I have two #23s in my possession . I have three more #23s in the mail to me now. I have an Allegheny Mountain Club Knife, that should be shipped next week. I have all four #23LLs on pre-order. Maybe I will receive the two SFO #23LL liner -locks. I believe those will be the last SFO knives produced for dealers.
I hate KnivesShipFree . I begged them to help me obtain the Northwoods #86, #92 and #93 knives. I just wanted one of each. KnivesShipsFree holds back some of their SFO knives and they will release those at higher prices with newer models. They could of been cool and help me obtain one. How can a buyer obtain four Northwoods knives in 30 seconds and I get blocked out every time. Answer : " Pirate Buying Software" I have one arm "left hand" and an old head injury , I am too slow. KnivesShipFree is a bunch of heartless , selfish , skunks. KnivesShipsFree sold over a 1000 Northwoods GEC made last year. And they could not sell one me one #86 frame Northwoods , #92 frame Northwood and one #93 Northwoods. They take advantage of the GEC SFO production. Dealers should only sell a 100 SFO knives a year , because SFO knife production is killing the smaller GEC dealers. The big GEC dealers could care less about you , because the demand will replace you. The Smaller GEC dealers are so nice and iKC supporter dealers are wonderful. I will never buy a Northwoods knife. I won't except a free one neither. Northwoods will be making their own knives in the future . I will be supporting GEC and the GEC dealers that I like. All the GEC dealers took a big hit this year ,because of the woohan virus. GEC is fighting for their lives and we need to support them fully.
Hey Fred Kemp ,That Northfield #23 Pioneer Trapper Antique Autumn Natural bone knife is "SICK" ! I hope I get a thick dark one. That phat spear blade makes a great chore knife. Take that yellow polishing cloth "FRANKS" and wrap it around one blade. Watch TV, work that blade back and forth a 1000 times. Repeat if you have to at another time. The more you use the big #23 knife , the more you will enjoy it.
Any of the LLs will be fine for me, I was curious what the mesquite looked like. I know the blue camel is amazing! I've never seen as 23 in that before. I had a white bone one, but it was a bear trap. I'm leaning towards the autumn bone or brazilian cherry (I love that zig zag jig pattern).
And no, no bay for me. It should be a crime to flip knives like that. It's the only reason I haven't gotten another yet. Frank had the cherry 2 blade for 108 I believe.
Richard, sadly I don't know the complete history about this cool knife. I believe it was released pre-2008. I first saw it on a knife website several years ago and tried to find out some info, but couldn't find any. So, I began to periodically search for the knife on different knife sales sites. Finally about eight years ago, best I can remember, I came across one on ebay and immediately bought it.
If anybody else knows anything about this knife and owns one, how about some info and some pics?
New Microsoft Edge has goofed up my computer. "No More Kenny Pictures !" My #23 Antique Autumn Natural Bone & my #23 Franks knife came in early this week. My #23 red-tail jigged Bullet knife and "Sharpest Knife in the Drawer" XXL t-shirt comes in tomorrow.
Fred, I do have some archive info on that 23 I think but it will get to me a lot easier if you can give me the numbers on it. That's what I have it all filed under
Thanks Jan! The only numbers on the knife are '1 of 250' on the secondary blade, which is also stamped '2006'. This blade is also stamped, on the other side, with 'GREAT EASTERN CUTLERY' with 'TITUSVILLE' underneath.
The main blade has the above lettering on one side with 'CYCLOPS STEEL WORKS' on the other side.
I just received my Kifer Cutlery invoice for the SFO Blue Camel bone GEC#23LL knife. I think these knives should be released on 7/17/2020. It is good to support a iKC -- GEC dealer.
Kenneth,
Thank you for always going the extra mile and supporting iKC sponsors!
Although that knife reads 1 of 250 in reality in 2006 the smooth white laser GEC knife production total was 81. It was also the first laser handle done by GEC.. That much I am sure of, what comes to mind but I cannot find verification of it is that this was the first GEC 23 made with no shield.
In 2006 GEC branded knives were made with 440C stainless steel blades, given the trademark acorn shield and Cyclops Steel Works tang stamp.
That's some great info! It's weird to me that it's not listed in the book,"Great Eastern Cutlery- An American Tradition".
Also strange is that on the bolster, which I forgot to mention and is visible on the pic I submitted, is the number 176. Which means there must have been more then 81 produced?
