Hey everyone,

I know there are not many people who are into "Tactical Knives" but feel free to ask questions or post some comments! Thanks

Keelen

Just a few cool pics of some sweet tactical knives. I actually don't own the SOCOM in S90V, Mini SOCOM LE in S60V, fully serrated Endura 4, and the BM 970 anymore. Sad... isn't it?

OK. Hopefully, my joining won't keep folks from joining or run y'all off, BUT I have some questions for your group.

I won't pepper you with all of them at once and will pop in and ask at time goes on.

My first "dumb" question is this (now you know I lean heavily to vintage knife patterns, OK?) what it is about these "tactical" knives that appeals to you guys, esp. considering there are fancy customs and old traditional patterns out there? I am intrigued with the younger collectors going tactical, which is why I want to learn more.

Yea, I sort of went into that mode a little while back. But now I look to more of the useful style of knives.

I guess the main appeal for these 'tactical' (tacti-cool would be more of a correct term, ahahha) knives is simple the materials and design. Many of the tactical knives would serve little purpose for what I do (they'd work, but I wouldn't like it).

I guess for that comment would be more for fixed blades. As for folders, there is the use of carbon fiber, G-10, titanium scales, etc., etc., but also the design of the knives are just "too" cool. But mainly it IS the cool patterning designs. I.E. the SOCOMs sleek nearly symmetrical blade to handle or the Nimravus' textured aluminum handles (that totally tear up your hands when using them without gloves, :D )

Honestly if I owned some of the mainstream tactical knives, I can almost guarantee they'd come back in a few pieces (maybe not Strider, though I probably could with a few of their models, or Crusader Forge, but the vast majority, yes)... this would just be under my "normal use." :D

Great pict Tom! That Griptilian sure got some use and shows it! I agree with what Tom said about tactical knives being more "tacti-cool" than anything else. I actually don't like the term tactical but most people know the kind of knife that you are talking about when you say it and that is the only reason that I use it.

To answer Scotts question, I think I am more drawn to tactical knives because of their design and all around look. For most of my life I have grown up with newer age, more aggressive knife designs and they are what have stuck to me. I really like the more modern materials that are used like G-10, carbon fiber, etc that give a knife a completely different feel than jigged bone or wood. Also, I am attracted to newer blade shapes and unique opening mechanisms like the Kershaw External Toggle and the CRKT fulcrum to name a few.

While I am more drawn to newer knife designs I have a large appreciation for all the older and more traditional ones as well. Without the Buck 110, Case trapper and many others knives would not be where they are today.

I really like your questions Scott and please don't think they are dumb. I have many questions for you as well!

Keelen

My heart goes out to all the men and women serving in the armed services. This is a link to an article showing some of the knives that our military personal choose to carry while deployed in Afganistan. Enjoy.

Keelen

http://www.blademag.com/article/afghanistanknives

You'll be surprised to know that many of those serving know don't really use their knives but instead use multi-tools. First, "tactical" knives are made to kill people (sorry if this get's a little politically incorrect or offensive), and they already have something that's much more efficient: their gun(s) and other armaments. Second, they need a multi-tool to pretty much be able to do maintenance on their weapons, gear, etc. Plus wire cutters come in real handy when one of the Humvee tires blows-out and they need to cut the mesh wire frame of the wheel if it get's in the way of moving. In all reality with those in service, the knife is sort of a cool way of showing off, since everyone has the same standard issue equipment and really only the smaller items can be somewhat different. Though, no doubt, if one of them had a cool knife, it's to say they won't use it to pry open a door or cut their meals.

So, pretty much the tactical knives are pretty much siphoning to the general public and not really to those in service. Some of the companies won't even donate a few of their so-called "best" knives to those in service, not gonna name any names....

I sold most of my tactical knives and bought other stuff with them. :D

It would be nice to have a collection of really fancy customs (RJ Martins, Bright Tighe, Jens Anso, Striders, etc., etc.), but right now I don't see the merriment in paying thousands of dollars for a folder that won't ever serve me, let alone meet up to my expectations, as a knife. And... yea, I actually do try not to abuse the knives that I know will probably break (like my Grip, stopped using it after the incidents, and I will not use my Nimravus to the extent of, say, my RMD).

