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In MemoriamPermalink Reply by Scott King on February 2, 2011 at 13:54

I hear ya , but Trent, you can't tell me there aren't knives out there that fall into that category and personally, I don't have any baggage with that terminology. :)  It simply means "purchases of (investments in) a classification of assets that should be financially sound decisions (less risky, when compared to others)."   LOL!

Trent Rock said:

Please do not use the term "investment grade"!! LOL

It annoys me

I think it is a made up marketing term ;)

Scott King said:

 

If we are approaching our collection from a "best value" or "investment" perspective, then ....

 

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In MemoriamPermalink Reply by D ale on February 2, 2011 at 14:12

sorry 'bout chewing up the space w\ pics instead of links ... but think about this

That Marble's # 1 is over 100 yrs old .. hard to find now .. in another 10/20 yrs .. ask me Daughter .. :D

The John Engstrom has been "out of production" for durn near 100 yrs .. add another 10 or 20 .. :D

The Ulster .. that's the one w/ the U.S. bail stamping .. Hannah may get that one too .. in 10/20 yrs !!!

... and the Catt 3-W ... I've got $12.50 in it ... look on E-bay now .. in 10/20 yrs .. again, see Hannah !!!

 

Point being .. be informed .. and that's where iKC can help a lot of our younger collectors .. see what the trends are .. see what is valued .. see what holds value .. know what's out there .. be informed !!!!

Hog Hanner said:

Great pics Dale, I wonder 10-20 down the road what will the value be?

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In MemoriamPermalink Reply by Scott King on February 2, 2011 at 14:13

Everyone has a limited budget- limited to what they want (desire or based on need) to spend :)  It comes down to why someone is "collecting" them....to keep (if so the heck with resale) or to enjoy and then sell. 

The other economic truth is (Trent's gonna love this one) EVERYTHING WILL EVENTUALLY SELL....AT A PRICE, which then brings in the other truism- YOU MADE YOUR MONEY, OR NOT, WHEN YOU BOUGHT.... ;)

Hog Hanner said:

Thanks Scott, appreciate your reply and I will say many collectors(not super ones anyway) have a limited budget(like me)
we love knives, sometimes many different knives and want to but the best they can for the money. Certainly knife type, pattern, blade type, color, manufacturer and country of origin are all factors. You talked about a crystal ball, well I sure wish I had one. But my value anyway has to be a combination of what I like + what I think is quality plus some consideration(at least a little) towards what others might like.

When you look at some of the pictures Dale was nice enough to post. We value those today, sure wonder what the guy that originally bought that knife thought.

Scott King said:

Good question, Hog. Here's my 2 cents-

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Permalink Reply by Jay Todd on February 2, 2011 at 16:18

Buy what you like because sometime in the future there is a high likelihood that the market for collectable knives maybe history. The antique / collectible market is already starting to see a dwindling of interested consumers as the generations change and so does the demand/interest in "old things". Sure there will always be somebody buying but perhaps not as many and then we have a weaker upward push to keep prices high. Demand is everything - BUY LOW SELL HIGH - or leave it for the kids.

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In MemoriamPermalink Reply by D ale on February 2, 2011 at 17:28

I've always held "Buy what you like" to be sound advice !!! 

My passion .. STAMPINGS .. cutlery stampings .. unique cutlery stampings !!!

From early on I read everything I could .. discovered what stampings were rare & why .. learned a bit of history .. had a bunch of fun .. and ... Chased those stampings  with a passion !!! 

Soooo .. turns out .. the knife didn't have to be mint .. not if it said AERIAL (made in WI) .. not if it said MARBLE'S .. or .. New York Knife Co .. or .. Waterville Cutlery Co.

Which is why I have this ..

... just so I can say I do. It's commercial resale value is very small. Yet, I can still picture the moment I found it.

 

Now that ULSTER MOUNTAIN KNIFE .. most wouldn't look twice .. but the bail has the "U.S."  stamping on it .. making it unique to the pt ... Bernie put it's value around 350 back in the 3rd ed.

 

 !!!! ... Point being .. find your passion .. follow that .. and you'll be happy ... !!!!

 

 

Scott King said: 

I'll start by taking on the advice of "Buy what you like" that we tell collectors all the time.

