nice knives guys looks like me running out of room need to put them in bags and boxes now but i like seeing them out were you and every one can see them but the wife says it looks like clutter...what to do?
Here's the compromising part.Oh Yeah, my wife like pictures also.Kid in a candy store. he really wants the knives.Well, we have come to the end of our tour, folks.
Yeah I was wondering how she accomplished that LOL. My thought has always been just give him a room. Now I have a fishing room and a knife room but somehow it always ends up in the other rooms too. Reason, I never complain? My knives are always in the stuff laying around too :)
billy i showed my wife your pictures.and said see mine ain't that bad.she said she thinks we both need help...i said ya help building another room on the house...
NOTICED WE ARE UP TO 25 MENBERS I LOVE TELL FREIND ,WE LIKE BROKER AND OTHER BRANDS WELCOME HERE.THANKS TO EVERYONE WHO HAS JOIN LOOKING FOR A GOOD YEAR THANKS TOM
Stephen said: " help building another room on the house."
You know by Brother in law built another room on his house to store and show off his Lionel train collection! The house has an alarm system and then the room has a second alarm system as the collection is conservatively valued at 1/2 million dollars!
Craig, our mission is to go where not many would admit to going and find out all we can about some of the unknown or unspoken brands. This is a great forum to post some of the little known or spoken of knives or just boxes of knives.
I collect some small, somewhat obscure commercial knifemakers or with just a small number of models available…I only buy what I like of their line-ups and don’t care one way or the other if I do or don’t have the complete set.
It's great to say "I have the full collection of **Ek knives, -- all five models"!
Fox (Italy),-- A.G. Russell carries a lot of theirs and they make some of the Beretta knives and many others -- kinda like an Italian Camillus...They have thirty two blades I'm lusting for to add to the ten I already have.
**ESEE (Rat), -- Standard to strive for or the luxury version by
I have the complete collection of some of the above (**) but I have at least three of the other makers' knives in my possession and would like to finish the collection off (*), if I could but that’s at the back of the list of things to complete.
One I had come across awhile back that actually look like good knives from what I've read and saw online but have never seen one in person so therefore don't know first hand how they are.
It's nice to see a noted person put their name to something that isn't crap like the stuff that United makes with Gil Hibben, Jimmy Lile and of course the Rambo knives.
Stone River Trading -- I haven't gotten any of their ceramic knives but the maker is very highly regarded and another couple of names to the list of knives I don't own but would want to is Micro-Tech who make some lovely full auto knives, alas, that I can't own legally and Maserin who makes some great single, double and full knives.
There is a neat little company called Thinking Man Knives that has a two model product line (three if you count the Damascus version of one) of lovely handmade knives...I had a chance to use his Utviking as a caper last year and it has great ergonomics...Sweet little knife.
Mea Culpa, I forgot a number of makers so I’m just letting them at the bottom of the first posting, which I have to repost.
Mantis Knives – Have some radical stock removal that’s been getting both good and bad reviews…I’ve handled them at a number of shows and they appear well made and fitted but I don’t own one, YET…Their “MU” series is a hoot
Dark Operations – Is a company I’ve seen in advertisements and I have their catalogue but I’ve never handled; Hell, I’ve never even seen one in person or know of anyone who has even handled them, other then some middle of the road reviews in the trade mags…They’ve got some great features but I don’t know…I’ve never known of anyone to have used their optics either.
Eickhorn-Solingen (GER) – Great German company that I possess a few blades from and all are of excellent fit & finish, component quality and not overly priced…They have an extensive military presence and have some surprisingly good Damascus steel—I like their PRT series for EMT/LEO for EDC—see the PRT-lV and CSAR.
Surefire – the excellent maker of flashlights and suppressors also has a great line–up of knives…I just got one of their EW-06 models for Chanukah and I like the feel quite a bit.
Scorpion Knives (UK) – make lots of knives for the British SAS/SBS and UN SF and sell at very good prices to the public…The Geoff “Tank” Todd line is battle ready but I love the, Brent Beshara designed Besh Wedge blades—I have one of his own knives that I got from his table at a table here in Canada.
