A.G. Russell Knives is the oldest mail order knife company in the world. We sell only the finest cutlery from William Henry, Randall, Böker, Columbia River Knife & Tool, Kershaw, SOG, Benchmade, Spyerdco, Canal Street Cutlery, and more.
I do not mean to be rude, but, it would be a great kindness if you would post pictures of Jim Frost's knives on his forum, rather than mine. It is very painful to be reminded that he has owned the mark since 1980.
WHAT! This is supposed to be one of yours. It's a Bertram. That's the reason I bought it, I thought it was one of yours. I'm lost, Mr. AG. This knife was aged to be from the 70's to the 80's. The tang stamp is "Bertram..cutlery..Rostifrei..241DS. You are not being rude, but very helpful for a beginner like me. Please tell me where I went wrong.
I don't know if I can help but I will try. My knowledge is limited so please take this with a grain of salt.
Any Hen & Rooster knife with "Rostifrei" and/or a model number along the spine of the blade near the tang is a post-1980 knife. I believe "Solingen" on the tang is also a sign of post-1980. The shield with the hen and the rooster on it also depicts post-1980.
Your knife might very well be from the 80's but it is from later than 1980. Most likely 1983 or newer.
A.G. owned Hen & Rooster from 1975 to 1980. Before then they were owned by Mr. Bertram and his family members. After 1980 they were owned by Frost and some other guy who's name I don't remember.
I thought that if it had Bertran on the tang stamp it was when Mr. AG. owned it and they had to change the stamp after it went through the courts. This is what I read in one of Mr. AG's catalogs. I still don't understand. I think I have been taken advantage of. Well, it won't be the first time....so sad.
Fellows, any Hen & Rooster knife with a model number or with a Hen & Rooster inlay was made for Jim Frost after the Summer of 1980, first by Klaas and then by Boker and now in Spain. If it says Bertram Cutlery then it is Frost. An email with a photo to agr@agr3.com will always get you an answer sooner or later.
A. G.
Sorry, I did not see Railsplitter's post until I had already written the above
Well, thank you Mr. AG. I paid $55 dollars and thought I had made a great deal. The baby barlows you have for sale are just alike. You have some with wood for $125 and some with problem ivory for around $200. So I thought one with stag was worth some where in between. It's not your fault, just my rookie mistake. I will learn from this and become a better collector. Thanks so much for your time, Mr. AG.
If you want to see the real deal go to http://www.cuttingedge.com/ and look at the Hen & Roosters there right now there are some collector club knives made by Hen & Rooster when AG own them they are the CM 4, 5 , 7 & 8. 4 & 8 are barlows. This site is run by AG's team and clear identfies the Hen Rooster knives a safe place to shop.
In early 1980 the German Government put Bertram GmbR into bankruptcy and when I tried to bid on the trademark they refused to allow me and sold the Bertram and Hen & Rooster trademarks to Jim Frost. Since the Summer of 1980 ALL Hen & Rooster knives made have been at the order of Frost.
HOWEVER
When they took the company away from me and put every body in the shop out of work, I had over 3,000 knives on hand, as well as the antiques that I bought when I bought the company. In the more than 30 years since then I have sold almost all of those knives and have few besides the antiques left.
I know all about the Cuttingedge, and the knives on there. This is why we have a good forum, to learn from our mistakes in this hobby of knife collecting. A knife advertised to be made in the 1970's should have been made when Mr. AG. owned the company. Instead it was made in the 1980's. I hope this helps other collectors not make the same mistake I did. I can live with it, I still have a fine little knife in great congition at a fair price.Although, It's not what I wanted. Thanks again Mr. AG.
Well, I finally pushed myself over the ledge and ordered the 2011 Texas Ranger. And because I figured it wouldn't like to travel alone across the ocean I got the Ultimate pen knife and the 3 inch titantium lockback and cooking tweezers to travel with it!
I didn't realise he had movies on YouTube. Maybe he should publicise them a bit more on his website. Perhaps the movies could talk about what kind of work each knife is best suited for, and show it in action? What do you think?
Totally agree. One of the maine problems with A.G. Russell's website is the size and quality of the pictures. Personally I've never seen worse pictures on a website. But the videos they make could solve everything.
mr. Russell, I'll have a look around for websites (vendors) that I do like the photo's of. The main issue that I have with the pictures on your site is that they're a bit grainy, somewhat vague. Half the time I have a hard time believing that it's a picture and it looks more like a painting type thing.
