Ron, it seems to hold an edge well. It was sharp when I got it so I left it as is and have not resharpened it yet. Its suposed to be a good laminated steel.
One aspect that I find appropriate is the downward tilt to the blade. One reason I favor the Seahorse Whittler is because of the downward tilt on the wharnie main blade...
Queen Cutlery made folding woodcarving knives for my business. I need to find a new source so if anyone or any company is interested in providing knives, please contact me ASAP.
I've a few Queen in their Honey Amber Bone Stag. Just pulled their # 38 (split spring whittler) out of my pocket .. same scales. . Have a happy "happy day".
Knowing how you're a fan of the Seahorse, as I am, how does this beauty feel in your hand when using the big Wharnie blade? Like you, I also like the way the Seahorse blade is angled. I also like the way the Seahorse handle is tapered.
I suppose it's kind of an apples-oranges comparison, but how does this straight-angle, canoe-handled, Oar Carver feel compared to the off-angle, curve-tapered, Case Seahorse handle?
Regardless of your answer, I know those pits in your neighborhood are quivering in terror! That's certainly a right-sharp looking Queen beauty ya got there, my friend!
I also contacted A.G. Russell's firm & made them aware of the situation. I've seen similar (single-blade models) go through A.G.s inventory over the years. i.e. he already has a manufacturer tooled up & ready to go. The ramp up time might be long w/o commitments similar to those of his current quote. i.e. 500 pcs min & 5K set up fees. . Frankly .. having worked in the steel fab industry .. those are not bad terms. For instance .. fabricating an "Oar Version II" would require a minimum of 4 sets of tooling .. 1 for each blade .. 1 for the frame .. 1 for the back-spring. So the setup fee is distributed among 4 different sets of tooling operations. Further .. no one's going schedule press time ..&.. only run 100 parts. I just don't see that happening. Running the parts could take a whopping 12 minutes ..BUT.. that press-line is down for 3 hrs. Setting up the new die. Changing out the material. Setting up the material feed system. Alignment of everything as an interactive system. That's an hr & 15 minutes .. easy. Same thing on the other side .. removal of die & material & prep for a new run of .. something/anything. And .. that leaves up to 30 min run time to punch out the required blanks. . Then there's grinding & tempering of the blades .. assembly .. etc ............... . SO0oo .. 500 parts min & 5K set-up fees is really not that bad. Hopefully .. he could get some decent terms i.e. 1/3 up-fnt .. 1/3 upon completion of some pre-agreed upon production steps (often half way ..but.. define "half-way") .. the final 1/3 upon completion, delivery, & QC acceptance.
This one probably won't get much use, Ron. I use one of the single lockers (because I have 2) and it's sweet. If I ever get the opportunity to find another version II, I'll jump on it and give it a whirl.
Still, the seahorse is my go to knife, for carving.
I'm sure it's not an unreasonable figure, Dale, but I'm just relaying information.
I'm not sure what the relationship was between Stadtlander and Queen. I do know that the Oar Carver's filled a void between Carver's that liked to carve with a pocket knife as opposed to a regular carving knife. Flexcut knives are an option, but I simply hate them.
It may be the "Knife Guy" in me, but they're downright ugly.
I feel the same way about certain models .. one manufacturer just excels. Others do a "good" job ..but.. one excels. I like lock-back whittlers ..but.. I've seen some ugly ones too.
I have been meaning to buy an Oar whittler for quite some time now, I have had the Flexcut for some years and have never liked it. As JJ say's they are ugly but to my mind, a far worse failing is that they are very uncomfortable in use. The other blades to the ones in use are always trying to make their way out of the frame and into my hand.
Having said I have been using it for a while now as I sometimes do a little whittling in my lunch break at work. I work on my own and inhabit an old van so no-one knows what I am up to.
No particular reason for whittling a couple of mushrooms with an oakleaf stuck to them as they emerge, just took my fancy. May get finished in another month or two of lunch breaks!
You are right JJ I collect a few burls that I find on trees, mostly Grey Alder around here. It isn't sensible because there tends to be so many faults inside them that Its no use planning on something just see what comes out ...if anything!
I only really persevere with this knife cos I paid good money for it, if I lost it then it wouldn't be replaced.
Those appear to be walnut scales topped-off with S&M's striking and unmistakeable Keystone shield...Beautiful, indeed! And a wharnie master, to boot! Yippy Skippy...Great score!