Sheffield Knives Co. (UK) – Is a quartet of English makers under one banner head that produces a wide assortment of different knives to very high standards…The make the Israeli as well as copies of the famous Fairburn/Sykes Commando Knives, British Military M.O.D. Survival and Aircrew knives and excellent Nautical knives.
**Fallkniven – The great Swedish knifemaker—supplies the blades for all Special Units (A1s) over and above the Mora knives that each conscript gets…F1 (Pilot’s) and S1 are things of beauty and for outdoor knives I love the Pro Hunters (PHK) and the Tre Kronor (TK)…They have recently issued some Woodsman/Puukko inspired models that I have ordered and awaiting to complete them—The Jarl (SK1), Juni (SK3) and the Krut (SK6) and will be ordering the Police Rescue (PRK) shortly to finish off the new models.
**Boye Boat Knives by David Boye – Bloody brilliant knives with cobalt coatings…Only has a fixed and a folder but each with two tip choices blunt/round or pointed…The model called Basic 3 for a fixed blade is a fabulous knife that I find just a little too small, handle wise, for my ham sized hands but my wife and daughters love it when rafting—the four we have are permanently attached to their PFDs…There is a pointed folder taped beneath the seats on all the canoes and dory and I’ve used the squared rigging knife for a bait knife for years…I went two (2) full guiding fishing seasons, using that blade daily and it still didn’t really need sharpening, just a touch up to a few of the serration at the front that got punished a lot more then the rest of the blade…I swear by these knives!
**Ocean Master –Another three model maker but of superb diving knives.
**Akona –has two dive models, the Talon AK9 in S/S and the Talon AK950 is in Titanium – really nice knife.
**Tabata USA –TUSA line has some standard looking but damn strong knives of good quality…I use the FK-940 red for kayak/canoe and FK-11 Imprex blunt for rafting.
Here is a Buffalo Horn Daniel Boone razor in a stag handle razor box. I don't know if the box was a misprint or not. I think this is made by Rite Edge and was made in Pakistan. It is a heavy knife and seems to be well made as as far as some of the knives I've seen from Pakistan. Some of the Pakistani built knives are really poorly made. This one is a nice tight build and all the pins are flush with the scales. This is above average for a $10.00 knife and it does really look good.
Here are a couple of old bayonets that don't belong to me. They are old. The stamp on one of them is 1907 and it looks like it was Remingtom. The other is stamped Wilkinson, but they look identical.
The sword bayonet continued service in WWII especially among ANZAC forces who retained the SMLE rather than adopting No. 4 Enfield Rifle. While intimidating and impressive to look at, the blade was heavy and for some people this made it more difficult to sight the rifle when the bayonet was fixed. The bayonet dated from before WWI (1907) and remained relatively unchanged being manufactured by numerous companies in Britain and throughout the Commonwealth. The Indian Army produced a shorten version of the bayonet for use in their Army.
More Bayonets. The top one is my Spanish Mauser Bayonet for the M1893 Mauser Rifle used by the Spanish Army during the Spanish American War and on through the Spanish Civil War in the 1930s. It probably was also pressed into service by Axis forces. Many of them came to America after the Spanish Civil War as well as during and post WWII.
The Bottom is my US M7 Bayonet used with the M16 rifle and its variants until recent years.
Top: M1893 Bayonet made by Artilleria Fa. Nacional de Toledo (National Armaments Factory in Toledo, Spain)
Overall length: 21 inches,
Blade length: 15.5 inches.
Smooth wood handle (repaired)
Leather Scabbard with with metal throat and tip.
Un matched serial numbers
Bottom: M7 Bayonet made by BOC , NSN: 1095-00-073-9238.
Overall length: 11 3/8 inches
Blade length: 6 7/8 inches
Checkered Composition grip (held on by screws)
Scabbard: M8a1 made of fiberglass w/steel throat riveted to webbing with belt loop and M1910 belt hooks.
The M7 is the great, great, great grand child of the M4 bayonet which was the ugly cousin of the M3 trench knife. It was replaced by the M9 Bayonet.
