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Permalink Reply by Ken Spielvogel on August 8, 2013 at 14:48

Wow Paul, I can't help you but that sure is a fantastic find.

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In MemoriamPermalink Reply by Robert Burris on August 8, 2013 at 14:54

Welcome Paul, glad you are here. Give it a little time, for some of our members that specialize in this type of knife to have a look.

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Permalink Reply by PAUL S GAGNON on August 8, 2013 at 14:59

Will do, One thing ya learn at this age is plenty of patience.

Robert Burris said:

Welcome Paul, glad you are here. Give it a little time, for some of our members that specialize in this type of knife to have a look.

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Permalink Reply by PAUL S GAGNON on August 8, 2013 at 15:18

Thought it might be good to add a close up if the tang stamp.

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Permalink Reply by Ron Cooper on August 9, 2013 at 4:30

No help here, either. But it sure is unique, if nothing else! 

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Permalink Reply by Jan Carter on August 9, 2013 at 6:19

Very interesting piece!  I think your correct in that it looks to be a re-handled saber of some sort But I dont recognize the tang.  Will see if I can find anything on it

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Permalink Reply by PAUL S GAGNON on August 9, 2013 at 9:40

Thanks Jan. It might be better if it didn't have a tang stamp at all,this kind of thing can drive one crazy. I've looked through countless military sites, and virtually all of the stamps run parallel to the guard unlike this one. Well I'll keep plugging away, and again I appreciate everyone's help.

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2021 CalendarPermalink Reply by J.J. Smith III on August 9, 2013 at 19:51

Certainly looks like the tang stamp has been re stamped.  I have no idea (way out of my experience) but it's a cool looking piece.

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Permalink Reply by Mike Nollett on August 9, 2013 at 20:27

I'd be interested to know the story on this knife. How old is it? Where did it come from?

 

 

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Permalink Reply by PAUL S GAGNON on August 10, 2013 at 11:55

Hi Mike. As someone who is also interested in older Americana, I'm always on the lookout for the historical stuff. I acquired this from a very reputable source, but with no real provenance. My guess is that it is possibly a military saber fashioned into a knife by either a Native American, or a Mountain Man/Trapper. One of the ways I'm trying to establish a date for it is to identify the tang stamp. I'm also going to try to find someone to identify what the sheath is made of, and what kind of hair is embedded in the handle. Any out of the box theories you might have would be welcomed.

Mike Nollett said:

I'd be interested to know the story on this knife. How old is it? Where did it come from?

 

 

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Permalink Reply by PAUL S GAGNON on August 10, 2013 at 15:19

*****UPDATE******* Decided to do additional research on this rather than work outside in humid 90 degree weather. It paid off

The tang stamp actually reads S.H. Co., Little Gaint, St. Louis. The Simmons Hardware Co. was established around 1859 and was the same company that manufactured Keen Kutter pocket knives in New York. Here is an interesting link:

http://www.thckk.org/history/simmons-hdwe.pdf . So it would appear that the knife itself was married up with a brass guard

( military sabre?) and finished with a bone handle. While part of the mystery has been resolved, the more intriguing aspect of it is the process that someone went through in creating this unique piece, and what it was used for.

Thanks to the folks who have taken an interest in my post. I hope you have enjoyed viewing the knife. 

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In MemoriamPermalink Reply by Robert Burris on August 10, 2013 at 15:22

Great Update, Paul.

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