Jack- Hate to disagree with Shlomo but your knife is Cuban not Argentinian, I believe.
Weyersberg Hermanos translates in Spanish to Weyersberg Brothers-Weyersberg moved to Solingen-ohligs in 1925 so your knife is of that vintage. It was pretty common practice to mark tang and blade stamps for the Cuban market. In Cuba, they simply call this knife a large Bowie.The helmuted figure on the handle is Athena. Some of these knives also carried the stamp Viva Cuba if carried by a Revolutionary.
actually... if i am not mistakem.. that knife was made in germany by Weyersberg Brothers, and marked in spanish for export to cuba.. after the spanish american mar caba was a hotspot for alot of things.. before that Weyersberg Brothers was located in soligen germany.
Thanks for the input, gents. IIRC, I did some research when I first acquired it. Of course, I cannot now find that info, but I seem to remember that the Cuban ones were so marked. But, that's just my ancient memory working, there.
In any case, I appreciate the info!
BTW, I forgot to mention that there is 'A (star figure) 1' above the maker's name. Does that help anyone?
Sorry for the mix up but theGerman influence in Argentina threw and that the blades look very similar to the Gaucho knives I've got--but by different makers.
**1) Facón con S de cabo de guampa y hoja de machete.
Well it seems that I wasn't completely wrong as Weyersberg has been in Solingen since 1787 and catered to the Spanish trade quite a bit by providing knives, axes, machetes, farm tools etc. to Mexico, Central and South America, Cuba, The Philippines and Spain itself.
They did make gaucho knives under their own stamp as well as Argentine machetes under the Corneta brand.
They were mostly supplying the bayonets for the M1889/91/93 Mausers that the Spanish forces used, as well as the South African Boers.
In 1964 they formed with another company Imacasa in El Salvador who in turn created Condor in 2004.
shlomo, yes.. i believed they were a german company.. and the tang stamps were written in the language they were being exported to. they branched off into three different compamies tho... all in different parts of germany if i am not mistaken. the spanish american war opened up the trade for them to cuba tho.
Getting back to fish knives (sorry, Tobias, I can't figure out how to get back to that thread), I bought this knife in an ebay auction. (See 3 pictures below.) No marlin-spike here, but there is what appears to be a shackle wrench, incorporating another boat essential. The main blade is partially serrated, necessary for making short work of whale blubber. The soft-plastic handle encloses the folding function and provides a half-stop for the blades. The handle will glow in the dark after a breif exposure to sunlight or even bathroom light, which is how I know this. The knife came to me working correctly, but the handle was pretty dirty. Both blades look unused and are extremely stiff; I oiled them with no improvement; I hammered a spacer-blade that I keep on the bench for opening up too-tight joints, but got no improvement. I hesitate to go any further because the whole is enclosed with plastic; I'd hate to over-loosen the mechanism and fail to get it closed up again. Tang stamp reads: FRANCE . Blade is stamped WICHARD, and the ad on the handle reads (in English): West Marine. Anyway, that's my find of the week.
W hat you have is a one of the Wichards sailing knives. They make it with a single blade, a blade and shackler, and a third one with a marlinspike. I have the single blade type. They sell price new is in the $40 range which I find them pricey considering for the quality. The blade steel is 318L Stainless which is the steel used in butter knives, teaspoons, and stainless steel mixing bowls.
Yours is the Ref# 10052. (mine is a #10042)
My single blade seems to open okay. My guess is the blades on yours are pretty stiff from not being used much. I'd suggest repeatedly opening over and over and possibly rinsing the joints with scalding hot water for a while and then dousing it with a lot of WD-40 to get the water out. Some times it is just dust and gook that is causing the blades to be hard to open.
As for the discussions, the easiest way to find a discussion is click on the "View All" tab under Discussion Forum. The n just scan the list of all discussions.
Below is my 10042, I found on eBay some time back. I've tried sharpening but it pretty much doesn't hold much of an edge. They should have given it a similar micro-serration found on Ginzu or Cutco steak knives.