The M8a1 scabbard dated to WWII and fit the M3 knife and M4 bayonet however post 1953 markings for the M8a1 scabbard differ from WWII issued M8 a1 scabbards.
Here's the only bayonet that I have left. I used to have a large collection of them.
Original date of bayonet is 1942 - 15" shortened to 10"
The army made no attempt to differentiate between the M1 bayonet and the shortened M1905.
Some collectors feel that the shortened bayonet did not enter service until too late to see much active combat in WW2, but the M1905E1 entered Ordnance channels in September 1943 and by the end of 1943 over 225,000 had entered the supply system, so the shortened type is certainly appropriate for any 1944 or later rifle.
Thanks Craig, That's a great photo. One thing I learned while working on my pages for theBritish Long Range Desert Group was American Ordinance, once approved was often in the front lines within weeks. Things were literally being put on ships and planes before the paint dried. It may not have shown up in every theater of operation or within every unit. but it was making it to the front and in battle often with the same month manufacturing began. On the other hand, some items never saw action in certain areas of operation or with certain units.
Also, even in WWI, soldiers in all Armies risked court martial by shortening the unwieldy sword bayonets simply because they learned quickly all that extra steel might look cool and nasty but ruined your ability to sight your rifle and was actually a hindrance in a bayonet fight, especially in the trenches.
I guess I should have mentioned, for a little tie-in with knife companies, that it was made by Utica Cutlery, and was shortened by Union Fork and Hoe Company.
Another side note; my helmet is an authentic WWII M1 helmet reconditioned and in the markings of the 327th Glider Infantry Regiment - "Bastogne Bulldogs" - of the 101st Airborne Division. A unit that always seems to gets overshadowed in the movies and books by the Parachute Infantry Regiment guys.
I'm guessing you may already kniw this but what the heck, I'll say it any way:
Originally the Glider infantry didn't get the Hazardous Duty or so-called Jump pay, because some bureaucrat compared arriving in a glider about the same as being trucked in. On top of that Glider troops didn't need to go to jump school. I'm not sure exactly when the philosophy changed but it was after they realized that Glider troops were taking about same if not higher casualties than troops who were jumping from planes.
A good chunk of jump qualified parachute types were not happy when the Glider troops got the hazardous duty pay. Apparently they also felt the glider troops were coming via Taxi.
Yeah, there even were a couple of fights that broke out between the Glider and Para boys. BUT, all you have to do is read about what the 327th did in WWII to know why they got their WELL EARNED combat pay!
From the Airborne & Special Operations Museum, Fayetteville, North Carolina;
"Being a glider trooper was no picnic. Paratroopers got a parachute badge, extra pay, wore a distinctive uniform and had highly prized jump boots. Glider troops enjoyed none of these distinctions. Their duty was simple: ride an aircraft made of plywood, cloth and steel tubing into the teeth of the enemy air defenses, land and attack. One veteran paratrooper officer of the 82nd who was ordered to go into Normandy by glider on D-Day said upon landing, “These people don’t get paid enough.” The ride, he exclaimed, was far worse than a parachute jump. After Normandy, glider troops received hazardous duty pay, wore the same uniform as the paratroopers, had their own silver qualification badge and, best of all, got to wear jump boots."
sorry follks ain't been on much the wifes had a migrain since friday and ive been busy and ive been down with the crud thats to everyone on here posting pic.i'll chat more tommorrow...thanks tom
I learned about the gliders when staioned at Ft Bragg in the early seventies, but do not recall the disputation about hazard pay. There place in history as brave troops is secure. Is this insignia no longer worn by our Troopers? Man I am old I am starting to realize. Is the service cap even worn?
Billy, we do seem to be growing. Glad everyone has a place to discuss those important knives that dont have the biggest names in the industry. I have seen some very nice and intriguing knives and patterns in here. As well as history on how and what. Thank you all for sharing with us. I am an info junkie so bring it all on!!!
Billy Oneale
Jan 2, 2012
stephen tungate
nice knives guys looks like me running out of room need to put them in bags and boxes now but i like seeing them out were you and every one can see them but the wife says it looks like clutter...what to do?