I've a whopping 2 S&M .. my favorite being a humpback lockback whittler of their Premier series. I've a very nice leather purse for it. Still can't bring myself to carry or use it. Just .. one of those knives. . Congrats, JJ.
When I was growing up my mother used to tell us about when she was a little girl.
Every christmas she would ask for a pearl handled pocket knife and she said it seemed like she got one almost every christmas. Then just a few weeks after christmas here knife would disappear and her grandmother would tell her someone stole it. The problem was my mother was a tom-boy and her father would get her that knife and her grandmother hated a little girl having a knife. Momma said that after her grandmother passed away they found a half dozen knives in her dresser.
My mother used to carve things all the time and while she was alive I gave her a new pocket knife for christmas every year. I can remember she used to carve wooden pistols for her grandboys to play with. And she could make a pretty good sling shot too.
That is a GREAT story. I love that you gave her a knife for Christmas every year. In my heart of hearts I hope you have one of the pearls and one of the knives you gifted to her. What an awesome display that would make with one of her guns or slings!
"HEADS UP ! Great Eastern Cutlery will be making #62 "Easy pocket carvers" soon. These knives should be released in February. "Cocobolo wood & natural bone"
Would be nice if one of the small blades was a flat ground version of their punch blade or something similar to get in the tight spots or even a small spey blade or rounded belly blade instead of two identical blades. They look pretty though...
The DLT Trading SFO #62 Easy Pocket Congress knives in snakewood (100 pieces) I just bought one and some HEAVY KPL pivot lube. The Pocket Cavers are in production now. The GEC employees are complaining about finger cuts and the final sharping has not be completed yet.
That's a terrific looking knife and would be very tempting as I am looking for a new whittling knife. The only trouble is that I have decided on a fixed blade this time.
Great Eastern Cutlery is producing a very short GEC#33 Conductor 1/2 whittler run. I hear rumors that GEC is a little short on materials and they are using NOS parts to fill in the void.
Jan Carter
The mora frost looks like it is comfy in hand. I just looked at these and am wondering it that grip looks as well thought out
http://woodbeecarver.com/helvie-knives-viper-and-viper-ii/helvie-kn...
Mar 21, 2016
Michael Squier
Ron, it seems to hold an edge well. It was sharp when I got it so I left it as is and have not resharpened it yet. Its suposed to be a good laminated steel.
Jan, those Helvies look very nice and purposful.
Mar 22, 2016
J.J. Smith III
Those Helvie knives sure look nice.
One aspect that I find appropriate is the downward tilt to the blade. One reason I favor the Seahorse Whittler is because of the downward tilt on the wharnie main blade...
Mar 22, 2016
J.J. Smith III
Coming up in February...
Jan 23, 2018
KnifeMaker
Robert Stadtlander
Queen Cutlery made folding woodcarving knives for my business. I need to find a new source so if anyone or any company is interested in providing knives, please contact me ASAP.
Feb 4, 2018
J.J. Smith III
According to Robert's website, he's scheduled to be at the Charlotte show, this weekend.
Type II Oar Carver?
Feb 16, 2018
Jan Carter
OH, I hope so JJ!
Feb 16, 2018
J.J. Smith III
But, I'll settle for the Amber stag to go with my single locker.
Feb 16, 2018
J.J. Smith III
Happy day, happy day.
I picked up what's possibly the Last stagbone Version II, Oar Carver. Had to take it off of the display itself.
Happy day
Feb 17, 2018
In Memoriam
D ale
!!! .. Congrats, JJ .. !!!
Feb 17, 2018
In Memoriam
D ale
That Honey Amber Bone Stag is something else.
..but..
I've a few Queen in their Honey Amber Bone Stag. Just pulled their # 38 (split spring whittler) out of my pocket .. same scales.
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Have a happy "happy day".
DD
Feb 17, 2018
J.J. Smith III
Feb 17, 2018
J.J. Smith III
I wasn't the only one that came in looking for one. Fellow came up from Charleston and after I got mine he chose the Walnut.
Feb 17, 2018
Jan Carter
oooowhee! Now that is a pretty carver! Congrats!
Feb 17, 2018
J.J. Smith III
I was indeed lucky, Jan.
If I would have been 2 minutes later, it would have been gone.
Feb 17, 2018
Jan Carter
JJ did you get a chance to speak with Robert? Is he having any luck finding a builder?
Feb 17, 2018
J.J. Smith III
I did get a chance, Jan.
I passed Dales's suggestion to check with AG Russell, though he's not having any luck elsewhere.