My Buck Clearwater 021 Bait Knife. As bait knives go, this is a big one!
The serrated back doubles as a bone saw and scaler.
The knife rattles in the sheath but the knife locks in quite well.
Made in the USA Blade steel is 420HC. I'm thinking of also picking up the the Buck Silver Creek that is made in Japan using for 420J2 and putting them in a side by side test this summer.
AS Stainless Japan Chesapeake Petroleum 948-3150 Folding Pocket Knife Scissors Combo, marked AS Stainless Japan on one side of the scissors and Des. Pat. Pend. on the other. 12.8" long extended, closed 4.75" , blade is 4".
some good looking knives there Tim... the hammer brand coke bottle jack is a real beaut ! reminds me alot of the schatt and morgan coke bottle jack... sweet knives, three times !
My recent obsession has been full tang utility fishing Knives (aka Bait knives) I bought one from eBay's sirbladesalot (Steve Koontz of Knives Live Fame) a few weeks ago for dirt cheap. The sheath was so dry rotted that it pretty much fell apart but the knife was in pretty good shape. Good enough that it deserved a new sheath so I started making one. I wanted to make something that was fitting for this old Colonial. I wanted it to be a one of a kind multi-functional sheath and I wanted it to me for folk-art than hi-tech. Here what I have so far
First the Colonial knife with its ivory colored jigged delrin scales.
I opted to use wood for the sheath, Nothing says folk art like wood
A fish scabbard for a fish knife!
The leather strap was the only part of the original sheath worth saving! I broke my rivet gun attaching it to the wood. What knid of wood? I'm not sure, I bought it several years back when I was making some new knife scales. The scabbard is made of 4 layers or the wood held together with waterproof marine epoxy.
Tthe scabbard was rough shaped using a jeweler's saw, and an exactor knife and then card and shaped using a dremel and one rough rider whittler. I've still got a long way to go, more sanding, painting, laquering, etc. I also need to add the ruler to back side of the the scabbard that will not only measure my catch but be used to attach the fish scabbard to a belt! That will be the multi function part. I'm also thinking of adding a scale for weighing fish.
The bottom of the scabbard is open to allow fro drainage. You can see some spots that need filling. I'll post more when the job is done!
I will be looking at some friction folders soon at a custom knife show this month. I will see if i like them. They look like they would be easy to make at a reasonable price. I may just get one. Thank you for showing them.
I have a neat little bench top belt sander, (has a 6" disc on the side too), that I used when I worked as a musical instrument tech and got real comfortable using on jobs like that. Other than my cordless drill & my Dremel it's my most used power tool. You could make short work of that finishing job, and I can supply various grit belts to do it with. You can borrow it if you pay the postage Tobias!
Syd, thanks for the offer but I've always enjoyed doing wood work as manually as possible. Heck! It took me about ten years to break down and buy a cordless screwdriver! (The Carpal Tunnel got to the point I couln't hold the screwdriver!) I've have a few power tools but those are mostly used for home repair, not my hobbies!
It is one of those quirky codes i live my life by. I've built most of the Cutlery Cavern and now I'm working on remodeling Tiki Lounge with nothing more than a hack saw, a wood saw, a hammer, and a cordless screwdriver. It's my way of dealing with stress.
I was kinda kidding Tobias, but I WOULD send it to you if you needed it. I understand, you get more gratification when you build something literally "by hand", like so many of the "scratch-built" model airplanes I've built in my life. There are a couple of locals here who build canoes and dinghys with hand tools only, preferably "vintage" hand tools. They don't even own a power tool, so I completely "get it". Make sure and post pics when you get that sheath finished.
Syd, when it comes to building canoes, I usually go high-tech and break out modern man made materials like old kitty litter containers, PVC piping, duct tape, and speaker wire.
