edge dagger style.
My new White River knife collection has finally arrived at the store!! From now until January 1st , you will receive a $25 gift certificate with any White River knife order. (good for use on anything in the store on any future order) White River Promo
Here is an unusual fixed blade knife, made in a city in the African country of Uganda. The men of Bamba have been taught to make such knives. The brand is called Bamba Forge.
Jan Carter
I agree Howard 64 seems too brittle for that kind of flexibility
Oct 12, 2015
Jan Carter
Clint,
GREAT story and your right, it need to hold an edge. But maybe the steel would have helped it not snap LOL
Oct 12, 2015
Clint Thompson
Thanks Jan. The force to snap an Old Timer of 50 years ago would have been super human. Yes 64 is much too hard for prying something. Personally I don't pry with any knife. It would have to be an extraordinary situation to cause me to pry with my knife. You break the knife and game over.
Oct 12, 2015
Jan Carter
Oh I agree, there is a great invention called a pry bar LOL
Oct 12, 2015
Ms Data
Interesting story because I was just using one of my Buck fixed blades for prying just the other day. When I was done I looked at my beautiful Buck 120 with a Stag handle and told myself I had just done something very, very, very stupid. I don't think I will ever do that again unless it's for survival or for an emergency.
Oct 22, 2015
Clint Thompson
Ms Data....
Contact Buck and see if they will not repair the damage. I know most of the knife companies do.
Gerber fixed an Auto Stryker for me. I bought this knife in the 2,000 year old market in As Sulaymaniyah Kurdistan/Iraq. The blade tip was broke off and someone did a very bad job of filing the blade to a point. The U.S. Army (by unit) issued these knives to their men. It was a logistic Sgt. who ordered them and then issued them out. After I returned home I gave this knife to my Son.
If you have a problem with Buck, message me and I will see what I can do.
Oct 22, 2015
Alexander Noot
I don't think there are many steels/set up that would endure 30-40 degree bends at rockwell 64. Maybe CPM3V might hold up at rockwell 61. But in general you REALLY don't want to be using anything over rockwell 56 for pry duty.
There's exceptions offcourse. Like the really thick 1/4" knives. But in general they compromise on their cutting ability.
Oct 23, 2015
Michael Squier
it really bugs me when someone uses the wrong tool to do a job, like a knife as a pry bar, and yet I find myself doing it too. if we could only carry our whole tool box with us at all times this would never happen.
Oct 23, 2015
Aubrey Thompson
ORIGINAL KNIVES FROM ORIGINAL GUILD MEMBERS
FROM TOP TO BOTTOM
RUFFIN JOHNSON
W.C.JOHNSON
BOB [SKY] HAJOVSKY
Oct 28, 2015
Alexander Noot
Hey Aubrey, Are you talking about your profile pic?
Those are some very good makers. But the picture is so small that it's almost impossible to see the knives. I'd love for you to post that picture here in the full size.
Oct 29, 2015
Brad T.
My steel salesman has asked that I pick out another knife. He has to use his "expense cash" before they take it. He asked that I not pick a custom knife since we are still waiting for the Medford knife he ordered for me last Christmas. I was looking at some Bark River knives last night, but was undecided. I have a $400 limit, ideas?
Nov 3, 2015
Clint Thompson
Brad...
I would say what a nice guy. Here at this site are deeply discounter Bark River knives: http://www.dlttrading.com/bark-river-overstocks-discounted-knives
Nov 3, 2015
Howard P Reynolds
Brad,
Here's another Bark River retailer.
http://www.greatlakesurvival.com/bark-river-knives.html
They offer free blade options, such as removing the ramp (field version), standard, swedge grind, spear point, and drop point blade configurations.
Nov 3, 2015
Terry Waldele
Brad, I'm curious why you're considering Bark River knives. I don't know much about them and would like to hear what you and other members of this forum think of their quality vs. price. None of the Bark River knives I've seen online have finger guards on them, which IMO is an indispensable feature of every fixed blade outdoor knife except maybe a neck knife or Cold Steel's Bushman knives. What is it about Bark River's knives that appeals to you?
Nov 3, 2015
Shlomo ben Maved
Other Bark River Dealers
http://www.mcknightcutlery.com/
https://www.theknifeconnection.net/
http://davesknifeworld.com/
http://www.crystalfallstradingco.com/
and the largest dealer by far
https://www.knivesshipfree.com/
Nov 3, 2015
Brad T.
Terry- I have looked at a lot of different knives and I was drawn to this maker because of the materials used and some reviews I've read.
The biggest reason is because it will cost me nothing out of pocket to try out this manufacturer's product. I wasn't a big fan of Spyderco until I started getting them as gifts from this same friend/salesman. I've been carrying my PM2 or Southard ever since. That is saying a lot, since I was a diehard Benchmade fan, but that changed. Now I think BM is overpriced for the products they offer.
My opinion on the lack of a Finger guard is, a matter of preference. I will approach using this tool the same way I do any hand tool, distraction free and not to use beyond it's intended purpose. Most accidents involving sharp tools involve 1 of those 2. As a manager of a machine shop, I approach every tool knowing it's purpose and capabilities.
Nov 6, 2015
Brad T.
