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Hi All!  I am new to the IKnifeCollector family.  I look forward to discussions about Guns with this group.

Hey John, thanks for joining the group.

You can see pictures of my favorite gun, my Model 1873 Winchester here.

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Well yesterday I finally felt well enough to go hunting again.  I saw a total of 14 deer.  Two does were close enough to shoot but I didn't.  The season ends this Sunday.  In the last two or three days, if I haven't gotten a buck I will shoot a doe.  So far this season I have seen 76 deer while hunting.

Here are two of the deer I saw.

There are six deer in this picture.  This is the infamous fence that they are on the wrong side of.  They are also out of range.  They are probably 400-500 yards away.  Those markers you see on the fence poles are my range markers.  They are 50 yards apart.  The red one is at 150 yards.  It is a little over 200 yards to the next corner.

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In reality the first 2 say it all LOL

Recent picture from my game camera.

Does anyone have a Glock? What model, what do you use it for and do you like it?

Ken, I don't have a Glock but from all I have read they are good dependable and durable guns.  Those that own them like them.  The main thing I don't like about them, other than not being American made, is that they have no restrike capability.  If it goes click instead of bang, you have to rack the slide to recock it.

Thanks Charles for the feedback. Glock has a major headquarters in Atlanta, Georgia, but yes, they are made in Austria. I love them. As far as a restrike goes: I have never had or even heard of a Glock not firing, unless there was something wrong with the ammo. But that could be a concern. They have been dropped from helicopters, frozen in ice, buried in mud - and when fired - Bang. They are in my opinion the most reliable and easily maintained semi autopistol on the market. I do value other opinions and love to hear about them.

Correction: that US Glock HQ is in Smyrna, GA

"Gun control: The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her panty hose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound." — L. Neil Smith

Charles,

I am of the opinion that I can 'splain the bullet hole LOL

I carry a Glock 19 Ken, 3rd generation, 15 + 1, and when I'm working where I need to carry it, it's in a Blackhawk Serpa level 2 retention, with 2 spare mags in a Blackhawk mag carrier on the left side. Loaded up with 9mm Hornady XTPs, and I hope not to ever have to use it for it's primary intended purpose. :-)

Yes, I like it, really like it. As somebody at work once said, it eats everything I feed it, no jacking around with not liking some ammo brands. This is my first Glock, I've had a few different CZ models previously. At this point I would be unlikely to buy anything different.

My Glock performed a mercy shot on an 8 point buck I spine shot with a muzzle loader in November last year that dropped where he stood 15 - 20 yards from me. I was out of the tree stand and up to that buck in less than a minute, barely aimed at the vitals area and it was over literally in seconds.

My wife likes my Glock 19 enough when I was looking for something a little smaller for her but still in 9mm, I wanted to take her to try different makes including Springfield for grip. She said no, she wanted a Glock, so I got her a 43. A bit small for my hands even with a pinky extender, and I'm not big but I can still use it well enough. She actually shoots my 19 better than her 43. Some people say they don't like a smaller pistol like the 43 because it is too "snappy". Try a good grip, small as it is, recoil is minimal. Caliber, model, physical size are 

Both of ours were made in Austria, but for what it's worth, not all Glocks are made in Austria - Smyrna is a fully functional factory.

Glock factory tour article

I think the reason we may not see many made in US Glocks is that I had read one of the conditions for government contracts was made in the US, so a US branch / factory opened, and that likely feeds government contracts while Austria supplies ordinary consumers like us. I have no problem with that. Made in CHina knives is far less desirable to me than made in US, or Austria. :-)

And if you anyone ever really needs a "restrike" - I probably would not really want to depend on shooting a misfired round a second time which I have also never heard of and think is extremely unlikely, but you could do it if you really wanted to without fully racking the slide. You can pull the slide about 1/4" back, the round does not eject,but the striker resets. I really would not want to do that either, I like the slide flying forward putting the round fully into battery under it's own spring pressure without and help from my hands. I find that's one thing I have to keep telling new shooters, don't ever try to "help" that pistol / rifle by letting it forward under human control. Pull the slide or charging handle back, let it go and let it do what it was designed to do with the spring.

allanm

"And if you anyone ever really needs a "restrike" - I probably would not really want to depend on shooting a misfired round a second time which I have also never heard of and think is extremely unlikely, but you could do it if you really wanted to without fully racking the slide. You can pull the slide about 1/4" back, the round does not eject,but the striker resets."