Tom,

Enjoyed reading your post. Thanks for sharing.

Scott,

That is a great idea. I will create a new discussion for reviews so everyone can find them in a central location.

If anyone has a "Tactical" specific review that you want to post you are more than welcome to post it here and/or under the reviews discussion. Hopefully this will be ok for everyone.

Keelen

Hey, Im a huge CRKT M4 fan and a huge BM523 (520 but tanto), any you suggest?

Eric,
Have you checked out the BM Barrage or BM Presidio. I have both of them and absolutley love them. Also, CRKT has just came out with a whole bunch of new knives this past month.

Keelen

For another answer to Scott's question, what draws me to tactical folders is the ease of deployment.

For work, I am a Tugboat Mechanic and sometimes a deck hand out on the water. One of the things about my job is handling lines. You never know if one of those lines can catch you or something like that.

If that happens, I can reach into my pocket, and with one hand, the knife is pulled, blade is deployed, and I can do my work.

The above was just an example. I havent had to do that, but again, its the ease of getting the knife out to use. There's no fondling around in the pocket (because its usually clipped to it) and searching for the knife. Then once its out, in most cases, it takes two hands to open it.

Nick,

Thank you for sharing.

No problem. Just giving my perspective.

By the way, they also just look so cool!!!

I second that!! :)

What knives are in the clubs picture? A Benchmade, A RAT, and?

Rat RC-6, Benchmade Mini Presidio Ultra, Kershaw R.A.M

I would like to articulate the comment made by Tom Cai- I served 4 years as a US MARINE and never once carried a blade... There was some moderate knife training after boot camp, but aside from a bayonet (which I never carried either) there was no military issue blade- and KBAR was optional in the field and the only blade that was allowed to be fixed to our web gear in the field.

To me tactical means "emergency in extreme cases," as in this is a serious life or death situation that there is no way I could fight my way out of... Something drastic that my moral compass would direct me to authorize the use of deadly force.

I carry Benchmade's and Spyderco's every day all day long- I LOVE them, and use the holy heck out of them, and indeed, when I'm on my way walking to work midnights through the nasty parts of downtown Chicago very very late at night I do feel safer than if I were otherwise armed. But the use of the word "tactical" gets thrown around allot on the internet- and sometimes that worries me...

If I go my entire life and never have to protect myself using a blade that would be a very very good thing... Likewise not having a knife when I need one would be a bad thing:)

Keep your knives sharp!

Ian

Ian thank you very much for your comment. I really enjoyed reading it and learning something new.

Thank you for your service to our country. I appreciate all that you have done.

to reply to Scoot's last post...

i like Tactical knives cuz there durable and when there durable you use them more cuz u don't have to worry about it breaking or chipping like knives with wood or bone (scratching wood or bone is easy thus de-valuing it).... 2nd quick deployment, you don't have to worry about what you deploy ether like a Swiss army knife (that would be bad pulling out a can opener wile in a tac. situation...) and 3rd is the cool-ness-ability or the knives, looking totally bad a**... 4th easy to obtain, its hard to find other older knives in a store....

Keelen and All....
Good stuff here. Great feedback. Helps me understand the appeal of this type knife.
To allow me to restate what I am hearing- its a cool and mod looking knife for everyday use. but can get you out of a real jam with a bad guy, if needed.
How's that?

Well, there is no doubt, the traditional knives, for the most part, don't offer the "get you out of a jam" part, plus most of them look like our Dad's EDC.