Jan 2, 2012
Tobias Gibson
Stephen, two words can solve your problem "Man Cave"
Jan 3, 2012
stephen tungate
Jan 3, 2012
stephen tungate
Jan 3, 2012
stephen tungate
Jan 3, 2012
stephen tungate
Jan 3, 2012
stephen tungate
billy i think i made the whole house my man cave.....
Jan 3, 2012
stephen tungate
by the way billy do you use that phone much that's in your man cave?sure is a nice one....
Jan 3, 2012
tom white
good looking knives what drawers, cabnets,everywhere.doing good keeepem coming ...oh yea welcome new members glad to have ya'll here...thanks tom
Jan 3, 2012
Jan Carter
So what keeps ya'll from turning the whole house into a man cave?
Jan 3, 2012
Tobias Gibson
Jan asked: "So what keeps ya'll from turning the whole house into a man cave?"
My answer: "Wife" I get the basement. Mna's got to know his limitations.
Jan 3, 2012
Billy Oneale
Jan 3, 2012
Billy Oneale
Here is where My wife and I compromise. But only because she likes minatures and dolls.

This is the bedroom.
Jan 3, 2012
Billy Oneale
Jan 3, 2012
Billy Oneale
Jan 3, 2012
Jan Carter
Tobias,
Yeah I was wondering how she accomplished that LOL. My thought has always been just give him a room. Now I have a fishing room and a knife room but somehow it always ends up in the other rooms too. Reason, I never complain? My knives are always in the stuff laying around too :)
Jan 4, 2012
Tobias Gibson
Billy, I need to show my wife your pictures. I think I'll get a reprieve on the wall of knives I'm making in the basement!
Jan 4, 2012
stephen tungate
billy i showed my wife your pictures.and said see mine ain't that bad.she said she thinks we both need help...i said ya help building another room on the house...
Jan 4, 2012
tom white
dern my wife would throught my rear out the door plus my work shop would hold all the goood looking knives.thanks tom keepem coming
Jan 4, 2012
tom white
NOTICED WE ARE UP TO 25 MENBERS I LOVE TELL FREIND ,WE LIKE BROKER AND OTHER BRANDS WELCOME HERE.THANKS TO EVERYONE WHO HAS JOIN LOOKING FOR A GOOD YEAR THANKS TOM
Jan 4, 2012
Tobias Gibson
Stephen said: " help building another room on the house."
You know by Brother in law built another room on his house to store and show off his Lionel train collection! The house has an alarm system and then the room has a second alarm system as the collection is conservatively valued at 1/2 million dollars!
Jan 4, 2012
Jan Carter
Wow,
would love to see pics of that also
Jan 4, 2012
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Craig Henry
Hi guys!
Jan 5, 2012
Billy Oneale
Jan 5, 2012
Shlomo ben Maved
I collect some small, somewhat obscure commercial knifemakers or with just a small number of models available…I only buy what I like of their line-ups and don’t care one way or the other if I do or don’t have the complete set.
It's great to say "I have the full collection of **Ek knives, -- all five models"!
Some of the obscure makers are:
**Extrema Ratio (Italy),-- Bloody tanks
**Entrek, -- Just bloody lovely knives
*Al Mar -- his raptor and SERE series are classics that stood the test of time,
**Spartan, -- Major drool factor
*Mission, -- Major drool factor – Just a Titanium version thereof
Blackjack Knives Classics, -- Closest to the originals
Blackhawk -- Have some very fine blades for the price see Tatang
Katz (GER) -- SIG/Sauer – I’d buy them in an instant but they aren’t my first brand choice
**Dustar (Israel), -- damn strong stuff, IDF SF issue
Dartmoor (UK),--
Fox (Italy),-- A.G. Russell carries a lot of theirs and they make some of the Beretta knives and many others -- kinda like an Italian Camillus...They have thirty two blades I'm lusting for to add to the ten I already have.
**ESEE (Rat), -- Standard to strive for or the luxury version by
DPx Hex Gear of the above
BK&T Ethan Becker, -- Designer and builder now made by Ka-Bar
Emerson, -- Folders
Strider, -- Some past controversy but great knives
Kershaw (Kai) Zero Tolerance -- designed in part by the above.
