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Permalink Reply by Larry A. Brown on October 29, 2009 at 14:23

For whatever my 2 cents is worth the corelon scales are out ! I think you will find they shrink and they give off a gas like property that will rust your other knives, especially if they are in a closed case with other knives. I know, you are talking celluloid like years ago you say. Well I am not convinced. I have had the same experience with these new ones and it's all natural bone, horn, shell, etc. for me! It is more expensive but, well worth the differance. Larry A. Brown

Permalink Reply by Richard L Campbell (Dick) on October 29, 2009 at 15:19

They don't strike me as intended to be a collectors item. If there were 500 mint antique Remington bullets come to the market in one lot the value would drop like a rock.

Permalink Reply by Frank Evans on October 29, 2009 at 15:53

I regret the $ I have in mine.... Spread the word because this - (in my opinion) was a gross quality control error Case management allowed to happen with Frost. Who's making the money? Frost or Case? Not one of the ones I got in 2008 were tang stamped 2008. This was a inventory dump by Case I think. The Corelon is glued not pinned. Larry you're right. I would leave my stag on the dashboard for a month and it would be there - a little lighter in hugh, but there. One of these Corelons would just be warped plastic and a good case frame left. I think they should stop now for QC and let the other china brands that are picking Corelon up running with it. But then again, market stats say the buyers & ie: collectors over 50 years old are now the minority. See Scott's 2009 survey. I'd rather see Case take the high road and if need be develope or expand into some fancy stag and bone patterns selling to the more youthful. But I think as these younger investors mature, they'll be seeing the value in the traditional Bone Stag patterns. But the there's another topic....

Permalink Reply by Frank Evans on October 29, 2009 at 15:59

Traditionally, the traditional of anything holds it's value. Let's let our $ vote for us... I will not buy another Corelon Case (Except the orange Ten. one for Clemson Tiger fans that are friends) again. I guess I could make that a blanket no buy if I get Case's G-10 orange instead.

Permalink Reply by Trent Rock on November 15, 2009 at 17:43

DuPont™ Corian® is an inert and nontoxic material. Under normal temperature conditions, it does not emit gases. When burned, it releases mainly Carbon Oxides and the smoke generated is optically light and does not contain toxic halogenated gases. Because of these properties, Corian® is used in public
areas and for sensitive applications such as airport check-in counters, walls and work surfaces in hospitals and hotels.

http://www.casf.com.au/

http://win14.american.edu/safety/au/vault/000/000664.pdf

Permalink Reply by Jim Prather on December 27, 2009 at 13:31

Corian and Corelon are two different animals. Corelon is a plastic. And it does not gass off like Celluloid, which is very flamable in addition to it's corrosive properties. I have made many knives out of Corian, and it's a wonderful, easy to work, SAFE material. Corelon is safe, as well, but I'm not in love with swirley stuff. It's just (IMHO) ugly! So I stopped using it after about three knives. I started using it for spacer material, and it looks fairly good 'edge on'. But as long as I've had any in my knife box, along with some mild steel, it's never gassed off.
As for the future worth of Case Corelon knives. I'd say the future looks dark, unless you find someone who specializes in collecting Corelon knives. And I'd say the chances are slim and none.
Again, this is JUST my opinion.

Love to all... UJ

Permalink Reply by Frank Evans on December 27, 2009 at 18:37

Jim,
This thread has been here and I just let the dog sleep... The copyright for Corelon is a Frost Co entity. Case, In my humble opinion gave it credibility by partnering the line with Frost (God Bless Frost now that they’re known for import quality nothing knives… just my humble opinion again) through the vague veil of "Premier offerings one of 500" pieces the perception of scarcity worked but now Frost has $10 Corelon that look exactly like the Case patterns from the past couple of years.

I know Case and others are fighting the youth tactical sales to the 30% of the younger collector / buyers out there. I’m not provided Case’s internal production demands but I sure would rather see them take the higher road like GEC with true limited production patterns like they did last year with the Stag Damascus line. 1000 pieces each pattern and they even reproduced the Alabama Damascus #47 pattern which I’m lucky to have both.

The debate about Corelon to me is mute…. I’ve asked on Face Book twice to Case if they plan on continuing the production with Frost now that Frost has their own lines out there to no response. IT’s a glued on handle not pinned, I have hear more stories of shield falling out and myself, I have sold off at auction locally about 10 and did well since no one has ever seen them.

Case might have a little too much Zippo in their product design teams mind now…. Pump out steel, create the appearance of scarcity and repeat the process. I hope not…I love the company, its history the legend and the lore. I not want it to become a commodity knife company. Let’s voice this to them in any way we can. If we don’t the vintage knives out there today will be the true last “vintage” Case knives. The 2010 decade stamp 50 years from now will not be a vintage resale like the Case XX today are

Thanks Jim! You seem like quite the Case man… We might have a mutual friend Tony Foster from Mt Pleasant SC.

Thanks again!

