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  • In Memoriam

    Robert Burris

    I'll be deboning some venison and pork with one of my Christmas kitchen knives to make some great ground meat. The knives are made of Japanese VG 10 Damascus. I can't wait to see how well they do. .  

  • Jan Carter

    I am anxious to hear about how you like them Robert


  • In Memoriam

    Robert Burris

    Miss Jan, these are great knives. They are the best kitchen knives I have ever used. I used one to debone venison and pork and it slices through meat like a hot knife through butter. I have used one knife a lot since I received them and it still does not need sharpening. I can see why the high price. Great knife steel.

  • Jan Carter

    I am glad you like them!  I hear great things about the Japanese steel in some of the kitchen knives being sold

  • RONALD T. BUNDICK

    Nice Load of wood there.


  • In Memoriam

    Robert Burris

    Hey Ya'll, do they make folders and fixed blades in this VG 10 steel?

  • Jan Carter

    Robert,

    Yes there are a couple of companies that do http://www.knifecenter.com/kc_new/store_store.html?ttl=knives%20wit...  

  • Jan Carter

  • Jan Carter

    This is as close to a traditional I can find in the VG 10 Robert

    http://www.agrussell.com/product.asp?pn=RUS-P73P

    and again a very reasonable pricing

  • Alexander Noot

    Jan, you're misstaken. Want a traditional in VG-10?

    If you're looking for something small you can get the Pinched Peanut:

    http://www.agrussell.com/ag-russell-european-stag-pinched-peanut/p/...

    A little bigger is the Dogleg Trapper. Used to be available in Stag as well but not at the moment:

    http://www.agrussell.com/ag-russell-dogleg-trapper/p/RUShhhJT13hhhCO/

    He also does a few fixed blades in VG-10 like the Droppoint hunter in several variations that has a VG-10 cutting edge.

    http://www.agrussell.com/ag-russell-cocobolo-san-mai-drop-point-hun...

    Since A.G. makes my favourite production knives I'll also show you a couple of the less fancy (and expensive) ones.

    If you don't want to spend too much thought you get the One Hand Knife in VG-10

    Which is one of my alltime favourite knives, in VG-10 and under $50.

    http://www.agrussell.com/ag-russell-one-hand-knife-general-purpose-...

    But there are more companies who do VG-10. Spyderco for instance does a lot of knives in VG-10

  • Jan Carter

    Thank you Alexander, We were looking at AG's in the chat last night.  Very traditional and AG quality!

  • Jan Carter

    Robert,

    Wanted to let you know on the way home tonight, as we turned onto our road.  4 Doe ran right by us and we sat and watched them play in the field below our mountain for about 15 mins!  IT WAS AWESOME!!


  • In Memoriam

    Robert Burris

    Thanks so much, I should have known that Mr. AG. would have some nice knives in VG10. I love the Loveless fixed blade and the trapper. I may have to get one for my birthday.

     I'm glad you saw some deer, they are so much fun to watch. I have seen a bunch so for this season but have just enjoyed seeing them and have not pulled the trigger on one yet. Some of my friends have given me some deer meat. I still have time to kill a nice buck.

      We had bad luck hunting this weekend, the couple that have a camp next to mine, well, she passed away after dinner today. So sad. A beautiful Cajun couple. We shut down all hunting for the rest of the weekend in her honor.

  • Jan Carter

    Bless you all Robert.  Honoring her in that manner had great meaning to the husband I am sure

  • Tobias Gibson

    A group of friends who went deer hunting separated into pairs for the day. That night, one hunter returned alone, staggering under a huge buck.

    "Where's Harry?", asked another hunter.

    "He fainted a couple miles up the trail," Harry's partner answered.

    "You left him lying there alone and carried the deer back?"

    "It was a tough decision," said the hunter. "But I figured no one is going to steal Harry."

  • Ron Cooper

    Say WHAT! You mean to tell me that that owl just let you pick it up? Looks like a hand puppet in this picture. I don't think I want to know where your hand might be, either!

  • Jan Carter

    Now you need a new Owl to eat them mice!!

  • Tobias Gibson

    Too bad about the owl.  Looks real pretty.

  • Jan Carter

    OK, I like this one, why carry and clean a skillet if you dont have to


  • Featured

    Jeremy B. Buchanan

    I have seen that one a few times Jan. I need to try it.