Jeff, I didn't know that. Not sure what the process was for that, I would think the serialized knives would always be listed, on the website at least. Although it's kind off fun researching a GEC knife, it would be nice to see some referencing from the maker. In the case for this knife, #23 oak leaf, researching has been tough!
More Blue Camel Bone Kifer SFO GEC#23LL Knife photos are on the Great Eastern Cutlery web-sight. The Kifer shield really looks awesome on the un-buffed blue knives. I hope mine is a stone washed blue .
Thanks Jan for the info. I finally emailed GEC, which is what I should have done in the first place. They answered back! I sent them some photos they requested, so we may have some further info soon.
Thanks to these two GEC knife experts, Jan Carter and Joan Mae Howard from Great Eastern Cutlery, we now have some further info about the #23 oak leaf knife posted about a few days ago:
-- In 2006 GEC did 81 knives with a Smooth White Laser Handle. Back then the serial number would run straight through the pattern. In other words, mine is the 176th #23 to come through.
-- It was not an SFO knife.
--The oak pattern on the handle was done with a laser, and it was the first laser handled knife GEC produced.
Jan...Absolutely, those are tinted perfectly! I'd like to see more of the blue bone on other patterns, as long as the coloring doesn't become too dark.
I have one arm left hand with a soft thumb nail. I open my gator snap knives with my feet and a CASE XX blade pick. New knives have to be loosened up or the stay tight forever. I put an old t-shirt in my lap. I wrap an old polishing cloth around the blade. Work the blade back and forth. Lube the knife after you are finished. I own a large GEC Sheath. I am going for twelve GEC#23/23LL knives on this run. I sent my #23 Northfield Antique Autumn Natural two blade to Darren O. in California. Darren will remove the main blade and the beefy spey blade will remain.
I own two GEC blue camel bone knifes. A GEC#93 and a GEC#62 , both a stone-washed blue. I am a dark blue fan. I own CASE XX Blue giraffe bone knives too. I was so happy to contact Kifer Cutlery in minutes after the GEC #23LL posting. I spotted a factory production line photo of the Mesquite #23LL on another Knife forum.
I have a real problem. I just bought my second GEC#23LL Beaver gnawed jigged cherry wood knife. I also bought two bottles of honing oil , so my shipping was free. I should end up with thirteen GEC#23/23LL knives. I have blade sickness , awful !
I just receive an E-mail from Kifer Cutlery , my Blue Camel bone GEC#23LL has been shipped. I am sweating it out on the Mesquite-wood #23LL invoice. I got skunked on the GEC#29 Snakewood , last year. It aint yours until it's in your hand.
I just paid for my Mesquite Wood GEC#23LL invoice. I bought a CASE XX Pocket Worn Harvest Bone Tribal lock knife , Seal1 CLP paste , and a braided lanyard black leather. I had to prove , I was thankful.
The Antique Autumn wavy rogers jigged bone GEC#33 Conductor knives were released today. No news or photos on the GEC#33 Sambar Stag knives yet. A GEC#35 "Beer & Sausage" knife has been announced. This #35 knife is in production. I believe the scales will be Autumn Leaf jigged bone.
Mike Latham : Owner of CollectorKnives.net --- His ranch was hit by 102MPH winds for at least 15 minutes , about two days ago. His family is picking up the pieces. Pray for him and his family. Thank God , no lives were lost. Give him at least a week to get back to business.
That is some fast winds. We get 60-80 at least once a year here in Oklahoma. A Blessing no lives were lost. The concept of this coming knife looks to be a good one to collect.
Great Eastern Cutlery is having a Pennsylvania Wounded Warrior raffle. August 14,2020 235220 UN-X-LD Sambar Stag "Bullet Shield ( 1 of 2 ) I guess the factory museum gets one two. Check it out on the right side of the GEC Home page.
I talked to Mr. Frank today of Franks Classic knives. GEC did run out of bovine cattle bone during the production of the Northfield #23LL Trapper Antique Autumn bone knives. Those knives and the Northfield #23LL "Bullet" Redtail jigged knives will be assembled later this year ,after more cattle bone is back in stock. A Sambar Stag #33 should be the next release. Parts for a #35 run are being made right now. Maher & Grosh will have a knife coming out in August ,2020. I believe that will be a #35 in Gabon Ebony wood. Any other scales for Maher & Grosh will have to be assembled later. (not confirmed) That is all I know right now.