If I had a Glock and if I had a misfire, before I would try to just rack the slide a 1/4", I would go ahead and rack it all the way.  It would probably be just about as quick and you would have a fresh round in the chamber.

My 9 mm and my .45 are both hammer fired Rugers and both DA/SA.  If it were a defense situation and I was double tapping, I would probably already have the trigger pulled the second time by the time it registered on me that the first try was a misfire.  Obviously by then I would rack the slide to chamber a new round if the restrike didn't fire it.

I have a Glock 17...just for the purpose of traveling around camping in our travel trailer. The Glock and four extra mags gives me all the ammo I would need. I have carried this Glock on duty for about a year. I have qualified with a 100% score with this Glock. We had Glocks in Iraq (I was an International Police Adviser) but were issued Beretta 92F. Some of the guys acquired the Glocks from those Iraqi Police Officers who were issued them by us then turned them on us. They didn't need them after that so a few of the American officers had those to carry. Me, I carried what I was issued and how it was issued. I am a 1911 .45acp EDC. American made and proud of it.

A note of interest. The USA gave 140,000 Glock 19 to the Iraqi police. I have seen 10,000 in one spot. Not long after the issuing of the Glocks to the Iraqi police we started finding them in the "Black" markets in Kurdistan.

Clint, that Glock 17 is a great gun. I rented one at Gunsite Academy in Arizona and I loved it, extremely accurate.

Allanm, I very much enjoyed reading your post. I also have a Glock 19 and love it. I read where the Navy Seals just adopted it as their official sidearm. That 43 is a sweet shooting pistol and perfect for your wife. I was going to get one, but they were sold out, so I bought a Glock 26, with that I can also use the Glock 19 mags as back up. I just purchased a new Glock 30S .45, in that I can also use the Glock 21 mags for back up. I am going to take that one up to Alaska fishing. 

I hate it that so many Glocks ended up in the black market. That seems to be what happens when we arm the middle east. Austria should have known better. I like Austria however, and their quality is excellent, esp. in the Glocks.

Thanks for the comments.

I saw the article about the Seals also Ken, I think it's a good endorsement. Somebody at work has a lock 17 and told me his mags will go in fine and give an extra 2 rounds. I took one to try, just for curiosity - thought I did expect that to be ttrue - and he's right. It sticks out an extra 1/2" or so. I would rather have 2 spare 15 round mags on my left side than one 17, or one 17 in and one spare 17.

I agree with Charles too, basically what I said initially - I would not want to try a second shot on a misfire. I'd be racking and loading a new round. But I'd also be shocked if my Hornady XTPs ever failed. I'll use other brands in FMJ for practice, and a few Hornady's occasionally, but never an FMJ for every day carry, and not many XTPs for practice because of cost.

Flip side - I have a friend who was a career army / airborne ranger / special forces guy and he dislikes Glock. I think just in principle. He's a Sig guy. He loaned me his Sig 9mm one day to try, I didn't like it at all. It shoots fine, it's nice and sturdy all steel, but I found his trigger a little heavy and that model is a single / double so the first round I had to pull the hammer back manually.

To each his own. I also built an AR-15 maybe 2 years ago now, but while half the world seems to want a carbine length barrel, I wanted the longest I could get, and heaviest. I found an upper kit in 7.62x39, 20" barrel and put that onto a Spike's Tactical multi caliber stripped lower. That makes it deer legal since 7.62 is bigger than .23 the minimum caliber i Virginia and I think many other states.

