Nice old fixed blade Jack! Is that a #85?

Craig, I have no idea what # it is.  What you see in the picture is all I know.  I threw it in my tool bag so I will be using it now.  Haven't used it since I was a kid. Well, I'll be using it when someone (wife) forces me to get the tool bag out. lol  How she comes up with the crap she want's done I'll never know. Does anyone feel my terror?!  lol

It resembles the #85 pattern pretty close.  Is the blade roughly 3 inches long?  Overall around 6 3/8 inches long?  If so, it is the #85 bird/trout hunting knife.

Blade is 4" and overall is 7 3/4".  I think I'll start laying a ruler down with knives.  Probably a good way to give more info about a knife in a picture.  This was brought up about  pictures I took recently and sounds like a good default addition to pictures.

Jack, It does help.  Sometimes I will put an object that we all know the size of  next to knife, just for comparision

Does anyone know of a list of pattern numbers and what they are for Queen?  I can not seem to find one online

I have never seen a listing of pattern numbers for Queen. Neither have I seen a pattern number stamped on a knife. The only way to approximate date of manufacture is the blade stamping except for the years of 1972 &1976.

Jan, I emailed you a list that I keep on my computer.  It had the old pattern # list.  I'm not sure how relevant it is with Queen knives released in the last 5 years, as some numbers seem to be reassigned.

Thanks for the Queen Pattern Guide, Ashley.

Well excellent!  Thank you Ashley!  So now we know the current numbers.  Carl has sent me what he has for the older Queens and David Clark will share what he has.  I am going to take all the info we get and start a page here on the group with the info so we keep it without having to look all over

Thanks to all who contribute to this list of Queen pattern numbers.

Jan, I am looking forward to the complete listing when you post it.

Thank you very much.

http://www.iknifecollector.com/group/queen-cutlery-company-hosted-b...

This is what we have so far :)

Great resource listing.  Thank you very much.

Thanks a lot!

I should research my knife books before I comment in the future. My comment yesterday is grossly wrong about Queen pattern numbers. The "American Premium Guide to Knives & Razors" 6th edition by Jim Sargent has over 90 pages on Queen & Schatt & Morgan Knives, including history blade markings, pictures, pattern numbers and value. The copyright date on this book is 2004.

So I want to play.....want do you want to see Queen/Schatt & Morgan make next???  Tell me your dreams! 

I like the oddball stuff.  How about a trapper pattern, in smoked pearl handles, with a razor blade for the secondary blade.  And a nice script font etching on the hollow grind blade that says "Schatt & Morgan".   oooooooo   I want one!

How about a limited run of the good old fashioned Texas Toothpick aka the fishing knife with the two blades 1 clip and one with scale and hook remover tip.  Another good one would be a less expensive true scout knife that we dealers could push as the holidays are coming and the only semi scout knives out there for American Scouts come from "Offshore"

This is an easy one for me.

My wish is for a top of the line Schatt & Morgan, "File & Wire Tested",  2 blade #06 Teardrop Jack, with Spear and Pen blades in ATS-34 steel and Rogers jigged bone covers.  Similar to the S. & M. #042206, File & Wire Series II, number II, released back in 1999.  Those were great knives, and I carry one everyday.

How about a new knife for the S&M Premier series? I'm disgusted that this project seems to have been abandoned.

Bil,

This was recently added to the Quuen page.  Does it mean something is in the works?

http://www.queencutlery.com/SXM_PREMIER.html

Jan,  Thanks for posting the links. Really nice web pages!  It had been several months since I'd visited either Mr. Reisner's or Queen's updated sites.  Both  are humming!!!!   Best regards, Fletch

Today is the one year Anniversary that Ken Daniels bought out Queen!  We all could not be more thankful for everything that he has done for us!  So many amazing positive changes has happened, new machines, new employees, a new president and new chances for everyone involved! A special thanks goes out to the Daniels Family! 

Happy Anniversary, Ken and family!

I hadn't seen that message on the Queen page Jan. Thanks for posting the link! I know that Clarence submitted a design many months ago and when I heard from him last he hadn't even heard back from Queen on the proposal. I guess there's a glimmer of hope that this great series will rise from the ashes yet!

Was outside for a couple of hours this afternoon watching my 3 year old grandson run around playing.  I sat there whittling on a stick when it occurred to me he was doing his job acting like a 3 year old while I did my job acting like an old man. lol  I was using my recently aquired Queen small lockblade (8445CZ) knife. What made me want this knife was the reviews I had read about the PH-D2 steel and that this knife had a lock.  It started sharp enough to shave and when we came inside I sliced a piece of phone book paper.  The edge had lost just a bit of it's sharpness.  I brought it  back to shaving sharp in about 2 minutes with a Spyderco ultra-fine (approx. 3 micron) ceramic stone.  When an edge is  restored this quickly with a 3 micron stone it means the edge actually was still plenty sharp enough to keep working and didn't NEED a touch up yet.  In my experience this says good things about the edge retention of this steel.  I am glad I bought this knife and have carried it since I got it 2 or 3 months ago.  It's a great little (3" closed) user knife.   So happy anniversary and good job and thanks  to  Daniels/Queen at the 1 year mark.