Paul/Harsey Lone Wolf -- No longer operating together as the name was bought out by Benchmade--NOW highly collectible
Gatco - Timberline has a small but quite good line of knives and hatchets--The Zambezi folder is a strong favourite of mine.
*Chris Reeve -- Hollow handle past master
Blind Horse and of course the great and copied by many
*Knives of Alaska
I have the complete collection of some of the above (**) but I have at least three of the other makers' knives in my possession and would like to finish the collection off (*), if I could but that’s at the back of the list of things to complete.
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One I had come across awhile back that actually look like good knives from what I've read and saw online but have never seen one in person so therefore don't know first hand how they are.
Rogue Warrior brand--yeah that guy, the infamous SEAL Marchinko
It's nice to see a noted person put their name to something that isn't crap like the stuff that United makes with Gil Hibben, Jimmy Lile and of course the Rambo knives.
Habilis Bushtools -- check out their concept tools
Stone River Trading -- I haven't gotten any of their ceramic knives but the maker is very highly regarded and another couple of names to the list of knives I don't own but would want to is Micro-Tech who make some lovely full auto knives, alas, that I can't own legally and Maserin who makes some great single, double and full knives.
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There is a neat little company called Thinking Man Knives that has a two model product line (three if you count the Damascus version of one) of lovely handmade knives...I had a chance to use his Utviking as a caper last year and it has great ergonomics...Sweet little knife.
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Addendum
Mea Culpa, I forgot a number of makers so I’m just letting them at the bottom of the first posting, which I have to repost.
Mantis Knives – Have some radical stock removal that’s been getting both good and bad reviews…I’ve handled them at a number of shows and they appear well made and fitted but I don’t own one, YET…Their “MU” series is a hoot
Dark Operations – Is a company I’ve seen in advertisements and I have their catalogue but I’ve never handled; Hell, I’ve never even seen one in person or know of anyone who has even handled them, other then some middle of the road reviews in the trade mags…They’ve got some great features but I don’t know…I’ve never known of anyone to have used their optics either.
Eickhorn-Solingen (GER) – Great German company that I possess a few blades from and all are of excellent fit & finish, component quality and not overly priced…They have an extensive military presence and have some surprisingly good Damascus steel—I like their PRT series for EMT/LEO for EDC—see the PRT-lV and CSAR.
Surefire – the excellent maker of flashlights and suppressors also has a great line–up of knives…I just got one of their EW-06 models for Chanukah and I like the feel quite a bit.
Scorpion Knives (UK) – make lots of knives for the British SAS/SBS and UN SF and sell at very good prices to the public…The Geoff “Tank” Todd line is battle ready but I love the, Brent Beshara designed Besh Wedge blades—I have one of his own knives that I got from his table at a table here in Canada.
Sheffield Knives Co. (UK) – Is a quartet of English makers under one banner head that produces a wide assortment of different knives to very high standards…The make the Israeli as well as copies of the famous Fairburn/Sykes Commando Knives, British Military M.O.D. Survival and Aircrew knives and excellent Nautical knives.
**Fallkniven – The great Swedish knifemaker—supplies the blades for all Special Units (A1s) over and above the Mora knives that each conscript gets…F1 (Pilot’s) and S1 are things of beauty and for outdoor knives I love the Pro Hunters (PHK) and the Tre Kronor (TK)…They have recently issued some Woodsman/Puukko inspired models that I have ordered and awaiting to complete them—The Jarl (SK1), Juni (SK3) and the Krut (SK6) and will be ordering the Police Rescue (PRK) shortly to finish off the new models.
**Boye Boat Knives by David Boye – Bloody brilliant knives with cobalt coatings…Only has a fixed and a folder but each with two tip choices blunt/round or pointed…The model called Basic 3 for a fixed blade is a fabulous knife that I find just a little too small, handle wise, for my ham sized hands but my wife and daughters love it when rafting—the four we have are permanently attached to their PFDs…There is a pointed folder taped beneath the seats on all the canoes and dory and I’ve used the squared rigging knife for a bait knife for years…I went two (2) full guiding fishing seasons, using that blade daily and it still didn’t really need sharpening, just a touch up to a few of the serration at the front that got punished a lot more then the rest of the blade…I swear by these knives!