Sure I could buy one of those portable fishing pontoons for $200 but why do that when you've got a bunch of junk just laying around waiting to be re-purposed! I built in about a 30 minutes and after using it for a week, it remained in excellent shape. It would take in about a cup of water a day, which was easily emptied. (I scrapped it after the end of vacation as it I'm seriously thinking of making a sail boat out of kitty litter containers. I just don't know if its legal
Just throwing out an idea and figured this is one of the best place to start. I'm thinking of forming a group to discuss fishing. I'm think everything from sharing fishing stories, advice on gear, etc. Of course a good chunk would also focus on collecting vintage tackle and knives as well as what you use when you go fishing today. Would people be interested in such a group?
Tobias Gibson
Jack, Shlomo, and Michael. Those are some really nice looking big blades!
May 20, 2015
In Memoriam
John McCain
Jack- Hate to disagree with Shlomo but your knife is Cuban not Argentinian, I believe.
Weyersberg Hermanos translates in Spanish to Weyersberg Brothers-Weyersberg moved to Solingen-ohligs in 1925 so your knife is of that vintage. It was pretty common practice to mark tang and blade stamps for the Cuban market. In Cuba, they simply call this knife a large Bowie.The helmuted figure on the handle is Athena. Some of these knives also carried the stamp Viva Cuba if carried by a Revolutionary.
May 20, 2015
jeff
actually... if i am not mistakem.. that knife was made in germany by Weyersberg Brothers, and marked in spanish for export to cuba.. after the spanish american mar caba was a hotspot for alot of things.. before that Weyersberg Brothers was located in soligen germany.
May 20, 2015
jeff
typo... war not mar ans cuba not caba. sorry
May 20, 2015
Jack
In any case, I appreciate the info!
BTW, I forgot to mention that there is 'A (star figure) 1' above the maker's name. Does that help anyone?
May 20, 2015
Shlomo ben Maved
Sorry for the mix up but the German influence in Argentina threw and that the blades look very similar to the Gaucho knives I've got--but by different makers.
**1) Facón con S de cabo de guampa y hoja de machete.
2, 4, 7, y 8) Facón daga.
3) Facón de plata con S.
**5) Facón caronero de hoja de espada.
6) Cuchillo cabo de madera dura.
www.noroestebonaerense.com.ar
May 21, 2015
Michael Squier
May 21, 2015
Shlomo ben Maved
Well it seems that I wasn't completely wrong as Weyersberg has been in Solingen since 1787 and catered to the Spanish trade quite a bit by providing knives, axes, machetes, farm tools etc. to Mexico, Central and South America, Cuba, The Philippines and Spain itself.
They did make gaucho knives under their own stamp as well as Argentine machetes under the Corneta brand.
They were mostly supplying the bayonets for the M1889/91/93 Mausers that the Spanish forces used, as well as the South African Boers.
In 1964 they formed with another company Imacasa in El Salvador who in turn created Condor in 2004.
May 21, 2015
Jan Carter
Some amazing info on companies and the moves they have made. The gaucho knives are very cool!
May 21, 2015
jeff
shlomo, yes.. i believed they were a german company.. and the tang stamps were written in the language they were being exported to. they branched off into three different compamies tho... all in different parts of germany if i am not mistaken. the spanish american war opened up the trade for them to cuba tho.
May 21, 2015
Bryan OShaughnessy
May 25, 2015
Bryan OShaughnessy
Getting back to fish knives (sorry, Tobias, I can't figure out how to get back to that thread), I bought this knife in an ebay auction. (See 3 pictures below.) No marlin-spike here, but there is what appears to be a shackle wrench, incorporating another boat essential. The main blade is partially serrated, necessary for making short work of whale blubber. The soft-plastic handle encloses the folding function and provides a half-stop for the blades. The handle will glow in the dark after a breif exposure to sunlight or even bathroom light, which is how I know this. The knife came to me working correctly, but the handle was pretty dirty. Both blades look unused and are extremely stiff; I oiled them with no improvement; I hammered a spacer-blade that I keep on the bench for opening up too-tight joints, but got no improvement. I hesitate to go any further because the whole is enclosed with plastic; I'd hate to over-loosen the mechanism and fail to get it closed up again. Tang stamp reads: FRANCE . Blade is stamped WICHARD, and the ad on the handle reads (in English): West Marine. Anyway, that's my find of the week.