The Tidioute #33 Antique Autumn wavy jigged bone Conductor knives have been already shipped out to the GEC dealers. Look for postings and invoices soon. The Northfield #33 Sambar Stag knives are released today. (8/7/2020) Those will shipped out next week. 400 pieces of each (not confirmed)
In Memoriam
Kenneth W. Hill
I have two #23s in my possession . I have three more #23s in the mail to me now. I have an Allegheny Mountain Club Knife, that should be shipped next week. I have all four #23LLs on pre-order. Maybe I will receive the two SFO #23LL liner -locks. I believe those will be the last SFO knives produced for dealers.
Jul 3, 2020
In Memoriam
Kenneth W. Hill
I hate KnivesShipFree . I begged them to help me obtain the Northwoods #86, #92 and #93 knives. I just wanted one of each. KnivesShipsFree holds back some of their SFO knives and they will release those at higher prices with newer models. They could of been cool and help me obtain one. How can a buyer obtain four Northwoods knives in 30 seconds and I get blocked out every time. Answer : " Pirate Buying Software" I have one arm "left hand" and an old head injury , I am too slow. KnivesShipFree is a bunch of heartless , selfish , skunks. KnivesShipsFree sold over a 1000 Northwoods GEC made last year. And they could not sell one me one #86 frame Northwoods , #92 frame Northwood and one #93 Northwoods. They take advantage of the GEC SFO production. Dealers should only sell a 100 SFO knives a year , because SFO knife production is killing the smaller GEC dealers. The big GEC dealers could care less about you , because the demand will replace you. The Smaller GEC dealers are so nice and iKC supporter dealers are wonderful. I will never buy a Northwoods knife. I won't except a free one neither. Northwoods will be making their own knives in the future . I will be supporting GEC and the GEC dealers that I like. All the GEC dealers took a big hit this year ,because of the woohan virus. GEC is fighting for their lives and we need to support them fully.
Jul 3, 2020
In Memoriam
Kenneth W. Hill
Hey Fred Kemp ,That Northfield #23 Pioneer Trapper Antique Autumn Natural bone knife is "SICK" ! I hope I get a thick dark one. That phat spear blade makes a great chore knife. Take that yellow polishing cloth "FRANKS" and wrap it around one blade. Watch TV, work that blade back and forth a 1000 times. Repeat if you have to at another time. The more you use the big #23 knife , the more you will enjoy it.
Jul 3, 2020
Richard Schuchman
And no, no bay for me. It should be a crime to flip knives like that. It's the only reason I haven't gotten another yet. Frank had the cherry 2 blade for 108 I believe.
Jul 3, 2020
Richard Schuchman
Jul 3, 2020
Fred Kemp
Thanks Kenneth. I look forward to seeing some pics of the 23's you'll be getting soon!
Jul 4, 2020
Fred Kemp
Here's the Frank's #23 that came in the mail today.
Jul 9, 2020
Richard Schuchman
Jul 9, 2020
Fred Kemp
Richard, sadly I don't know the complete history about this cool knife. I believe it was released pre-2008. I first saw it on a knife website several years ago and tried to find out some info, but couldn't find any. So, I began to periodically search for the knife on different knife sales sites. Finally about eight years ago, best I can remember, I came across one on ebay and immediately bought it.
If anybody else knows anything about this knife and owns one, how about some info and some pics?
Jul 9, 2020
In Memoriam
Kenneth W. Hill
New Microsoft Edge has goofed up my computer. "No More Kenny Pictures !" My #23 Antique Autumn Natural Bone & my #23 Franks knife came in early this week. My #23 red-tail jigged Bullet knife and "Sharpest Knife in the Drawer" XXL t-shirt comes in tomorrow.
Jul 9, 2020
Richard Schuchman
Got mine today. The pull is bad, but hoping it'll ease up over time
Jul 9, 2020
Jan Carter
Fred, I do have some archive info on that 23 I think but it will get to me a lot easier if you can give me the numbers on it. That's what I have it all filed under
Jul 10, 2020
Jan Carter
Kenneth. What's up, I dont want you blocked from adding pics!
Jul 10, 2020
Richard Schuchman
I decided to get a sheath for my 23 and treat it like a fixed blade. It'll save my thumb nail that way.
Jul 10, 2020
Fred Kemp
Thanks Jan! The only numbers on the knife are '1 of 250' on the secondary blade, which is also stamped '2006'. This blade is also stamped, on the other side, with 'GREAT EASTERN CUTLERY' with 'TITUSVILLE' underneath.
