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Ulster Dwight Devine & Sons

I recently purchased an Ulster Scout aka Engineers knife, and noticed the name on the tang is stamped Dwight Devine & Sons, can anyone tell me how old or roughly what years it was made, I cant find any info on this, I'm sure some well seasoned knife collectors here can help me. Sorry I dont have a digital camera to take a picture of it.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Hanner on June 12, 2014 at 10:02

Dwight Divine & Sons were out of Ellenville, NY originally.

Ulster was started in 1876 by Dwight Devine
From 1900 to 1923, it was Dwight Devine and Son( I imagine as he got older)
From 1923 to 1941, the name was changed to Dwight Devine and Sons (more than one)
Here is the thing though,,, through all the above dates it was always known as Ulster Knife Co.

That explains the stamp part of it. The knives in ggod condition are quite collectable.

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Permalink Reply by Carson Klitz on June 12, 2014 at 20:18

Steve in right but I would add that Dwight Devine bought the Ellenville Knife co-op in 1876. the co-op was formed in 1871 and Dwight was an officer.I have collected Ulster's since before 1976. They are a well made knife and readilly available

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Permalink Reply by Steve Hanner on June 12, 2014 at 20:26

Thats a great additional point Carson I did not realize he bought that Co-Op, although I always wondered how he got into it? Thank you for that information.

Carson Klitz said:

Steve in right but I would add that Dwight Devine bought the Ellenville Knife co-op in 1876. the co-op was formed in 1871 and Dwight was an officer.I have collected Ulster's since before 1976. They are a well made knife and readilly available

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Permalink Reply by Robert Agin on June 14, 2014 at 6:28

Thank you Steve, that is good info, so this knife was made between 1923 to 1941 but definitely not beyond 1941?

Steve Hanner said:

Dwight Divine & Sons were out of Ellenville, NY originally.

Ulster was started in 1876 by Dwight Devine
From 1900 to 1923, it was Dwight Devine and Son( I imagine as he got older)
From 1923 to 1941, the name was changed to Dwight Devine and Sons (more than one)
Here is the thing though,,, through all the above dates it was always known as Ulster Knife Co.

That explains the stamp part of it. The knives in ggod condition are quite collectable.

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Permalink Reply by Robert Agin on June 14, 2014 at 6:32

Thank you for that additional info Carson,when you say readilly available, does that mean that these knives are plentiful, or is this particular knife that I have rare?

Carson Klitz said:

Steve in right but I would add that Dwight Devine bought the Ellenville Knife co-op in 1876. the co-op was formed in 1871 and Dwight was an officer.I have collected Ulster's since before 1976. They are a well made knife and readilly available

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Permalink Reply by Steve Hanner on June 14, 2014 at 8:46

Correct Robert, in terms of value, much is dependent upon condition of the piece. I also do not know how many of the piece you have were made back then. That is another component of value to the collector.

Robert Agin said:

Thank you Steve, that is good info, so this knife was made between 1923 to 1941 but definitely not beyond 1941?

Steve Hanner said:

Dwight Divine & Sons were out of Ellenville, NY originally.

Ulster was started in 1876 by Dwight Devine
From 1900 to 1923, it was Dwight Devine and Son( I imagine as he got older)
From 1923 to 1941, the name was changed to Dwight Devine and Sons (more than one)
Here is the thing though,,, through all the above dates it was always known as Ulster Knife Co.

That explains the stamp part of it. The knives in ggod condition are quite collectable.

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Permalink Reply by Jan Carter on June 14, 2014 at 19:15

WOW, this is some good info that I did not know the ins and outs of. Thank you

Found this link from Sue Olswidow in the Bladesmith Babes and Research group...http://oldwalkandtalkknives.com/ulster-knife-company.html

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Permalink Reply by Carson Klitz on June 14, 2014 at 20:39

Robert; I started collecting Ulsters in the early 1970's and a good friend collected Ulster Whittlers. He sold his collection to a fellow in Iowa and I think that it is now owned by a fellow in Minnesota. I would say the knives are not hard to find. I have always found them at major shows.25 years ago it was predicted that Ulsters would be highly sought after but I don't think that that is the case now. I have a decent collection but I continue to look.good collecting. Ulster was sold to Schrade in 1941 and to my knowledge the stamp was changed to Ulster U.S.A. I don't collect anything after 1941. Hope this helps you. Good collecting Carson

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Permalink Reply by Robert Agin on June 15, 2014 at 9:27

Thank you carson, I have recently bagan collecting the Ulsters and find them very intesting, there does't seem to be much info out there, so it does make it a little more challenging for sure. And for that reason it keeps things interesting.

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Permalink Reply by Robert Agin on June 15, 2014 at 9:35

The one I have is in very good condition, and appears to have the factory edge on it. I doesn't look like it has ever seen a sharpening stone.The scales are in excelent condition, the blade steel does have a patina on them, no rust or pitting, still has a very good snap to it when I close the blade. I'm going to invest in a digital camera to take a good picture, and post it as soon as possible. The master blade does have a number 4518 stamped on it as well.
Steve Hanner said:

Correct Robert, in terms of value, much is dependent upon condition of the piece. I also do not know how many of the piece you have were made back then. That is another component of value to the collector.

Robert Agin said:

Thank you Steve, that is good info, so this knife was made between 1923 to 1941 but definitely not beyond 1941?

Steve Hanner said:

Dwight Divine & Sons were out of Ellenville, NY originally.

Ulster was started in 1876 by Dwight Devine
From 1900 to 1923, it was Dwight Devine and Son( I imagine as he got older)
From 1923 to 1941, the name was changed to Dwight Devine and Sons (more than one)
Here is the thing though,,, through all the above dates it was always known as Ulster Knife Co.

That explains the stamp part of it. The knives in ggod condition are quite collectable.

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Permalink Reply by Carson Klitz on June 15, 2014 at 16:58

Robert; The knife you describe is probably the most common of the Ulsters. However if near mint as you describe it still has substantial value. The number in my opinion is of no value as I have never been able to make any sense out of the Ulster number.I'm sure that you will get much enjoyment from you collecting.