Don't be surprised if I come back with a "tactical" from the Blade Show this weekend....just don't know what to get. I guess I'll just get the one that speaks the loudest to me.
With RAT just 20 minutes from my hometown...might pick one of them up.
But I'll report back and let you know. Wish me luck!

just got my d2 paramilitary :)
now i'm waiting for my delica4 with the FFG and foliage g-10 scales to come in. impatient!!!

ok- y'all know by now that I'm really an old knife guy (you figure that one out). Since iKC has been up and I'm met all of you, I've been watching out of the corner of my eye some of the cool tacticals.
Now, I have made the decision I am going to buy one and plan on at the Blade Show this weekend!!
BUT, I have been looking around trying to get a feel. I've asked for suggestions as I go around iKC, esp. in the Chat.
This morning I found what I think I want. It's big and solid (probably on the heavy side), which I like from the knife I have collected (it is big and solid).
Here is it.....the only thing is I haven't heard y'all mention Strider. Should I be concerned?

The only reason I don't have a Strider is the cost. Go for it, you won't be sorry.

Thanks Antonios. That's encouraging. The market this knife as a custom tactical?

I'm not an expert on Striders, but I think all the models are marketed as custom tactical. One of these days if I ever get a spare $400, I might just pick up one of their SNGs. Let us know what you end up with.

Scott,

You really cant go wrong with a strider! If I had the money I would buy strider in a heart beat but I cant justify spending $400 or more when I can get several for the same price. Let us know how it goes and if you get your first tactical!!

Keelen

Thanks Keelen. I was hoping to hear from you on this before I go to the Show.

How would you guys rate cold steel knives. I'm thinking about getting one, but they seem over-hyped.

cold steel is a very good company, many knives of many types... id give them an 8 out of 10... whitch knife or knives are you lookin at????

Seamus,

I think they are very over-hyped. I think Cold Steel has some really cool looking knives but others are just plain ugly. I have only had a few but my friend uses them a lot and he always seems to have something wrong with them. Although it is all personal preference and opinion!

Keelen

Maybe a Voyager or an OSS. I plan on adding a RAT RC 6 to my collection as well, then maybe some benchmade knives far in the future after college.

No Scott nothing to be concerned about...STRIDER KNIVES are OUTSTANDING!!! Saw that review by custom tacticals...great looking beast of a knife.
If I could I'd buy one yesterday...lol!

i want to get a ti-lite, i know its not quite tactical but it looks cools...

Hey Guys. I just got back from the show.

Holy Cow!! It was unbelievable. I had to come tell you guys first. I just got back online. It was great!

I have decided I'm with you now all the way! Want to buy some old knives...kinda kidding, but kinda not either.

It was so cool. All the Big names were there and I made some excellent contacts for us here. Busse, Sypderco, Ka-Bar, RAT (I met Jeff Randall and we are going to meet in the next couple of weeks)....I could go on and on for a couple of pages....

Here's the deal. I got lots of good footage for many vids. I'll be working on one just for tacticals!

I owe you a story about my first tactical purchase.....Strider didn't have what I wanted. I'm to call them next week...he may can find what I wanted but not sure. They sold out a while ago.

BUT....got the coolest brand new knife from a Mantis. Spent some good time talking with the owner and might can get him to iKC. I'm going to do a special vid on the knife and don't want to spoil the surprise. Let's just say, I looked at thousands and thousands of knives (no exaggeration either) and ended up the absolute coolest one. Mantis just rolled the one I got off the production line. Blade Show was the first place it had been offered for sale. It will blow you away.

I'll update you more as I get back to down to earth. I got lots to tell you guys.
Scott

Scott I'm not sure but i think your happy...LOL perhaps really happy or totally awesome-sauce or even epically happy...LOL I'm not sure...LOL

I tried to contain myself....you should have seen me running up and down those aisles.

Hey I hear ya. Good thing we started iKC....just imagine over the upcoming years how this place is going to grow. It'll be better than the Blade Show for seeing knives, trends and news....all brought to us by us folks out making it happen :)

FUBU! hahaha yes! :)

(for us by us)

Thought you'd like that....it's the truth you know. Knife Buyers control the spice (gotta know Dune, the movie).

unfortunately, i don't know dune :(
i wasn't even born when that movie came out!
only movie i've seen before my birth have been bruce lee flicks!