Okay here's what Michael Prater told me. Corlon(not what he calls it) was developed by him and any knife with Corlon is assembled by his shop. He had several barrels of yellow Case handles in his shop. Now they send him the assembled knives without scales. They are 2 authorized dealers of Corlon handled knives Frost in Tn. and I believe Bluegrass in Ky.. If you are in the Chattanooga area His shop is just a short ride in Flintstone,Ga. One of my daughters use to live only 15 miles from his shop and I've been there several times. They are good people and will greet you with open arms.

So, if Case uses someone else to help with demand, or whatever, they have to change their "motto" or whatever you call it? Give me a break. More "let's find something to hate the king of the hill" garbage again! I don't care! I love my Case knives. They give me more pleasure than all the other knives I've bought in many years.....yes that includes GEC! GO CASE!

I think Jan makes a good point.  Even casual reading about knives shows that competing knife companies made knives for each other, as far back as you want to look.  That's what makes it so difficult.  One might need a PhD to figure out all the knives made by someone other than the what is stamped on the tang.  I think Tidioute made knives for the Case Brothers back in the day, maybe Queen, too.

Yes, outsourcing/jobbing is as old as the knife industry itself! And knife companies didn't change their "motto" because someone else made their knives! Sheesh!

I'm sorry for the outburst, but myself and other Case lovers get sick and tired of the anti-Case stuff that goes on all the time in various places.

Your the one who's talkin hate Craig. I just asked a question about where they're being made. I love Case too. Frost, not so much. Get a grip!

And you speak for all Case lovers? I think not.

Did Michael Prater also do the Hen & Rooster Corelon handled knives?

I understand all about "outsourcing" and "jobbing" the whole point of my question was not so much about Case Knives, but about Frost Cutlery. I, personally, just my "thing", do not want anything to do with Frost Cutlery. I think they have done more to hurt the American Knife Industry than anyone else. The horribly cheap so-called knives from Pakistan are the worst. What happens when Frost decides to "outsource" Case Knives to Pakistan? Or have them "jobbed" in Chinee?

I'm "talkin hate"? Not sure how you figure that. Funny. Do I speak for "all" Case lovers? No, of course not. I said "myself and other Case lovers", I didn't say ALL. And you act condescending to me by telling me to "Get a grip"? Nice. LOL!  

Bob, 

I know you represent a well known company I am also aware they job for other companies.  You have a forum of your own so as the senior member of this forum I do not appreciate your attempt at riling up our guys about a product they love.  iKC is the place where all knives, yes even Frost, are welcome and their owners are given the respect due them as knife collectors.

To the members of our Case group, I apologize for this attack.  My next action is to suspend the member.  This is not the first time I have had this discussion with him about respect

What a mess - I know to little about this subject - but I know about respect and I have the utmost respect for Craig and Jan.

Thank you Jan.

So who else is stoked for the upcoming Teardrops?   I can't remember the last time I was this excited about a new knife coming out.  This has the makings of an outstanding EDC.

I'm with Ken.  I don't know nothin about "vested interests" here.  I like knives, enjoy the passion about knives, and appreciate friendship and camaraderie here.  Plus, I learn something from other folks' interest in this or that knife or maker.

Hey Paul,

I recently received my W.R. Case Collectors Club magazine and it looks like that Teardrop Jack will be available in the 125th Anniv. Series (page 6).

Oh, I still haven't received any official paperwork about the Norris, TN event, but I booked a room at a local hotel.

Yeah, I saw that.  Those aren't really "my thing"...I likes my user knives.  Anxiously waiting for the ebony and amber bone though.

I won't be heading down to Norris.  I'll be celebrating the anniversary in Bradford in July at the Visitor's Center.

Same here howard hotel is booked but havent received info yet.  I am also excited about the teardrop since it is a collab is it 154?

I believe the information packets for Norris will be mailing out soon.

Paul,

I'll be in Bradford 18-19 July, but didn't know there was anything special going on.  You suppose there will be discount cards available even though the main event is in Norris, TN?

There isn't anything special going on...Other than me being in town,,lol

I'll be there on the 19th.  There might be a few from the CCC forum there too.  I took that week for  vacation for the reunion.  With the reunion going on the road this year,  I figured I'd celebrate on my own.  Looks like we might have an unofficial get together in the making.

Thanks Jan!

"So who else is stoked for the upcoming Teardrops?   I can't remember the last time I was this excited about a new knife coming out.  This has the makings of an outstanding EDC."