I have to agree that the pictures are low resolution and sometimes it's hard to get a feel for how big a knife is (measurements only help a bit). Examples - try Vintage knives, www.vintageknives.com, especially 'view more pictures'; www.dozierknives.com, especially 'featured inventory', and www.arizonacustomknives.com. AG Russell pictures are clearly done professionally, they just need to be larger and in high resolution. The 'biggest' view tends to only be a bit bigger. Setting the knife next to familiar objects would help show the scale of the knife, too.
Those are pretty good indeed Stephen. I agree trhat it's probably the resolution of the photo's. To me they also seem a little too "photoshopped". They might not be. But something about them doesn't look quite right.
I'll browse around some more. Offcourse none of these shops have the advantage of beind able to carry the Russell designed knives OR the fantastic garantee that A.G. offers. But the pictures they do are done very well.
"How Sweet It Is", Les that is one sweet little knife, you are lucky to have one. You will never waste your money buying an AG. Russell, it will hold it's value.
Well, got my package. The 2011 Texas Ranger is a monster of a slipjoint.
Here you see it next to a standard size lagioule for reference....and that lagioule is NOT a small knife. I love it though. The fit of one of the scales is a little less than what I was used to from the 2010 texas ranger. But still quite good.
Also love those little titanium handled knives. Excellent backups or for when you want to slip something unobtrusive in the pocket. Although the Ultimate pen knife is smaller than I expected.
Used the cooking tweezers in a BBQ yesterday. Excellent cooking tool and wonderfull companion to my folding Hocho. Shame that I had to pay such a large sum on import duties again....(€32 or close to $40) as well as shipping. The knives were placed in a MASSIVE box. But hey, it got here so I'm happy.
Alex, great set of knives, too bad about that import duty. I just recieved a Hen and Rooster knife from the time period that Mr. AG. owned it. I'd love to post a picture, maybe later.
Yeah. I'd still like to order from mr. Russell. For instance...the new 2012 Texas Ranger will be on the website any moment soon.
But this time I'll have my brother's girlfriend take it to the netherlands for me. It'll save on shipping and on import duties....giving me the knife at the price that it was meant to sell for.
Over a period of three days I had 4 or 5 opportunities to speak with a representative at A.G.Russell names Phil. We spoke about the first iKC knife, about NRA and AKTI and about many other things. I did have an opportunity to tell him that Mr. Russell is on my personal list of Most Admired Knife Company owners. He seems to have the ability to stay in touch with his customers. Phil said to me that he has never changed how he views the customers, from the very first one to the last person to buy a knife from them. KUDO's Mr. Russell and thanks for caring!
Mr. A.G., helped get me out of backwoods knife collecting to the more modern day experience, with the education of great knife makers and great knife steels. It's hard to learn when you are isolated from the rest of the knife world. I learned I could trust what he said and what he sold.
I just RE joined his knife club. I use to belong for years, I guess I forgot to pay my dues and was removed from their list. I fixed that, I'm back...lol
I have always felt that one of the indicators of a truly class act businessperson is how they treat you when you make a small purchase from them. I saw this demonstrated very recently when I took advantage of AG's free shipping offer. I bought probably one of the least expensive knives in AG's catalog - the Klaas Toothpick, $13.00 and some change. I was treated just as courteously, shipping was just as fast...just as if I were buying a Randall or the like. Things like that speak volumes to me.
Hello all, I just ordered a AG russell single blade sowbelly with cocobolo handles and a wharncliffe blade looks like a very nice knife. i have one of the large folding hunters with brown rucarta handles and love it. Any one else own a single blade sowbelly.
I've been when I was about 16, 16 years ago. And I was born in Provo UT. But other than that, nope. Not during my adult life anyway. I'm really looking forward to it though.
Alex, someone needs to post AG. Russell's knife show on the main page under knife events. Just like the other knife shows. Mr. AG. is probably way to busy getting things ready for his show to have time to post it.
In Memoriam
Robert Burris
The picture doen't show the true beauty of this little jewel!