The main blade has the above lettering on one side with 'CYCLOPS STEEL WORKS' on the other side.
Jul 10, 2020
Fred Kemp
Richard, that Liner Lock looks great! The sheath idea is a good one.
Jul 10, 2020
In Memoriam
Kenneth W. Hill
I just received my Kifer Cutlery invoice for the SFO Blue Camel bone GEC#23LL knife. I think these knives should be released on 7/17/2020. It is good to support a iKC -- GEC dealer.
Kenneth,
Thank you for always going the extra mile and supporting iKC sponsors!
Jul 11, 2020
Jan Carter
Fred,
Although that knife reads 1 of 250 in reality in 2006 the smooth white laser GEC knife production total was 81. It was also the first laser handle done by GEC.. That much I am sure of, what comes to mind but I cannot find verification of it is that this was the first GEC 23 made with no shield.
In 2006 GEC branded knives were made with 440C stainless steel blades, given the trademark acorn shield and Cyclops Steel Works tang stamp.
Jul 11, 2020
Fred Kemp
Jan,
That's some great info! It's weird to me that it's not listed in the book,"Great Eastern Cutlery- An American Tradition".
Also strange is that on the bolster, which I forgot to mention and is visible on the pic I submitted, is the number 176. Which means there must have been more then 81 produced?
Jul 12, 2020
jeff
Fred.... I have found that there were quite a few styles that are not mentioned in the book. I have a few short runs not mentioned.
Jul 13, 2020
Fred Kemp
Jeff, I didn't know that. Not sure what the process was for that, I would think the serialized knives would always be listed, on the website at least. Although it's kind off fun researching a GEC knife, it would be nice to see some referencing from the maker. In the case for this knife, #23 oak leaf, researching has been tough!
Jul 13, 2020
Fred Kemp
Just scored a #23 Woodland Micarta Liner lock at DLT Trading! They have 7 left.
Jul 13, 2020
Jan Carter
Under production totals on the GEC website, let me see if I can add it from my phone
Jul 14, 2020
Jan Carter
2006.pdf
Jul 14, 2020
Jan Carter
In the early years the 250 would usually mean they made 250 but not all with the same handle material
Jul 14, 2020
In Memoriam
Kenneth W. Hill
More Blue Camel Bone Kifer SFO GEC#23LL Knife photos are on the Great Eastern Cutlery web-sight. The Kifer shield really looks awesome on the un-buffed blue knives. I hope mine is a stone washed blue .
Jul 14, 2020
Fred Kemp
Thanks Jan for the info. I finally emailed GEC, which is what I should have done in the first place. They answered back! I sent them some photos they requested, so we may have some further info soon.
Jul 14, 2020
Jan Carter
Fred,
If they say something other than what is on the website I would be surprised but you never know. They are good with communicating
Jul 15, 2020
Jan Carter
Kenneth,
I cant wait to see that Blue with the Kifer shield!!!
Jul 15, 2020
Fred Kemp
Thanks to these two GEC knife experts, Jan Carter and Joan Mae Howard from Great Eastern Cutlery, we now have some further info about the #23 oak leaf knife posted about a few days ago:
-- In 2006 GEC did 81 knives with a Smooth White Laser Handle. Back then the serial number would run straight through the pattern. In other words, mine is the 176th #23 to come through.
-- It was not an SFO knife.
--The oak pattern on the handle was done with a laser, and it was the first laser handled knife GEC produced.
Jul 16, 2020
Jan Carter
Fred!
Thanks, it is good to know the little bit on the site could jog up a few correct facts from an old memory! It is a great knife by the way
Jul 16, 2020
Fred Kemp
Here's a pic of the Kifer Cutlery SFO. Wish I could have snagged one!
Jul 19, 2020
In Memoriam
Kenneth W. Hill
I received my 2020 AMKCA club #23 with black bear shield knife today. (#05 of #35 )
Jul 20, 2020
Jan Carter
Fred,
Those are just gorgeous. I see that being a high dollar from the flippers on the after market side
Jul 20, 2020
Jan Carter
Cant wait to see it Kenneth
Jul 20, 2020
Fred Kemp
Jan...Absolutely, those are tinted perfectly! I'd like to see more of the blue bone on other patterns, as long as the coloring doesn't become too dark.