Yes, I think it is gonna be a BIG seller for Case! I'm waiting for the two blade. 

Have a ore order for the shot show single blade TB10655 and a order for  the Stag TB520280  2 Blade  cant wait to have them in hand

Good job Jan.  I respect you Jan and you Craig and all members of this forum.  That respect for each other and each other's ideas is one of the things that makes this such a great forum.  If someone doesn't like a particular type or brand of knife, they don't have to collect it.  But don't disrespect anyone else if they do.

A look at the Jr. Scout in Amber Jigged Bone

Looks like a great knife Tobias.

Thanks, Tobias.

Here's the Jr.Scout in Stag! Great video Tobias!

Max,  that is one fine stag!

I'm also doing  a video my stag Jr. scout .  I  was going to do one video on all of Jr. Scouts but decided against it.   ( you can see the other two in the background!) They all have unique attributes and deserve their own spotlight. Plus, I see more of them in my future.

Max, that is a great looking Stag - I enjoyed looking at the pic, I might look for one myself.

Great Scout! Max.

Great looking knives! I need a Case Jr. Scout!

That should mean that Michael prater is also putting the Corelon handle on the Hen & Roosters. He has even put some of that material on a GEC knife. I have 1 or 2 GEC knives with his handle material on them that were made for SMKW.

Billy That's what he told me. If it has corelon on it it came out of his shop. They make the stuff right in his shop.

Grerald,

He has told me the same thing.  Some they handle, others he just ships out the material to and they do the assembly themselves at the manufacture

Michael Prater may make the Corelon but it has to be done in conjunction with Jim Frost because Frost owns the TM to Corelon.  I have no clue how the licensing works.  Frost has been putting it on Case knives for years but it seems he has started putting it on Hen & Roosters for the last year or so.

Doesnt Frost own Hen & Rooster tang?

I swear I read something last week saying Case was bringing back gum fuddy?  Does anyone know is this the original gum fuddy or are they making an imitation gumfuddy?

Yes Jan; Jim does own the hen and rooster trademark.

From what I understand the new gumfuddy is just a compostion handle jigged to match waht the other gumfuddy looked like.   Gumfuddy was some weird type of hard rubber.  They actually brought it back about two years ago.

See this Case Russlock at SMKW

Rough black delrin...http://www.wrcase.com/knives/standard/rough-black/

Paul's right, I read somewhere, that the new ones are delrin. 

Here's the only one I have, but I want a few more.

From the Case site;

"Most likely have never heard the phrase, “Gum Fuddy.” Those familiar with vintage pocket knives, however, recognize this nickname given to some special Case knives made during a pivotal time in American history. Now W.R. Case & Sons has brought back these old favorites back with a “Rough Black” family of knives. 


The new Rough Black family consists of eight patterns, each fitted with specially jigged handles, Tru-Sharp™ surgical steel blades, nickel silver bolsters and a Case oval shield. They include: Trapper (6254 SS), #18222 Medium Stockman (6318 SS), #18223 Small Texas Toothpick (610096 SS), #18224 RussLock® (61953L SS), #18225 Peanut (6220 SS), #18226 Canoe (62131 SS), #18227 Humpback Stockman (63046 SS) and #18228 Slimline Trapper (61048 SS). 

The story behind Case’s Rough Black pocket knives begins in the 1940’s with the advent of World War II, when many raw materials used to produce consumer goods were diverted to support the war effort. Materials traditionally used to make pocket knife handles were no exception. A race to market knives with new, never-before-seen materials ensued between competing knife manufacturers. 

In that search, Case product developers came upon a hard black synthetic material which demonstrated high durability, strength and overall appeal. A special jigging pattern was applied to the material surface to create the unique “Rough Black” knife handle slabs. The knives that resulted became known as “Gum Fuddy” knives at Case, a nickname quickly adopted by the consumer market as sales of Rough Black knives grew. 

Case phased out production of “Gum Fuddy” knives after the war, as traditional handle materials made their way back to market."

Good story Craig. Paul Harvey would say what about the rest of the story? I hope I haven't missed it..........smooth black?

I have this one

Nice Barlow Max!!

Thanks for the history, Craig.

Max, nice looking Barlow.  Great etch on the bolster.

Latest review is of the Case Jr. Scout in Stag.

http://www.iknifecollector.com/video/case-jinior-scout-in-stag