Mar 8, 2012
In Memoriam
A. G. Russell
Robert,
I do not mean to be rude, but, it would be a great kindness if you would post pictures of Jim Frost's knives on his forum, rather than mine. It is very painful to be reminded that he has owned the mark since 1980.
thanks,
A. G.
Mar 8, 2012
In Memoriam
Robert Burris
WHAT! This is supposed to be one of yours. It's a Bertram. That's the reason I bought it, I thought it was one of yours. I'm lost, Mr. AG. This knife was aged to be from the 70's to the 80's. The tang stamp is "Bertram..cutlery..Rostifrei..241DS. You are not being rude, but very helpful for a beginner like me. Please tell me where I went wrong.
Mar 8, 2012
stephen tungate
yes mr.russell please tell us more all these knives since 1980 is frost knives?i don't understand...
Mar 8, 2012
Railsplitter
Robert,
I don't know if I can help but I will try. My knowledge is limited so please take this with a grain of salt.
Any Hen & Rooster knife with "Rostifrei" and/or a model number along the spine of the blade near the tang is a post-1980 knife. I believe "Solingen" on the tang is also a sign of post-1980. The shield with the hen and the rooster on it also depicts post-1980.
Your knife might very well be from the 80's but it is from later than 1980. Most likely 1983 or newer.
A.G. owned Hen & Rooster from 1975 to 1980. Before then they were owned by Mr. Bertram and his family members. After 1980 they were owned by Frost and some other guy who's name I don't remember.
Mar 8, 2012
In Memoriam
Robert Burris
I thought that if it had Bertran on the tang stamp it was when Mr. AG. owned it and they had to change the stamp after it went through the courts. This is what I read in one of Mr. AG's catalogs. I still don't understand. I think I have been taken advantage of. Well, it won't be the first time....so sad.
Mar 8, 2012
In Memoriam
A. G. Russell
Fellows, any Hen & Rooster knife with a model number or with a Hen & Rooster inlay was made for Jim Frost after the Summer of 1980, first by Klaas and then by Boker and now in Spain. If it says Bertram Cutlery then it is Frost. An email with a photo to agr@agr3.com will always get you an answer sooner or later.
A. G.
Sorry, I did not see Railsplitter's post until I had already written the above
Mar 8, 2012
In Memoriam
Robert Burris
Thanks Mr. AG. I am so disapointed, it's not what I thought I was buying. It's got to go and I'll start over. Thanks so much for your time and help.
Mar 8, 2012
In Memoriam
A. G. Russell
Robert,
I am really sorry, you misunderstood. We used Bertram GmbR and they call theirs Bertram Cutlery.
Mar 8, 2012
In Memoriam
A. G. Russell
Robert, if you paid $60 or 70 for the knife you got a good deal, if you paid $300 or $400 then you were robbed.
Mar 8, 2012
In Memoriam
Robert Burris
Well, thank you Mr. AG. I paid $55 dollars and thought I had made a great deal. The baby barlows you have for sale are just alike. You have some with wood for $125 and some with problem ivory for around $200. So I thought one with stag was worth some where in between. It's not your fault, just my rookie mistake. I will learn from this and become a better collector. Thanks so much for your time, Mr. AG.
Mar 8, 2012
Les Swalm
If you want to see the real deal go to http://www.cuttingedge.com/ and look at the Hen & Roosters there right now there are some collector club knives made by Hen & Rooster when AG own them they are the CM 4, 5 , 7 & 8. 4 & 8 are barlows. This site is run by AG's team and clear identfies the Hen Rooster knives a safe place to shop.
Mar 9, 2012
In Memoriam
A. G. Russell
Stephen,
In early 1980 the German Government put Bertram GmbR into bankruptcy and when I tried to bid on the trademark they refused to allow me and sold the Bertram and Hen & Rooster trademarks to Jim Frost. Since the Summer of 1980 ALL Hen & Rooster knives made have been at the order of Frost.
HOWEVER
When they took the company away from me and put every body in the shop out of work, I had over 3,000 knives on hand, as well as the antiques that I bought when I bought the company. In the more than 30 years since then I have sold almost all of those knives and have few besides the antiques left.
Mar 9, 2012
In Memoriam
Robert Burris
I know all about the Cuttingedge, and the knives on there. This is why we have a good forum, to learn from our mistakes in this hobby of knife collecting. A knife advertised to be made in the 1970's should have been made when Mr. AG. owned the company. Instead it was made in the 1980's. I hope this helps other collectors not make the same mistake I did. I can live with it, I still have a fine little knife in great congition at a fair price.Although, It's not what I wanted. Thanks again Mr. AG.