I tried to put a picture here but couldn't get photobucket to work for me.  User error I'm sure.

Jack

Seen on the Bay : "Original early 1900's Schatt & Morgan single blade folder pocket knife": 

Looks very much like the strange "Chris WOLF" knives :

 See DavidKrauss

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"Chris Wolf and Jess Crouch... were foreman at Schatt & Morgan. The knives were made there. They were not the workers who were fired and subsequently started Queen City. That and the fact that the knives are very heavy duty is about all I know on the subject."

Best wishes to Nichole!

Thanks Ashley.  Best of luck Nichole!

Congratulations to Nicole! I'm sure that she will be a welcomed addition to the Queen family.

And, thanks for the heads-up, Ashley!

Ashley,

Thanks for giving us the info on Nicole joining Queen.  I am happy to see her become a part of the famlies history at Queen

I am also impressed that Queen is apparently expanding the workforce.  Good work!

You're welcome everyone! In addition to Nichole, we have hired 5 more people as well! So things are going great! 

Ashley,

That's really great news to hear about the new-hires at Queen. Thanks for keeping us abreast of the happenings. Have a great day!

Cheers!

Ashley, with regard to the emphasis on quality, please assure me that there are no plans to move to St. Marys, PA next to Straub's Brewery where there is free beer to be had.

We want to wish Wayne Gray a very Happy Retirement! After 21 years here at Queen, he is retiring today! Wayne has been a very devoted employee and has always went above and beyond what was asked of him. 
Queen is not the only retirement Wayne has celebrated in his life. Wayne joined the United States Air Force in October of 1970 and retired in November of 1991. 
So, from everyone at Queen, Thank You for serving our Country and our Company!! 
HAPPY RETIREMENT, WAYNE!!!!

Two great careers, Wayne!

Hey Ashley,

I hear there are going to be some great things happening at rep weekend.  Anything you can share with us?

I understand that during rep weekend (Oct 11-13) there will be some Queen made knives that have been done up by Michael Prater.  Best Part??? Tickets for the chance to win are FREE to anyone that attends rep weekend and visits either Queen or Michael Prater!

How about it ya'll, meet us at SMKW?

Yes Jan that is true here is the ad!!

Well you just cant beat that!  Either a Schatt & Morgan OR a Colonial Coon customized by Prater!!!  Just for stopping by to see some great folks!

The Queen City Series, reading about this I like that it is a blast from the past for this longtime knife maker.  From the steel to the tang, a bit of history for Queen City Knives

I like and buy Queen and Schatt & Morgan kinves.  I think I understand the reason to use carbon steel blades in these "commemorative" or replica knives from the past, but I would be more inclined to buy them if the blades were D-2 or ATS 34, etc. Perhaps there is a reverence for carbon steel that I didn't inherit.  I think it was John Juranitch who found a similar prejudice in the meat industry, but was able to prove that it was "mysticism" not fact that carbon steel was better than stainless.  GEC similarly produces lots of carbon steel bladed knives, and while I buy them for their fit and finish, I don't get it.  I am willing to accept that heat treatment is probably the most important factor in blade technology, and that superior heat treatment on carbon steel will produce a blade that will outperform a run-of-the-mill stainless blade, but "all things being equal" in production knives, I would prefer a "modern" stainless or near stainless (D-2) to an "old" carbon steel blade.  Maybe some of you who know way more than I do can explain the reverence for carbon steel blades.  Obviously, in this case, Queen wants to produce a knife exactly like the first knives stamped with "Queen City", but that doesn't explain GEC, at least to me.  On the other hand, it also doesn't explain why I had to have an M-2 fixed-blade, but I think it was "mysticism" again.

Re: Howard P. Reynolds comment below - I couldn't agree more! I LOVE both the design and execution (fit & finish) of all the Queen lines, but I would REALLY prefer more ATS-34 blade options. I know they offer it in their higher end Schatt & Morgan knives, and they use the  PH D2 in many of their other offerings (which is a great option), but as you said, "all other things being equal" I would prefer a LOT more ATS-34 choices.

Got a big surprise Saturday night. My brother-in-law gave me this Sargent - Queen Trail of Tears Trapper. 

Craig, that is ultra cool! Love those deep etched blades and the Indian head penny for a shield. Does your bro-in-law have my address? *nudge nudge ~ wink wink*