**Ocean Master –Another three model maker but of superb diving knives.
**Akona –has two dive models, the Talon AK9 in S/S and the Talon AK950 is in Titanium – really nice knife.
**Tabata USA –TUSA line has some standard looking but damn strong knives of good quality…I use the FK-940 red for kayak/canoe and FK-11 Imprex blunt for rafting.
Jan 6, 2012
stephen tungate
wow toby sounds like your brother in law is our kind of guy....
Jan 6, 2012
Tobias Gibson
Jan 6, 2012
Billy Oneale
Jan 6, 2012
Billy Oneale
Jan 6, 2012
Billy Oneale
Here are a couple of old bayonets that don't belong to me. They are old. The stamp on one of them is 1907 and it looks like it was Remingtom. The other is stamped Wilkinson, but they look identical.




Jan 8, 2012
Tobias Gibson
Billy those Bayonets are:
Pattern 1907, Mk1 "SMLE" Bayonet (Sword Bayonet)
The sword bayonet continued service in WWII especially among ANZAC forces who retained the SMLE rather than adopting No. 4 Enfield Rifle. While intimidating and impressive to look at, the blade was heavy and for some people this made it more difficult to sight the rifle when the bayonet was fixed. The bayonet dated from before WWI (1907) and remained relatively unchanged being manufactured by numerous companies in Britain and throughout the Commonwealth. The Indian Army produced a shorten version of the bayonet for use in their Army.
Overall length 21.75 inches (55.25 cm)
Blade Length 17 inches (43.2 cm)
From my page: LRDG- Weapons- Knives
Jan 9, 2012
Tobias Gibson
More Bayonets. The top one is my Spanish Mauser Bayonet for the M1893 Mauser Rifle used by the Spanish Army during the Spanish American War and on through the Spanish Civil War in the 1930s. It probably was also pressed into service by Axis forces. Many of them came to America after the Spanish Civil War as well as during and post WWII.
The Bottom is my US M7 Bayonet used with the M16 rifle and its variants until recent years.
Overall length: 21 inches,
Blade length: 15.5 inches.
Smooth wood handle (repaired)
Leather Scabbard with with metal throat and tip.
Un matched serial numbers
Bottom: M7 Bayonet made by BOC , NSN: 1095-00-073-9238.
Overall length: 11 3/8 inches
Blade length: 6 7/8 inches
Checkered Composition grip (held on by screws)
Scabbard: M8a1 made of fiberglass w/steel throat riveted to webbing with belt loop and M1910 belt hooks.
The M7 is the great, great, great grand child of the M4 bayonet which was the ugly cousin of the M3 trench knife. It was replaced by the M9 Bayonet.
The M8a1 scabbard dated to WWII and fit the M3 knife and M4 bayonet however post 1953 markings for the M8a1 scabbard differ from WWII issued M8 a1 scabbards.
Jan 9, 2012
Billy Oneale
Thanks for the info, Toby. great looking pics of your bayonets. Here is the only one I own. I believe it is Romanian.
Jan 9, 2012
Jan Carter
Billy,
That is realy cool
Jan 10, 2012
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Craig Henry
Here's the only bayonet that I have left. I used to have a large collection of them.
Original date of bayonet is 1942 - 15" shortened to 10"
The army made no attempt to differentiate between the M1 bayonet and the shortened M1905.
Some collectors feel that the shortened bayonet did not enter service until too late to see much active combat in WW2, but the M1905E1 entered Ordnance channels in September 1943 and by the end of 1943 over 225,000 had entered the supply system, so the shortened type is certainly appropriate for any 1944 or later rifle.