May 25, 2015
Tobias Gibson
Hi Bryan,
W hat you have is a one of the Wichards sailing knives. They make it with a single blade, a blade and shackler, and a third one with a marlinspike. I have the single blade type. They sell price new is in the $40 range which I find them pricey considering for the quality. The blade steel is 318L Stainless which is the steel used in butter knives, teaspoons, and stainless steel mixing bowls.
Yours is the Ref# 10052. (mine is a #10042)
My single blade seems to open okay. My guess is the blades on yours are pretty stiff from not being used much. I'd suggest repeatedly opening over and over and possibly rinsing the joints with scalding hot water for a while and then dousing it with a lot of WD-40 to get the water out. Some times it is just dust and gook that is causing the blades to be hard to open.
As for the discussions, the easiest way to find a discussion is click on the "View All" tab under Discussion Forum. The n just scan the list of all discussions.
The thread for sailing knives is at:
http://iknifecollector.com/group/knifepatterns/forum/topics/marlin-...
The thread for fishing knives is at:
http://iknifecollector.com/group/knifepatterns/forum/topics/fish-kn...
Below is my 10042, I found on eBay some time back. I've tried sharpening but it pretty much doesn't hold much of an edge. They should have given it a similar micro-serration found on Ginzu or Cutco steak knives.
May 26, 2015
Bryan OShaughnessy
Tobias: Thanks for the heads up on the knife and following a thread. I'll try to work the knife free as you recommend. Thanks again. --B
May 26, 2015
Tobias Gibson
My Buck Clearwater 021 Bait Knife. As bait knives go, this is a big one!
May 30, 2015
Patti Olsen
I look forward to learning here!
Jun 4, 2015
Tobias Gibson
Patti, questions are always welcome. If you have a pattern you would like to know more about or a knife you'd like identified, feel free to ask away!
Jun 5, 2015
tim payne
Jun 5, 2015
tim payne
Jun 5, 2015
tim payne
Jun 5, 2015
KnifeMaker
Chris Sievert
I like that scissor knife Tim!
Jun 5, 2015
tim payne
thanks chris
Jun 5, 2015
Ron Cooper
I love that coffin style shape on your all stainless Japanese knife, below!
A very interesting piece - To say the very least!
And, size wise, the thing is a behemoth!
Cool and unusual knife - I love it!
Jun 5, 2015
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Charles Sample
Some nice knives Tim!
Jun 5, 2015
jeff
some good looking knives there Tim... the hammer brand coke bottle jack is a real beaut ! reminds me alot of the schatt and morgan coke bottle jack... sweet knives, three times !
Jun 5, 2015
Michael Squier
Good stuff as always Tim.
Jun 5, 2015
tim payne
thank you ron
Jun 5, 2015
tim payne
appreciate it charles
Jun 5, 2015
tim payne
thank you times 3 jeff
Jun 5, 2015
tim payne
thank ya michael
Jun 5, 2015
KnifeMaker
Chris Sievert
my favorite Knife Pattern is....
Jun 5, 2015
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Charles Sample
Neat Chris.
Jun 5, 2015
Shlomo ben Maved
Ka-Bar Dozier Phat Bob Folder
with Green Canvas Micarta Handles.
Model: KA4082
4 1/8" closedLinerlock.
3 1/8"
AUS-8A stainless spear point
Jun 6, 2015
Shlomo ben Maved
Ka-Bar Dozier Folding Hunter.
4 1/4" closed lockback.
Black finish AUS-8
Zytel scales
Jun 6, 2015
Shlomo ben Maved
Bob Dozier
DK-FHL Large Folding Hunter
Overall Length - 8" open
Blade Length - 3 1/2"
Blade Thickness - .150"
Price $575
Compared to the Hunter $20.00 and
Phat Bob $50 approx.
Jun 6, 2015
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Charles Sample
Nice ones Shlomo!