Jul 20, 2020
In Memoriam
Kenneth W. Hill
I have one arm left hand with a soft thumb nail. I open my gator snap knives with my feet and a CASE XX blade pick. New knives have to be loosened up or the stay tight forever. I put an old t-shirt in my lap. I wrap an old polishing cloth around the blade. Work the blade back and forth. Lube the knife after you are finished. I own a large GEC Sheath. I am going for twelve GEC#23/23LL knives on this run. I sent my #23 Northfield Antique Autumn Natural two blade to Darren O. in California. Darren will remove the main blade and the beefy spey blade will remain.
Jul 21, 2020
In Memoriam
Kenneth W. Hill
I own two GEC blue camel bone knifes. A GEC#93 and a GEC#62 , both a stone-washed blue. I am a dark blue fan. I own CASE XX Blue giraffe bone knives too. I was so happy to contact Kifer Cutlery in minutes after the GEC #23LL posting. I spotted a factory production line photo of the Mesquite #23LL on another Knife forum.
Jul 21, 2020
In Memoriam
Kenneth W. Hill
I have a real problem. I just bought my second GEC#23LL Beaver gnawed jigged cherry wood knife. I also bought two bottles of honing oil , so my shipping was free. I should end up with thirteen GEC#23/23LL knives. I have blade sickness , awful !
Jul 21, 2020
Clint Thompson
Kenneth I know what you mean. It is an addition.
Jul 22, 2020
In Memoriam
Kenneth W. Hill
The CKs SFO GEC#23LL mesquite wood knife were released today. GEC had plenty of production photos. That mesquite-wood looks just like burl !
Jul 22, 2020
In Memoriam
Kenneth W. Hill
I just receive an E-mail from Kifer Cutlery , my Blue Camel bone GEC#23LL has been shipped. I am sweating it out on the Mesquite-wood #23LL invoice. I got skunked on the GEC#29 Snakewood , last year. It aint yours until it's in your hand.
Jul 23, 2020
In Memoriam
Kenneth W. Hill
I just paid for my Mesquite Wood GEC#23LL invoice. I bought a CASE XX Pocket Worn Harvest Bone Tribal lock knife , Seal1 CLP paste , and a braided lanyard black leather. I had to prove , I was thankful.
Jul 25, 2020
In Memoriam
Kenneth W. Hill
The Antique Autumn wavy rogers jigged bone GEC#33 Conductor knives were released today. No news or photos on the GEC#33 Sambar Stag knives yet. A GEC#35 "Beer & Sausage" knife has been announced. This #35 knife is in production. I believe the scales will be Autumn Leaf jigged bone.
Jul 31, 2020
In Memoriam
Kenneth W. Hill
Mike Latham : Owner of CollectorKnives.net --- His ranch was hit by 102MPH winds for at least 15 minutes , about two days ago. His family is picking up the pieces. Pray for him and his family. Thank God , no lives were lost. Give him at least a week to get back to business.
Aug 1, 2020
Clint Thompson
That is some fast winds. We get 60-80 at least once a year here in Oklahoma. A Blessing no lives were lost. The concept of this coming knife looks to be a good one to collect.
Aug 1, 2020
In Memoriam
Kenneth W. Hill
Great Eastern Cutlery is having a Pennsylvania Wounded Warrior raffle. August 14,2020 235220 UN-X-LD Sambar Stag "Bullet Shield ( 1 of 2 ) I guess the factory museum gets one two. Check it out on the right side of the GEC Home page.
Aug 3, 2020
In Memoriam
Kenneth W. Hill
I talked to Mr. Frank today of Franks Classic knives. GEC did run out of bovine cattle bone during the production of the Northfield #23LL Trapper Antique Autumn bone knives. Those knives and the Northfield #23LL "Bullet" Redtail jigged knives will be assembled later this year ,after more cattle bone is back in stock. A Sambar Stag #33 should be the next release. Parts for a #35 run are being made right now. Maher & Grosh will have a knife coming out in August ,2020. I believe that will be a #35 in Gabon Ebony wood. Any other scales for Maher & Grosh will have to be assembled later. (not confirmed) That is all I know right now.
Aug 4, 2020
In Memoriam
Kenneth W. Hill
The Tidioute #33 Antique Autumn wavy jigged bone Conductor knives have been already shipped out to the GEC dealers. Look for postings and invoices soon. The Northfield #33 Sambar Stag knives are released today. (8/7/2020) Those will shipped out next week. 400 pieces of each (not confirmed)
Aug 7, 2020
In Memoriam
Kenneth W. Hill
The Northfield GEC#33 Sambar Stag Conductor knives have pinched bolsters !
Aug 7, 2020