Shlomo ben Maved- My friend ordered a Bravo 1.25 CPM3V last night. It is gorgeous. Should have this time next week.
Nov 6, 2015
Jan Carter
Brad,
Next try a white river or a battle horse
In the meantime, enjoy this one and let us know how you feel about it! Barkies are great
Nov 7, 2015
Brad T.
I want the Seax or the Seax Bantam next time.
Nov 9, 2015
Howard P Reynolds
Brad T,
Well it sure is a nice looking knife. A-2 steel - would prefer a range of choices of steel, and for me, it's a little too pointy for skinning, a desired task. But hey, if you were throwing knives in a pack for bugging out, just make room for this one.
Nov 9, 2015
Shlomo ben Maved
I want a CPM3V Canadian Special and a Pro Scalpel ll
Nov 9, 2015
Brad T.
Howard- The knife I will be getting today is of CPM3V. Bark River has a large selection of styles and most are available in A2, Elmax, CPM3V & S35VN. The Little caper would handle your skinning requirements.
Nov 10, 2015
Howard P Reynolds
Thanks Brad T.,
A few years ago I picked up a set of Bark Rivers for hunting = Bravo 1 with a little finger groove caper. Sanded off the finish of the Bravo 1 as it was way too shiny (Canvas or Linen Micarta, forget which).
Nov 10, 2015
Howard P Reynolds
Brad T.,
I like CPM3V, but don't have a Bark River in that Steel. Have a couple Survive Knives in CPM3V - GSO 7-7 and a GSO-10.
Nov 10, 2015
Alexander Noot
Brad, gotta admit...if I WERE to buy a factory blade it would probably be either a Bark River....or a Blackjack (which is produced by BRK).
Good choice.
Nov 20, 2015
Rick Zolla
I received this beauty from Montana knife maker Lou Morton today. It measures 8 1/2 inches over all, with a 3 1/2 inch blade of D2 steel. Handle scales are Arizona Desert Ironwood collected about 70 miles east of Yuma. I call it a Custom Camp Muck.
Jan 15, 2016
Jan Carter
Rick,
It is a beauty and I too am a fan of D2. The size seems to be a good one for me, so tell me...is it a user?
Jan 15, 2016
Jan Carter
May 22, 2016
Michael Squier
Jun 19, 2016
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Jeremy B. Buchanan
Those are some great, vintage knives Michael
Jun 20, 2016
Serge S.
Got a mail - small skinner, 3.5 inch blade carbon steel.
No sheath, but I think it will soon appear.
Friends, do you think, it is better to use a sheath rawhide or vegetable tanned saddle leather?
Jun 23, 2016
Michael Squier
Im not sure anout the sheath, but thats a nice looking small skinner.
Jun 29, 2016
Jan Carter
Our Rhino handle is equipped with an OLIGHT. Check it out at Southe...
Oct 4, 2016
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dead_left_knife_guy
This one's been one of the favorites in my collection for years now (though I'm always amazed at how many favorites I seem to have in that collection). This was the first version of the Justin Gingrich designed Ranger RD-4 as made by Ontario knives. Bright orange G10 & the blade was made of 1095 back then...
Apr 29, 2017
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dead_left_knife_guy
Kabar Reinhardt Kukri
Jul 29, 2018
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dead_left_knife_guy
TOPS Iraq-Jac (quite a bit smaller than the Kabar Reinhardt Kukri)...
Jul 29, 2018
tony wing
Not up with modern fixed blade makers, but like a vintage knife. Looking forward to learning some things. I collect US ww2, when I can, but UK prices are crazy to say the least ! Here's a nice dagger from across the pond:
Aug 24, 2018
Rich
New to the group, could use some help on any history on this recent addition to my collection of military fixed collection - Ka-Bar - see attached photos and this detail: 13.75" long, leather stack handle, double edge dagger style.
Thanks in advance for your attention
Rich
Jan 14, 2019
Jan Carter
RARE Remington RH46 Hunting Knife Loc FD1
Oct 19, 2022
Jan Carter
Just got this email
My new White River knife collection has finally arrived at the store!! From now until January 1st , you will receive a $25 gift certificate with any White River knife order. (good for use on anything in the store on any future order) White River Promo
Nov 7, 2022
George R Naugle
A few fixed blade knives from my collection. these three are from South Africa. The knifemaker is Arno Bernard.
Jan 28, 2023
George R Naugle
A few more. These are all Queen knives.
Jan 28, 2023
George R Naugle
One more time. From left: Western, Buck skinner, and Case
Jan 28, 2023
George R Naugle
New to the group. I am a sucker for fixed blade knives, especially those with pretty wood handles.
Jan 28, 2023
George R Naugle
Here is an unusual fixed blade knife, made in a city in the African country of Uganda. The men of Bamba have been taught to make such knives. The brand is called Bamba Forge.
Jan 29, 2023
Eric Hall
I have one from Bamba Forge too.
Jan 29, 2023
George R Naugle
Nice one, Eric.
Jan 29, 2023
Eric Hall
Thank you George. I like yours too.
Jan 29, 2023
George R Naugle
A Jesse Hemphil knife:
Feb 1, 2023
George R Naugle
A Lon Humphrey knife:
Feb 1, 2023