Jun 6, 2015
Michael Squier
nice colection of folding Doziers.
Jun 6, 2015
Shlomo ben Maved
I have all the versions of the Ka-Bar Doziers--fixed and folding but then I collect and use his knives a lot. Also have the Boker versions as well.
Jun 6, 2015
Tobias Gibson
My recent obsession has been full tang utility fishing Knives (aka Bait knives) I bought one from eBay's sirbladesalot (Steve Koontz of Knives Live Fame) a few weeks ago for dirt cheap. The sheath was so dry rotted that it pretty much fell apart but the knife was in pretty good shape. Good enough that it deserved a new sheath so I started making one. I wanted to make something that was fitting for this old Colonial. I wanted it to be a one of a kind multi-functional sheath and I wanted it to me for folk-art than hi-tech. Here what I have so far
First the Colonial knife with its ivory colored jigged delrin scales.
Tthe scabbard was rough shaped using a jeweler's saw, and an exactor knife and then card and shaped using a dremel and one rough rider whittler. I've still got a long way to go, more sanding, painting, laquering, etc. I also need to add the ruler to back side of the the scabbard that will not only measure my catch but be used to attach the fish scabbard to a belt! That will be the multi function part. I'm also thinking of adding a scale for weighing fish.
Jun 6, 2015
jack walker
I will be looking at some friction folders soon at a custom knife show this month. I will see if i like them. They look like they would be easy to make at a reasonable price. I may just get one. Thank you for showing them.
Jun 6, 2015
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Charles Sample
Looking good Tobias!
Jun 6, 2015
Patti Olsen
That is a pretty neat wooden sheath Tobias... I haven't seen one quite like that!
Jun 7, 2015
Syd Carr
I'm with Patti, that's a great idea Tobias.
I have a neat little bench top belt sander, (has a 6" disc on the side too), that I used when I worked as a musical instrument tech and got real comfortable using on jobs like that. Other than my cordless drill & my Dremel it's my most used power tool. You could make short work of that finishing job, and I can supply various grit belts to do it with. You can borrow it if you pay the postage Tobias!
Jun 7, 2015
KnifeMaker
Chris Sievert
Looks like Rock Maple.....
Jun 7, 2015
Tobias Gibson
Syd, thanks for the offer but I've always enjoyed doing wood work as manually as possible. Heck! It took me about ten years to break down and buy a cordless screwdriver! (The Carpal Tunnel got to the point I couln't hold the screwdriver!) I've have a few power tools but those are mostly used for home repair, not my hobbies!
It is one of those quirky codes i live my life by. I've built most of the Cutlery Cavern and now I'm working on remodeling Tiki Lounge with nothing more than a hack saw, a wood saw, a hammer, and a cordless screwdriver. It's my way of dealing with stress.
Jun 7, 2015
Syd Carr
I was kinda kidding Tobias, but I WOULD send it to you if you needed it. I understand, you get more gratification when you build something literally "by hand", like so many of the "scratch-built" model airplanes I've built in my life. There are a couple of locals here who build canoes and dinghys with hand tools only, preferably "vintage" hand tools. They don't even own a power tool, so I completely "get it". Make sure and post pics when you get that sheath finished.
Jun 7, 2015
J.J. Smith III
If you get around to making the friction folders Jack, keep me in mind if you sell some.
Jun 8, 2015
Tobias Gibson
Syd, when it comes to building canoes, I usually go high-tech and break out modern man made materials like old kitty litter containers, PVC piping, duct tape, and speaker wire.
Jun 8, 2015
Tobias Gibson
Just throwing out an idea and figured this is one of the best place to start. I'm thinking of forming a group to discuss fishing. I'm think everything from sharing fishing stories, advice on gear, etc. Of course a good chunk would also focus on collecting vintage tackle and knives as well as what you use when you go fishing today. Would people be interested in such a group?
Jun 8, 2015
Syd Carr
I would Tobias, I have a bumper sticker that says "Id Rather Be Fishing": so yup, I'd be in on a thread like that.
Jun 9, 2015