Mar 9, 2012
In Memoriam
A. G. Russell
Robert,
If you will get one real Hen & Rooster knife from pre 1980 and study it, inside and out you will never again be fooled.
Mar 9, 2012
In Memoriam
Robert Burris
That's my plan, I am looking hard at that Vest Pocket Skinner CM-7.
Mar 9, 2012
In Memoriam
Robert Burris
Congrats, Mr. A.G.!
Mar 28, 2012
Alexander Noot
Well, I finally pushed myself over the ledge and ordered the 2011 Texas Ranger. And because I figured it wouldn't like to travel alone across the ocean I got the Ultimate pen knife and the 3 inch titantium lockback and cooking tweezers to travel with it!
May 3, 2012
Alexander Noot
Just noticed that mr. Russell is bringing another one of his designs to life. Congratualtions mr. Russell.
May 4, 2012
Stephen Robinson
I didn't realise he had movies on YouTube. Maybe he should publicise them a bit more on his website. Perhaps the movies could talk about what kind of work each knife is best suited for, and show it in action? What do you think?
May 4, 2012
Alexander Noot
Totally agree. One of the maine problems with A.G. Russell's website is the size and quality of the pictures. Personally I've never seen worse pictures on a website. But the videos they make could solve everything.
May 5, 2012
In Memoriam
A. G. Russell
Alexander,
thanks for the order. Please list for me the 5 top web sites that I can go to to see how my photographs should look.
thanks for the help
A. G.
May 5, 2012
Alexander Noot
mr. Russell, I'll have a look around for websites (vendors) that I do like the photo's of. The main issue that I have with the pictures on your site is that they're a bit grainy, somewhat vague. Half the time I have a hard time believing that it's a picture and it looks more like a painting type thing.
I'll have a look around though.
Regards
Alexander
May 5, 2012
Stephen Robinson
I have to agree that the pictures are low resolution and sometimes it's hard to get a feel for how big a knife is (measurements only help a bit). Examples - try Vintage knives, www.vintageknives.com, especially 'view more pictures'; www.dozierknives.com, especially 'featured inventory', and www.arizonacustomknives.com. AG Russell pictures are clearly done professionally, they just need to be larger and in high resolution. The 'biggest' view tends to only be a bit bigger. Setting the knife next to familiar objects would help show the scale of the knife, too.
May 5, 2012
Alexander Noot
Those are pretty good indeed Stephen. I agree trhat it's probably the resolution of the photo's. To me they also seem a little too "photoshopped". They might not be. But something about them doesn't look quite right.
Another site that has it down pretty well is Les Robertson's site: http://www.robertsoncustomcutlery.com/
Monkey Edge is a pretty good one as well: http://www.monkeyedge.com
Howe's knifeshop is pretty good: http://www.howesknifeshop.com
I'll browse around some more. Offcourse none of these shops have the advantage of beind able to carry the Russell designed knives OR the fantastic garantee that A.G. offers. But the pictures they do are done very well.
May 6, 2012
In Memoriam
Robert Burris
Here's an A.G. Russel I have been having for a while. I have seen the value of this knife go up on Ebay by $50-60 since I bought it.
May 8, 2012
Steve Williams
Good looking knife Robert!
May 8, 2012
Alexander Noot
Nice loveless style blade that Robert! Is it that small or is that simply a very large coin?
May 9, 2012
Les Swalm
May 9, 2012
In Memoriam
Robert Burris
The knife measures nine inches, I think. That's a one ounce silver English coin.
May 9, 2012
Alexander Noot
Not as small as I thought then. Very nice piece though.
And Les Swalm...that look REALLY nice as well. Can you tell me a little bit more about that one?
May 10, 2012
In Memoriam
Robert Burris
Yea, Les, thats a fine AG Russell knife. I think it's called a "Chute" knife. I'll let Les give the info.
May 10, 2012
Les Swalm
Yes, it is the chute knife from AGR with Ivory handle really sweet.
May 10, 2012
In Memoriam
Robert Burris
"How Sweet It Is", Les that is one sweet little knife, you are lucky to have one. You will never waste your money buying an AG. Russell, it will hold it's value.