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Permalink Reply by Jay Todd on February 2, 2011 at 21:08

Thats the way to collect.

Dale said:

I've always held "Buy what you like" to be sound advice !!! 

My passion .. STAMPINGS .. cutlery stampings .. unique cutlery stampings !!!

From early on I read everything I could .. discovered what stampings were rare & why .. learned a bit of history .. had a bunch of fun .. and ... Chased those stampings  with a passion !!! 

Soooo .. turns out .. the knife didn't have to be mint .. not if it said AERIAL (made in WI) .. not if it said MARBLE'S .. or .. New York Knife Co .. or .. Waterville Cutlery Co.

Which is why I have this ..

... just so I can say I do. It's commercial resale value is very small. Yet, I can still picture the moment I found it.

 

Now that ULSTER MOUNTAIN KNIFE .. most wouldn't look twice .. but the bail has the "U.S."  stamping on it .. making it unique to the pt ... Bernie put it's value around 350 back in the 3rd ed.

 

 !!!! ... Point being .. find your passion .. follow that .. and you'll be happy ... !!!!

 

 

Scott King said: 

I'll start by taking on the advice of "Buy what you like" that we tell collectors all the time.

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In MemoriamPermalink Reply by D ale on February 3, 2011 at 21:05

That's true,  Don .. but .. still works.

Don said:

I see your sharpening stone drastically needs to be refaced. cont sharpen with that nub...

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In MemoriamPermalink Reply by D ale on February 4, 2011 at 5:58

I picked that rock up @ a flea outside Denver .. it'd been rough cut out of  "local stone" .. that was 28/9 yrs ago .. it's earned that little belly.

Don said:

I see your sharpening stone drastically needs to be refaced. cont sharpen with that nub...

... and I'll end up with yet a deeper belly in that stone .... and ....

 

... a sharp knife !!!

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Permalink Reply by Steve Hanner on February 4, 2011 at 9:20

I like your thought there Jay! I think I've been following the wrong advice ....I seem to have been buying high and selling low...I really gotta change that LOL

Jay Todd said:

Buy what you like because sometime in the future there is a high likelihood that the market for collectable knives maybe history. The antique / collectible market is already starting to see a dwindling of interested consumers as the generations change and so does the demand/interest in "old things". Sure there will always be somebody buying but perhaps not as many and then we have a weaker upward push to keep prices high. Demand is everything - BUY LOW SELL HIGH - or leave it for the kids.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Hanner on February 4, 2011 at 9:24

I've seen your collection Max and it is a very good one and that Buy What You Like is a common thread among collectors I believe.

Craig T. (max) McGruder said:

I buy what I like cause I don't plan on selling any,I do give some away and the rest will be left to a nephew when I pass so I guess to him it's all profit but he'll probably just put them up ,

He's a collector but not of knives but he knows collecting so I'm sure it'll just get passed along anyway!

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Permalink Reply by Steve Hanner on February 4, 2011 at 9:27

Interesting perspective Ivars, I had not thought about that but certainly criteria for selection may vary by country and region!

Ivars Duntavs said:

My target of course is Case and other American traditional knives.
If answer to your question Hog, than I think that moust collectible knives is a outdoor / tactical knives. Because everybody serch these knives. Youtube is full from tactical reviews, how to keep, how to pull out quickly, what is the best knives for self-defence, for combat.
I would like to collect custom folding knives to, because these knives are ony in one specimen (i hope write correctly). Im sure that in each country collectible knives are absolutely diferent. In my country its a 98% tactical/hunting and outdoor knives 2% other type. Everybody can see it in my country knife shops. I gess aprox. the same situation is in the many other countries.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Hanner on February 4, 2011 at 9:30

Love that model talk Trent! We can learn from that. I am interested in the conclusion for sure.

 

I'm going to pose the question to EconGirl and she what she says

http://www.economistsdoitwithmodels.com/

I've been thinking about this one for a while

 

My gut feeling is that the 2011 signed limited numbered ones don't appreciate as much as the buyers believe

In other words, a MODERN, limited edition numbered system doesn't really mean much in terms of the rate of appreciation

I could be wrong though...been wrong before :)

 

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