  • Tobias Gibson

    I've done it.  First time was in high school chemistry class, back when teachers could let students try crazy things!  You can also boil water in a paper cup.    Paper burns at 451 degrees Fahrenheit.  The grease from the bacon or the water in the cup prevents the temperature of the paper to get that hot.  

  • Jan Carter

    One of the reasons I like it, the avoidance of food smells.  With a skillet in your pack you REALLY need to be sure your not a walking bear magnet.  You can bury the paper bag, it will decompose and your not a walking bacon billboard


  • Featured

    Charles Sample

    Jan, based on some of your posts, I am beginning to get the idea that you don't really want any up close and personal contacts with bears!  LOL

  • Tobias Gibson

    Well being form Chicago, I can tell you the Bears around here can't fight their way out of a paper bag!

  • Jan Carter

    Nope but they sure are cute in pictures LOL

  • Tobias Gibson

    I'd say the best thing about cooking in a bag is the weight vs. a heavy pan.  Still I've cooked quite a bit of stuff in canteen cups and army mess tins.

  • Jan Carter

    shortest total lunar eclipse of the 21st century.   Will you get up early to enjoy it?

    http://www.space.com/29008-total-lunar-eclipse-saturday-visibility....

  • tim payne

    gonna try to keep peeking outside, to try to catch this lunar eclipse

  • Jan Carter

    I was bummed, I got up but there was way to much cloud cover to see anything

  • Jan Carter

    What do you think guys??


  • Featured

    Charles Sample

    I don't know Jan.  I split a lot of wood in my time but I would have to try it to see how it worked.


  • Featured

    Charles Sample

    Another thing, that wood looks carefully chosen to be easy to split to me.

  • John Bamford

    Looks like birch wood to me easy enough to split till you get down to the base of the tree where it gets kind of stringy . I split a lot of that when I was younger but don't want the job now , not with this axe or a standard one .

  • Tobias Gibson

    It seems to purpose built to me.  I do more with an axe than just split wood.  Still if that all you need to do, then it might be the thing you need!

  • Jan Carter

    I was wondering the same thing Tobias.  Even if it works good for splitting, is it able to be used for more?  Looking at the wood you all may be correct, it may be birch

  • Jan Carter

    Just a cool video!

  • Jan Carter

    Life lesson.....at least sharpen the hatchet LOL

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    North Adams police said on their Facebook page that someone did just that on Monday.

    "Chasing bears through the woods drunk with a dull hatchet is strongly not advised," the department posted, noting that the man was taken into protective custody "due to his incapacitation from the consumption of alcoholic beverage."

    No name was released.

    Police said anyone who sees a bear should leave it alone and call authorities.

    "We certainly don't need anyone going all Davy Crockett ..." police wrote.

    Bears are not unusual in the largely rural western part of the state.

    A dispatcher said Tuesday said no one was available to handle media calls.

    Copyright 2015 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.



  • Featured

    Charles Sample

    Even a sharp hatchet I would backup with at least a .44 magnum!  LOL

  • Tobias Gibson

    Does Jay Cutler have a vacation home in Western Massachusetts?  I can picture a drunken Bears fan chasing him with a dull hatchet!


  • Featured

    Charles Sample

    Very funny Tobias!  Poor Jay!

    BTW I went to college at Vanderbilt.

  • Tobias Gibson

    Just throwing out an idea and figured this is one of the best place to start.  I'm thinking of either forming a group to discuss fishing.  I'm think everything from sharing fishing stories, advice on gear, etc.   Of course  a good chunk would also focus on collecting vintage tackle and knives as well as what you use when you go fishing today.  Would people be interested in such a group?

  • Jan Carter

    Well, due to cloud cover I missed last nights BUCK MOON.  I hope some of you were able to see it

    According to the Farmer’s Almanac, July’s first moon is also called the buck moon, because this is the time of year when bucks begin to grow their antlers.

    Right now, the moon is 99.5 percent full and could be seen beautifully last night in conjunction with Venus and Jupiter, who are having a rendezvous this month with Regulus – the brightest star in the constellation Leo – playing a starring role.

    Today is a good day to go fishing, the almanac says.

