Very interesting article to me because I have a Queen fish knife with genuine Winterbottom bone from the Egg Harbor factory.

http://iknifecollector.com/photo/queen-cutlery-company-fish-knife-1

Good Article, thanks Jan for posting it.  And thanks Dave for writing it.

Jan - Great article on the history of Winterbottom Bone handles (still my favorite bone jigging pattern). Thanks very much for the interesting info.

BG-42 is a former super steel manufactured by Latrobe, originally designed as a Ball Bearing steel using VIM/VAR technology. What made BG-42 unique to 154CM was the addition of Vanadium, increasing the wear resistance and edge retention

WONDER WHY I AM IMPARTING THAT LITTLE BIT OF STEEL INFO???

BG-42. A stainless steel with 1.15% Carbon, .50 Magnesium, .30 Silicon, 14.5 Chromium, 4.0 Molydium, and 1.5 Vanadium. It is considered a a forerunner to S30V. It is considered hard to work with but has excellent edge retention however it is somewhat brittle.. HRC 61-63. It is better than 440C but not as good as S30V

Tobias I actually like it more than S30V.  The ones I have with it are far from brittle, it seems easier to sharpen to me and needs touch up less often

A question for Rick Hooper please: I have never heard this baseball story before. Do you know of its origin? I am attaching a picture of the S&M baseball team that played against local townships and villages but non of these players were among the five that started Queen City Cutlery.

It was a story I had read many years ago. I checked Jim Sargent's and Bruce Voyles guides , but it may have been a Levine story in an old knife world article. I remember , it was the five to nine employees justification , for leaving S&M , while moonlighting the production of Queen City blades on S&M machinery. Some articles say the men were fired and some say they left voluntarily, because of the lunch time ballgame incident. They has planned to go on their own anyway! Is their anyone else , who read this story? 

Also , the baseball incident was in the 1918 or the early 1920"s, so probably had new players by then!

David, I checked on the baseball incident. Turns out,  it was 14 employees of the New York Knife company, who left after lunch time, baseball games, due to pressure from the NYK Company management. These employees went on to form the Walden Knife Co-operative Company. I stand corrected.

Rick still very cool information!

That bone handled one looks really nice !

Wow, those cotton samples are awesome, the cattle horn is A1!  Jan, I read that info in the 1980-90's,and sometime between now and then, "someone" moved the Walden Knife Co-operative file over to Schatt and Morgan file. LOL, old age strikes again!

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So how many folks here will be going to the Queen show in 1 month?  I'll be there!

Oh how I wish I was!

I dearly wish I could go too!

Picked up this carving knife recently (I smoke a pipe and sometimes try to carve one... maybe this will help! ;-) ).

By the tang stamp, it's fairly recent but I'm not sure how to date the newer stamps.

-ds

woohooo!  I get a little shakey everytime I think about it.  This is my favorite knife show of the year!

Dave,

Those carvers, if memory serves me right, are only made for one company.  I am not sure that they have ever had a different tang than that but we will see if we can get Queen to take a look at it for us

Great looking knives. Queen keeps impressing me with their new ones.

I had a great time at the Titusville Queen knife show this past weekend.  Lots of familiar faces, and a nice crowd turnout.  Ken even gave my daughter a free knife for attending the show, he's a true class act.  Thanks again to everyone that put on the show, and to the employees/management of Queen Cutlery.

I have been AWOL for a while working on the Queen  Catalog project, which was unveiled at the Queen Show last weekend.  With catalogs digitized and loaded on the Queen historical document website, you can look at original catalog pages going back to 1947 - first catalog known..  The database now has over 7,250 knives entered and gives you a lot of information by model # or Series.  It makes no attempt to enumerate SFO knives, but it give the best detail available on regularly offered knives.  For example history of both amber and pearl handled knives shows huge production over the years - Queen could easily be called the pearl knife company!   Please check out the hisotridcal documents page and comment back to us - always looking to make this amore useful resource.

Thanks,

Dan

I had a little free time today and some of us in the chat were talking about how companies keep up their web sites.  I am so impressed with the Queen Historical Guys!!  

Did you know you can go to the historical page and click on a report of whatever series you can think of...THEN you can click back and go see what was offered in the catalog!

I checked out the rawhide series

Congrats, Carl!

I've been waiting for this Schatt & Morgan 033043-1/2 Jumbo Carpenter's Whittler ever since they announced the limited run early this year.  She's a BEAST !! Awesome slab stag handles, beautiful heavy duty blades an sweet etches on 2 of the blades. Shout our to Greg at TSA Knives for procuring this "pick of the litter" for me (thanks to my advance order).

Jon,

It is indeed a heavy duty knife and they made sure the stag on this one matches the stoutness of the frame!  Congrats and I am glad it made it to a good home

Congrats, Jon! That's a real sweet lookin' whittler you got there! Enjoy!

I think you could whittle totem poles with that heavy duty whittler, Jon.  A beautiful knife.

I looked at one of those at the Wilmington, OH show.  Very nice looking knife!

Thanks to all who have taken the time to comment on my new S & M whittler - I'm really stoked about this knife, probably due somewhat to the fact that I had been anticipating its arrival for so many months ! (In addition to the superb quality of the knife). Best to all

Why Collect Queen?

by Bob Welch Author’s note:

October 1, 2015. This article was originally published in the quarterly newsletter of Queen Cutlery Collectors, LLC., (QCC) Volume 2, 2000. The original publication date was November, 2000. 

read about it here

I started my Queen Cutlery 'journey' with a Mountain Man but recently I have had a thing for Barlows

Very happy with these two beauties !

Opps tried to load two Pics at the same time 

Derek,

Both the S&M and Queen knives are beauties. But only the Schatt is a Barlow. The Queen would be a Swell End Jack pattern. 

Like I said, though...they are both sweet looking knives! Just different patterns, that's all.

Hard to pass up a "Barlow" looking knife.  Queen makes some great knives.  Such a classic pattern that has a main blade robust enough for average tasks, and then a nice little blade to shave off a bit of plug tobacco, clean your fingernails, sharpen a carpenter's pencil, or whittle a stick while sitting on your quarter horse waiting for the cattle to be graded through the clover-leaf corral.

Ron an dHoward, Queen's standard barlow, and swell end jack use the same frame.  The only difference is the set up of the scales and bolsters.  Compare the knives in the photos below.  One is the iKC Barlow the other a Queen Proto-type that was an SFO for SMKW.

In the case of these two knives, even the main blade is from the same blank.

Thanks, Tobias.

I was wondering if anybody here knew of a Queen harness jack that was made in D2.  Depending on the configuration a cattle knife with a punch would work as well.  I'm specifically looking for a spear main blade that I can pinch open with a punch secondary made in D2.

Thanks for any help anybody can offer.

yes, but look for Queen City with a punch for the D2.  Queen has made some in 1095 and S&M in 440.  But I believe only Queen City did the D2 versions

and a camp knife version was done also

I think the first one is an old #37 with imitation winter bottom

Thanks for the response.  I have eyed the 99s in the past, but am now thinking that I might just need to pick one up and remove the mark side spring and two tools leaving just the spear and punch.  Should work perfectly.

This is not a punch jack but an old Queen City utility scout – circa 1928. This is the only Queen City four blade I have seen. I do have the smaller three blade scout however. This knife is in poor shape but all blades snap well. Early Winterbotton bone handles.

The new catalog is here!!

I'm really excited to check out the Queen City easy open teardrop jack.  Looks like a winner to me.  I'm also interested in hearing about the fossilized bone and finding out how similar it is to GEC's primitive bone.

That teardrop jack does look like a winner and I like the choice of blade steels that are available .