He did say someone had said that they could do one, with a commitment to buy 500, outright, and with a $5,000.00 set up fee.
Feb 17, 2018
Ron Cooper
Comment by Ron Cooper just nowDelete Comment
J.J,
Knowing how you're a fan of the Seahorse, as I am, how does this beauty feel in your hand when using the big Wharnie blade? Like you, I also like the way the Seahorse blade is angled. I also like the way the Seahorse handle is tapered.
I suppose it's kind of an apples-oranges comparison, but how does this straight-angle, canoe-handled, Oar Carver feel compared to the off-angle, curve-tapered, Case Seahorse handle?
Regardless of your answer, I know those pits in your neighborhood are quivering in terror! That's certainly a right-sharp looking Queen beauty ya got there, my friend!
Feb 17, 2018
In Memoriam
D ale
Thanks JJ.
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I also contacted A.G. Russell's firm & made them aware of the situation. I've seen similar (single-blade models) go through A.G.s inventory over the years. i.e. he already has a manufacturer tooled up & ready to go. The ramp up time might be long w/o commitments similar to those of his current quote. i.e. 500 pcs min & 5K set up fees.
.
Frankly .. having worked in the steel fab industry .. those are not bad terms. For instance .. fabricating an "Oar Version II" would require a minimum of 4 sets of tooling .. 1 for each blade .. 1 for the frame .. 1 for the back-spring. So the setup fee is distributed among 4 different sets of tooling operations. Further .. no one's going schedule press time ..&.. only run 100 parts. I just don't see that happening. Running the parts could take a whopping 12 minutes ..BUT.. that press-line is down for 3 hrs. Setting up the new die. Changing out the material. Setting up the material feed system. Alignment of everything as an interactive system. That's an hr & 15 minutes .. easy. Same thing on the other side .. removal of die & material & prep for a new run of .. something/anything. And .. that leaves up to 30 min run time to punch out the required blanks.
.
Then there's grinding & tempering of the blades .. assembly .. etc ...............
.
SO0oo .. 500 parts min & 5K set-up fees is really not that bad. Hopefully .. he could get some decent terms i.e. 1/3 up-fnt .. 1/3 upon completion of some pre-agreed upon production steps (often half way ..but.. define "half-way") .. the final 1/3 upon completion, delivery, & QC acceptance.
Feb 17, 2018
J.J. Smith III
This one probably won't get much use, Ron. I use one of the single lockers (because I have 2) and it's sweet. If I ever get the opportunity to find another version II, I'll jump on it and give it a whirl.
Still, the seahorse is my go to knife, for carving.
Feb 17, 2018
J.J. Smith III
I'm sure it's not an unreasonable figure, Dale, but I'm just relaying information.
I'm not sure what the relationship was between Stadtlander and Queen. I do know that the Oar Carver's filled a void between Carver's that liked to carve with a pocket knife as opposed to a regular carving knife. Flexcut knives are an option, but I simply hate them.
It may be the "Knife Guy" in me, but they're downright ugly.
Feb 17, 2018
Jan Carter
JJ,
I agree on the Flexcut, just ugly. Hey I know where there is a 2 blade that has been used and could take a trip to SC and back !
Feb 17, 2018
In Memoriam
D ale
I feel the same way about certain models .. one manufacturer just excels. Others do a "good" job ..but.. one excels. I like lock-back whittlers ..but.. I've seen some ugly ones too.
Comment by J.J. Smith III 2 minutes ago
It may be the "Knife Guy" in me, but they're downright ugly.
Feb 17, 2018
John Bamford
I have been meaning to buy an Oar whittler for quite some time now, I have had the Flexcut for some years and have never liked it. As JJ say's they are ugly but to my mind, a far worse failing is that they are very uncomfortable in use. The other blades to the ones in use are always trying to make their way out of the frame and into my hand.
Having said I have been using it for a while now as I sometimes do a little whittling in my lunch break at work. I work on my own and inhabit an old van so no-one knows what I am up to.
No particular reason for whittling a couple of mushrooms with an oakleaf stuck to them as they emerge, just took my fancy. May get finished in another month or two of lunch breaks!
Feb 18, 2018
J.J. Smith III
Love the mushroom carving, John.
Sometimes it's the wood that determines the finished piece.
The only flexcut jack, that I own, is the whittling jack. Bought it to review.
Feb 18, 2018
John Bamford
You are right JJ I collect a few burls that I find on trees, mostly Grey Alder around here. It isn't sensible because there tends to be so many faults inside them that Its no use planning on something just see what comes out ...if anything!