May 11, 2012
Alexander Noot
Well, got my package. The 2011 Texas Ranger is a monster of a slipjoint.
Here you see it next to a standard size lagioule for reference....and that lagioule is NOT a small knife. I love it though. The fit of one of the scales is a little less than what I was used to from the 2010 texas ranger. But still quite good.
Also love those little titanium handled knives. Excellent backups or for when you want to slip something unobtrusive in the pocket. Although the Ultimate pen knife is smaller than I expected.
Used the cooking tweezers in a BBQ yesterday. Excellent cooking tool and wonderfull companion to my folding Hocho. Shame that I had to pay such a large sum on import duties again....(€32 or close to $40) as well as shipping. The knives were placed in a MASSIVE box. But hey, it got here so I'm happy.
May 25, 2012
In Memoriam
Robert Burris
Alex, great set of knives, too bad about that import duty. I just recieved a Hen and Rooster knife from the time period that Mr. AG. owned it. I'd love to post a picture, maybe later.
Jun 6, 2012
Alexander Noot
Yeah. I'd still like to order from mr. Russell. For instance...the new 2012 Texas Ranger will be on the website any moment soon.
But this time I'll have my brother's girlfriend take it to the netherlands for me. It'll save on shipping and on import duties....giving me the knife at the price that it was meant to sell for.
Jun 7, 2012
In Memoriam
Robert Burris
Thanks Steve, I need to check on that. Oh, thanks alot about the heads up on free shipping from SMKW this past weekend. I took advantage of it.
Jun 11, 2012
Jan Carter
Over a period of three days I had 4 or 5 opportunities to speak with a representative at A.G.Russell names Phil. We spoke about the first iKC knife, about NRA and AKTI and about many other things. I did have an opportunity to tell him that Mr. Russell is on my personal list of Most Admired Knife Company owners. He seems to have the ability to stay in touch with his customers. Phil said to me that he has never changed how he views the customers, from the very first one to the last person to buy a knife from them. KUDO's Mr. Russell and thanks for caring!
Jun 11, 2012
In Memoriam
Robert Burris
Mr. A.G., helped get me out of backwoods knife collecting to the more modern day experience, with the education of great knife makers and great knife steels. It's hard to learn when you are isolated from the rest of the knife world. I learned I could trust what he said and what he sold.
Jun 11, 2012
Alexander Noot
Same here. Probably my most respected knifedesigner. I'd love to be able to meet him some day.
Jun 12, 2012
In Memoriam
Robert Burris
I just RE joined his knife club. I use to belong for years, I guess I forgot to pay my dues and was removed from their list. I fixed that, I'm back...lol
Jun 12, 2012
Steve Williams
I have always felt that one of the indicators of a truly class act businessperson is how they treat you when you make a small purchase from them. I saw this demonstrated very recently when I took advantage of AG's free shipping offer. I bought probably one of the least expensive knives in AG's catalog - the Klaas Toothpick, $13.00 and some change. I was treated just as courteously, shipping was just as fast...just as if I were buying a Randall or the like. Things like that speak volumes to me.
Jun 13, 2012
robert benton
Hello all, I just ordered a AG russell single blade sowbelly with cocobolo handles and a wharncliffe blade looks like a very nice knife. i have one of the large folding hunters with brown rucarta handles and love it. Any one else own a single blade sowbelly.
Jun 23, 2012
In Memoriam
Robert Burris
Robert, I don't have one but every knife I have gotten from AG. Russell has been worth the price I paid. Very good people to business with.
Jun 23, 2012
Steve Williams
I have the Wharncliffe Sowbelly with yellow Delrin handles. A very very nice solid knife that I am well pleased with. Another good one from AG...
Jun 23, 2012
Alexander Noot
Jun 24, 2012
In Memoriam
Robert Burris
Alex, have you ever been to America before? I think you have picked a great knife show to attend. Have fun, good buddy.
Jun 24, 2012
Alexander Noot
I've been when I was about 16, 16 years ago. And I was born in Provo UT. But other than that, nope. Not during my adult life anyway. I'm really looking forward to it though.
Jun 25, 2012
In Memoriam
Robert Burris
Alex, someone needs to post AG. Russell's knife show on the main page under knife events. Just like the other knife shows. Mr. AG. is probably way to busy getting things ready for his show to have time to post it.
Jun 26, 2012