Jan 11, 2012
Jan Carter
Craig,
Not only a great Bayonet but some good info too. Thanks
Jan 11, 2012
Tobias Gibson
Thanks Craig, That's a great photo. One thing I learned while working on my pages for theBritish Long Range Desert Group was American Ordinance, once approved was often in the front lines within weeks. Things were literally being put on ships and planes before the paint dried. It may not have shown up in every theater of operation or within every unit. but it was making it to the front and in battle often with the same month manufacturing began. On the other hand, some items never saw action in certain areas of operation or with certain units.
Also, even in WWI, soldiers in all Armies risked court martial by shortening the unwieldy sword bayonets simply because they learned quickly all that extra steel might look cool and nasty but ruined your ability to sight your rifle and was actually a hindrance in a bayonet fight, especially in the trenches.
Jan 11, 2012
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Craig Henry
Thanks Toby.
I guess I should have mentioned, for a little tie-in with knife companies, that it was made by Utica Cutlery, and was shortened by Union Fork and Hoe Company.
Jan 11, 2012
Billy Oneale
Nice bayonet, Craig. Great picture.
Jan 11, 2012
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Craig Henry
Thanks Billy!
Another side note; my helmet is an authentic WWII M1 helmet reconditioned and in the markings of the 327th Glider Infantry Regiment - "Bastogne Bulldogs" - of the 101st Airborne Division. A unit that always seems to gets overshadowed in the movies and books by the Parachute Infantry Regiment guys.
Jan 11, 2012
Tobias Gibson
Billy,
I'm guessing you may already kniw this but what the heck, I'll say it any way:
Originally the Glider infantry didn't get the Hazardous Duty or so-called Jump pay, because some bureaucrat compared arriving in a glider about the same as being trucked in. On top of that Glider troops didn't need to go to jump school. I'm not sure exactly when the philosophy changed but it was after they realized that Glider troops were taking about same if not higher casualties than troops who were jumping from planes.
A good chunk of jump qualified parachute types were not happy when the Glider troops got the hazardous duty pay. Apparently they also felt the glider troops were coming via Taxi.
Jan 12, 2012
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Craig Henry
Yeah, there even were a couple of fights that broke out between the Glider and Para boys. BUT, all you have to do is read about what the 327th did in WWII to know why they got their WELL EARNED combat pay!
From the Airborne & Special Operations Museum, Fayetteville, North Carolina;
"Being a glider trooper was no picnic. Paratroopers got a parachute badge, extra pay, wore a distinctive uniform and had highly prized jump boots. Glider troops enjoyed none of these distinctions. Their duty was simple: ride an aircraft made of plywood, cloth and steel tubing into the teeth of the enemy air defenses, land and attack. One veteran paratrooper officer of the 82nd who was ordered to go into Normandy by glider on D-Day said upon landing, “These people don’t get paid enough.” The ride, he exclaimed, was far worse than a parachute jump. After Normandy, glider troops received hazardous duty pay, wore the same uniform as the paratroopers, had their own silver qualification badge and, best of all, got to wear jump boots."
Jan 12, 2012
Billy Oneale
Jan 12, 2012
Billy Oneale
Jan 12, 2012
tom white
glad to have some more new members ,thanks tom
Jan 13, 2012
tom white
sorry follks ain't been on much the wifes had a migrain since friday and ive been busy and ive been down with the crud thats to everyone on here posting pic.i'll chat more tommorrow...thanks tom
Jan 15, 2012
Billy Oneale
Moving on up, Jan , Tom. 32 members and growing here.
Jan 17, 2012
ken benson
I learned about the gliders when staioned at Ft Bragg in the early seventies, but do not recall the disputation about hazard pay. There place in history as brave troops is secure. Is this insignia no longer worn by our Troopers? Man I am old I am starting to realize. Is the service cap even worn?
Jan 18, 2012
Jan Carter
Billy, we do seem to be growing. Glad everyone has a place to discuss those important knives that dont have the biggest names in the industry. I have seen some very nice and intriguing knives and patterns in here. As well as history on how and what. Thank you all for sharing with us. I am an info junkie so bring it all on!!!
On that same note Ken...Parachute Infantry overseas cap patches, worn 1941-44. I found those dates at http://101airborneww2.com/insignia.html
great site BTW
Jan 19, 2012