I only really persevere with this knife cos I paid good money for it, if I lost it then it wouldn't be replaced.
Feb 18, 2018
J.J. Smith III
Picked up this beautiful Schatt & Morgan wharncliffe half whittler, at the Dalton show, this past weekend.
Mar 6, 2018
Ron Cooper
Boy, that is sweet, J.J.!
Those appear to be walnut scales topped-off with S&M's striking and unmistakeable Keystone shield...Beautiful, indeed! And a wharnie master, to boot! Yippy Skippy...Great score!
Congrats, my friend!
Mar 6, 2018
In Memoriam
D ale
Schatt & Morgan
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!!! .. Bet you did the happy dance .. !!!
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I've a whopping 2 S&M .. my favorite being a humpback lockback whittler of their Premier series. I've a very nice leather purse for it. Still can't bring myself to carry or use it. Just .. one of those knives.
.
Congrats, JJ.
Mar 7, 2018
Jan Carter
Dec 19, 2018
J.J. Smith III
I loved that, Jan.
Dec 19, 2018
Old Guy
Very nice, Jan - thanks for sharing!
Dec 20, 2018
Chris North
Amazing video! Thanks Jan!
Dec 20, 2018
Rome D. Rushing
When I was growing up my mother used to tell us about when she was a little girl.
Every christmas she would ask for a pearl handled pocket knife and she said it seemed like she got one almost every christmas. Then just a few weeks after christmas here knife would disappear and her grandmother would tell her someone stole it. The problem was my mother was a tom-boy and her father would get her that knife and her grandmother hated a little girl having a knife. Momma said that after her grandmother passed away they found a half dozen knives in her dresser.
My mother used to carve things all the time and while she was alive I gave her a new pocket knife for christmas every year. I can remember she used to carve wooden pistols for her grandboys to play with. And she could make a pretty good sling shot too.
Sep 14, 2019
J.J. Smith III
Thanks for sharing, Rome.
Sep 15, 2019
Jan Carter
Rome,
That is a GREAT story. I love that you gave her a knife for Christmas every year. In my heart of hearts I hope you have one of the pearls and one of the knives you gifted to her. What an awesome display that would make with one of her guns or slings!
Sep 15, 2019
In Memoriam
Kenneth W. Hill
"HEADS UP ! Great Eastern Cutlery will be making #62 "Easy pocket carvers" soon. These knives should be released in February. "Cocobolo wood & natural bone"

Jan 10, 2020
In Memoriam
Kenneth W. Hill
Jan 21, 2020
Jan Carter
Glad to see these in a micarta. it may help keep the cost down
Jan 21, 2020
J.J. Smith III
aesthetically, I'm not fond of 3 wharnies on one knife, but I'm liking the natural micarta. The muslin looks like a nice Sunday carry.
Jan 22, 2020
Tom Peterson
Would be nice if one of the small blades was a flat ground version of their punch blade or something similar to get in the tight spots or even a small spey blade or rounded belly blade instead of two identical blades. They look pretty though...
Jan 22, 2020
J.J. Smith III
Which is why I say that the Seahorse is about the ideal whittler, Tom.
Jan 23, 2020
In Memoriam
Kenneth W. Hill
The DLT Trading SFO #62 Easy Pocket Congress knives in snakewood (100 pieces) I just bought one and some HEAVY KPL pivot lube. The Pocket Cavers are in production now. The GEC employees are complaining about finger cuts and the final sharping has not be completed yet.



Feb 7, 2020
In Memoriam
Kenneth W. Hill
I just snagged some GEC#62 white bone "pocket carver" production photos.




Feb 7, 2020
In Memoriam
Kenneth W. Hill
The Great Eastern Cutlery #62 Pocket Carvers are almost completed.








Feb 21, 2020
In Memoriam
Kenneth W. Hill
Mar 4, 2020
In Memoriam
Kenneth W. Hill
Mar 4, 2020
J.J. Smith III
I'm gonna have to go natural micarta.
Mar 4, 2020
John Bamford
That's a terrific looking knife and would be very tempting as I am looking for a new whittling knife. The only trouble is that I have decided on a fixed blade this time.
Mar 5, 2020
In Memoriam
Kenneth W. Hill
Great Eastern Cutlery is producing a very short GEC#33 Conductor 1/2 whittler run. I hear rumors that GEC is a little short on materials and they are using NOS parts to fill in the void.
Jun 30, 2020