Frank

Permalink Reply by Jim Prather on December 27, 2009 at 21:09

Yes, I know Tony. I'm sure that he doesn't remember me. He saw one of my old Case Office Knives on my Photobucket and wanted to pay me a "King's Ransom" for it. I know what a dealer that Tony is, and told him that if he really wanted it, I'd give it to him. He told me that he couldn't accept it, that it was for a friend. I said, "Well, I'll send it to you and you can give it to him with my compliments". Well, he finally admitted that he wanted to buy it to make a profit. I laughed and told him that I'd still give it to him if it meant that much, and I think it kind'a shot him down because he was used to Wheelin' and Dealin'. We both got a good laugh out of it.
I did get a knife that was presented to him by WR Case as a "Thank You" for his appraisal services at a show. He had gived it to his son, Jerry, to sell on eBay to make a little extra money. I picked it up for a little over a hundred dollars. I bid on it because I had never seen one. I got it and called Shirley Boser, the Case Historian at the time. I described it to her and she asked me where I got it. I told her, and she said that they only made seven of them for people who helped out at that particular show.
The next time Tony called me, I asked him about it, and he said that he had wondered what happened to that knife. He said that Jerry was recently at his house, and that he (Tony) had just raked a bunch of knives off a shelf and gave them to Jerry to put on eBay and make himself some cash.
I offered to give it back to him, but he told me to hang on to it. That maybe some day it might be worth something.
Yep... Tony's quite a character.

Here's the knife. 1 of 7 made

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/Unclejim/Seahorsies/P1030238co...

LTA... Uncle Jim

Permalink Reply by Jim Prather on December 27, 2009 at 21:22

I thought I might post a bouple of my Photobucket pages. I'm not quite as heavy as the pictures show. Due to a slight illness this past summer, I knocked off about 35 pounds. So I'm very "svelt" at my current weight. A XX (no pun intended) shirt is a little baggy on me.
But, enough about me, enjoy the knives. Oh... One more thing: This one was "Miss August" in the 2009 WR Case Calendar.



Here are my Photobuckets:

My Photobucket Links:
Seahorses:http://s2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/Unclejim/Seahorsies/?start=all
More knives. Some I've made:
http://s2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/Unclejim/?start=all

Permalink Reply by Frank Evans on December 27, 2009 at 21:26

OUTSTANDING STORY - AND I know you did not imbelish it a bit!.... Tony is a fine fellow and he's made a lot, I mean more than he did in 35 year at Westvaco I'd feel free to say trading..... Unlike Steve Pfieffer, tony tend to keep the scarcity patern secrets to himself, not all, you can't co-publish books without reveiling some things, but in his glory days, Tony would grim at the folks he worked with that were comparig thier 401 K reports in the '80 and grin..... When asked, he'd just say all my money is in knives..... and he was there at the right time to really use his knowledge and hard resurch. You cannot take that away from him. He is the type that when he puts his mind to it, my father would say, no one knoew more about that than Tony.... Goog man, Savy but Honest as the day is long!

thanks Jim! I'll pass this along to my fahter.

Permalink Reply by Jim Prather on December 27, 2009 at 21:42

Oh... Tony doesn't have to worry about makin' a living. He told me about his house getting broken in to. And the thousands in diamonds, gold, guns and knives that were taken. He said it was all replacable. No problem.
If that had happened to me, I'd have crapped a squealin' worm! I can't stand that kind'a loss.
He's a great guy...
LTA, UJ

Permalink Reply by Frank Evans on December 27, 2009 at 22:16

That's a true story...please pass it along to Scott king... I do not think Scott beleived me. But, they think some of his shildrens friends broke in and wiped them out.....

Back then insurance companies did not limmit "collectables" ie:knives, guns, coins etc. Jewelry yes, but this was early '80s or late '70's and know underwriter thought anyone could collect $300,000 plus in knives. It was just because Tony was useing one of the first Auto Cad drafting programs he had access to offsite documentation of his purchases, the date, what he paid, the ones he sold and for how much, and the inventory he was holding... His bank deposits concured with this CAD data base he kept at work on Westvaco time for sure! But they would not have paid if he had not kept maticulous ofsite records..... The moral of the story is this..... Now days guns, knives ect have strick limits on Ho polocies and you need a specific rider. If you are a dealer like Tony and even back then on the road he'd been SOL. The HO would not have been in effect away from the dwelling. So, you and I have tried to do the same thing....I have photographed about 5/8ths of my collection here on iKC for documentation....it;s not as solid as tony's recordes but I'm not as anal as tony either. But for those folks out there that are cutom knife makers and show traders, you better have what I think they refer to as marine insurance (named after the Housr of London insuring marinors) it covers you fro the time you pack to the time you return and you can get cash coverage until you get to your bank.... in other word it all this is greek to anyone, you best call you HO agent..... $300,000 in transit and $40,000 in cash reciepts should be about $900 a year or much less depending on who the carier is and what state you reside. I have heard of $60 riders to composite policies (home, auto, recreational vehicles) being that cheep. But if you do not ask you can bet you're not covered.

thanks Jim...I've been wanting to convie that.

I have a responce to you scouting efforts I'll post in the AM....Thanks....

PS:I have to admitt, my curiosity is peeking, email me me if you do not mind and let me know more about yourself! I'm not being nosy it's in admirationthatI ask!