Welcome Home...THANK YOU FOR BEING A PART OF OUR COMMUNITY

Question about the 1219C2 Combat Knife (Marine Crop Ka-bar) and possible US Army issue.

My dad served with the 3 Infantry Division (U.S Army) in Sicily and Italy during WWII.  He was a BAR gunner.  On many occasions he told me he was issued the combat knife, that most people know as the Ka-Bar or Marine Corp Fighting knife. 

He said the knife was only stamped "US" and that the sheath was plain but was otherwise the same as the Marine Corps knife.

He said  Army trench knife (M3) wasn’t being issued when he was made a BAR gunner.   He said it came around later  and the priority went to paratroopers who carried the Carbine. He even said everyone called the  M3 a paratrooper dagger or carbine knife.

I know early carbines had no bayonet stud and were issued with an M3 . I also know the knife  like the Carbine went to the Rangers and paratroopers first.  Heck, even the British SAS got the M3 trench knife before front line US infantry men did.

He even said that other soldiers were always trying  to buy the Ka-Bar  off of him because everyone had bayonets.  Only the BAR gunners were issued the Ka-bar.

All this leads me to believe he  knew what he was talking about but I have no official proof.

Sadly, most his personal belongings (including his knife and  a captured Italian Beretta) were stolen on the hospital ship taking him home shortly after Anzio.

My question is this, were Ka-Bar Fighting knives does anyone know if the MK11 fighting knife was ever issued to Army personnel in WWII who served in the European theater of operation?

I’ve tried looking for proof of his recollections in his old copy of the History of the 3ID in WWII but there aren’t many photos of knives in the book. 

Just about every thing he told me about serving in the Mediterranean has proven spot on so I believe him but it would be nice to prove it with another source.

Tags: 1219c2, 3rd, Army, Infantry, Ka-Bar, US, combat, diivision, forum, knife, More…trench

Views: 870

Reply to This

Replies to This Discussion

Toby,  checked out the wikipedia history of Ka-Bar.  It doesnt mention it but it's surely pollsible.

AR15.com has a thread that indicates a possible Army issued .

Read through the posts here,  and  here, for some additional background.

Yes they were issued. Soldiers who were issued pistols or weapons that did not use a bayonet were also issued a fighting knife. A lot of these were made by companies other than Kabar, but Kabar was the name that stuck.

Reply to Discussion

RSS

White River Knives

Latest Activity


Featured
dead_left_knife_guy replied to Doug Ritter's discussion Knife Rights: North Carolina House Passes Concealed Knife Carry Bill
5 hours ago

KnifeMaker
Doug Ritter posted a discussion
Thursday
Jan Carter commented on Jeremy B. Buchanan's photo
Wednesday

Featured
dead_left_knife_guy replied to Ugly Old Guy's discussion My Newest Buck in the group BUCK KNIVES GROUP
Wednesday

Featured
Jeremy B. Buchanan commented on Mike Bryant's photo
Wednesday
Kevin D replied to Ugly Old Guy's discussion My Newest Buck in the group BUCK KNIVES GROUP
Tuesday
Kevin D joined Sunil Ram's group
Tuesday
Mike Bryant posted photos
Monday
Profile IconRichard Jones and Brad Hatzold joined iKnife Collector
Monday

KnifeMaker
Doug Ritter posted discussions
Monday
J.J. Smith III left a comment for Brad Hatzold
May 4
Carl Bradshaw commented on Jan Carter's group Daniels Family Knife Brands
May 2

KnifeMaker
Andy Larrison posted photos
May 2

Featured
dead_left_knife_guy commented on Lino Rodoni's photo
May 1

Featured
dead_left_knife_guy commented on Lino Rodoni's photo
May 1

KnifeMaker
Doug Ritter posted a discussion
May 1

© 2025   Created by Jan Carter.   Powered by

Badges  |  Report an Issue  |  Terms of Service