    July is a lucky month with two full moons tonight and on July 31

  • Jan Carter

    It's summer time and lots of folks are hitting the trails again for the long summer day hikes and back packing trips in to the deeper bush to get away from it all

    Environmental Awareness

    Thanks to Fiddleback Forge for making this info available!!

  • Jan Carter

    Just thought I would share, I liked it

    Mato (Bear) was not big enough to harm anybody. His mother called him Matochikala (Small Bear) in the language of the Lakota People.

    When his mother awoke from her long sleep, she took Small Bear out into the bright sunshine of spring. "What are these creatures flying high above my head?" asked Small Bear. "Wanbli," (Eagle) his mother replied in her low gruff voice. "It is from Eagle that we learn to live our life in dignity. Eagle's eyes are keener than our own, so we always listen to warnings he sends from above." 
    Small Bear's mother led him across the sweet-smelling meadow to the edge of a river where she would teach him to drink. He put his nose into the cold, clear mini (water) and took a taste. The shock of the rushing water made him instantly alert and watchful. Many years later, when he had grown into his warrior name, Mato would remember his first drink. Whenever he needed clarity of thought or alertness for hunting, he would plunge himself into the river to prepare himself for the task.

    Mato remembered his early days with fondness, for his mother was a great teacher. She always protected him and gave him guidance for living the fullness of life. She taught him how to hunt for grubs inside the rotting trunks of fallen fir trees. She taught him which flowers and grasses were sweetest, which roots would make him strong, and which berries would fill out his flesh for his first long winter's sleep.

    And she taught him how to catch the Hogan Luta (red fish) as they came crashing up against him in the slippery river. Mato's mother showed him a special place between two craggy rocks where he could lodge himself. "Wait quietly and with patience in this place," she said, "and the great red flashing, thrashing things will jump right into your mouth."

    And so it was that the people learned to fish... by watching Mato and his mother. From that time forth, Mato and the people never went hungry, as long as he and his brothers could be seen fishing in the river.

    Mato has taught the Lakota People much, however Mato does not like interaction with any of the two legged animals known as Wicasa (Man). Therefore when we go into the land of Mato we must show respect and keep our distance. Remember Mato would rather not waste his time dealing with us so follow these steps If you encounter Mato (the bear).

    Remember: Black bear attacks are uncommon. In most cases, a bear will avoid human contact. It is never safe to approach a bear. If a bear stands on his hind legs, he is trying to detect scents; he is not necessarily behaving aggressively

    1: Give any bear you encounter a way to escape.

    2: Step off the trail and slowly walk away.

    3: If you see bear cubs, steer clear and leave the area.

    4: If you encounter a bear, stay calm. Do not run or make sudden movements. Back away slowly as you face the bear.

    5: Avoid direct eye contact with the bear.

    6: In the unlikely event you are attacked, fight back. Shout, be aggressive, and use rocks, sticks, or hands to fend off an attack.

  • Jan Carter

    How do you get ready for fall, the different hunting types and seasons?  Most of our begin in September but there seems to be a good amount of talk going on about using next month to set sights and practice.  Some of the younger folks are getting excited about the bow season


  • Featured

    Charles Sample

    Our first season to open is dove on Sep. 12, then squirrel and rabbit on Sep. 15.  Archery deer season opens on Oct. 15, muzzleloader season opens on Nov. 16, and gun deer season opens on Nov. 21.  All three run through Jan. 31.  The limit is a buck and a doe a day with a three buck season limit.

    I will use Sep. to sight in my crossbow, muzzleloader, and .30-06 rilfle.  Also to make sure my deer stands are ready.  At least one of them needs some repairs.  I will set up my portable ground blind in mid Sep. to use for bow hunting.  The deer will be used to it being there by bow season.

  • Jan Carter

    Charles,

    I asked because we have had quite a few out checking stands and working on sighting in.  We are no longer walking down in the valley but along the road.  I understand we will not be back in the valley until well into the winter since that is where our hunters go

  • Jan Carter

    also I did not realize there was a squirrel season LOL.  I thought they were open game

  • Jan Carter

    SO WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO DO TO PREPARE DURING THE FALL FOR YOUR WINTER ACTIVITIES ?? 

  • J.J. Smith III

    In SC, all we do is get out a long sleeve shirt.