Some guys want 5.56 / .223 because it is a little lighter and flatter trajectory. I like 123 grains of lead more than 55 grains. Some people argue with me when I see them with a rifle marked .223 Win and want to tell me it's 5.56. Not if it says .223 Win ... pressures are not the same.

Did some shooting today including my two Ruger Blackhawks (.45 and 10 mm), my Marlin Golden 39A Mountie (.22), my Ruger LCP (.380), my SKS (7.62x39) and my Ruger P89 (9 mm).

I also put some rounds through this (.38-40).

Nice old rifle Charles.

LOL Dale

When you find out Dale, let us know.  We could all use the tip.  LOL

American Ginny Thrasher wins the first gold medal of the Olympics in women's 10m air rifle. Upset, neither AP nor SI picked her to medal.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2016/08/06/virgin...

Way to go Ginny!  And she is a hunter too!  Shooting is a sport that a woman can do as well as any man.  The more women in the sport, the better.

It has been my experience, women are more natural shooters than men. With a first time shooter woman and man, the woman will win more than half the time. Great job Ginny.

Mike this is exactly right. The first time I took my girlfriend out to shoot, wife now, She shot the socks off of me. Hurt my pride but...I married her anyway...46 years ago. She has her own revolver at the house. Anyone comes in uninvited....well...bring the body bag boys.

I just finished testing the Henry AR7 Survival Rifle. Right out of the box it shot 50 rounds without a hiccup. With very little practice I would say anyone could take the parts from the stock and assemble in less than a minute. This excellent firearm sells for about $250.00. It comes with two ten round mags. You can store the rifle in the butt with a mag loaded and one mag stored loaded. The sights are a oblong peep sight with an orange front blade. Very little practice and I could hit a coke can at 25 yards. Great 100% made in the USA.This is the wife's Nephew Justin. We were at 10,200 feet in the Upper Taylor River Park in Colorado. Nice and cool but very thin on oxygen.

Clint,

That is a very interesting gun.  I love the storage idea.  Better yet is that it is usable!  It sounds as if it might be a great rifle for someone wanting to learn.  Being easily usable , one could get use to the action and sighting  

Jan.....

You are correct. One could make this their main survival rifle. It fits perfect in a two day backpack and can be pulled out and put together in less than a minute. The rail on top is perfect for a scope with a removable mount. In this way you can remove the scope and mount for storage and then replace them without moving your POA (point of aim). The scope and mount will have to be stored separate from the rifle unit.

If anyone is worried about a .22 long rifle being capable as a defense round then worry no more. Professionally I have investigated or been involved in investigations where a .22 LR was used to take another persons life. The vast majority were gang related, disputes and a few suicides. I also know a many deer have been taken with a .22 LR as well. It is all about shot placement. If you are serious about prepping, survival and backpacking, in my opinion the Henry AR7 is a must have.

This a great gun. I want one to carry in my "Get home backpack". Very useful for hunting and other survival needs. The price is around 350 here in Canada.

Ron, is this because of the rate of exchange?

Yes Charles. I am looking at a price difference of $33.00 per one hundred right now. 

I bought this gun a yea or so ago at around 240.00. Look at the price now.   http://frontierfirearms.ca/ruger-10-22-crr-blued-22-lr/

Ron

That seems pretty high even at todays prices. Ruger's website says MSRP is $309.00. They are going up fast though. I think I paid about $165.00 but that was a long time ago. GREAT RIFLE! http://www.ruger.com/products/1022Carbine/models.html

John that MSRP is in US dollars I think. In Canada it is 1.33 per one US dollar. 

Ron

Thanks for the heads up. I guess I didnt realize you were in Canada. Price makes more sense now. Either way...(I agree its a great little rifle. I have two, one with a scope and one with open sights.

is this new?  Buck Bow Tool

Jan, according to Buck's web site, it was introduced in 2015.

http://www.rkguns.com/pw-arms-ar-12-12-gauge-semi-automatic-shotgun...

Cool. Good idea for Firepower Magazine. Thanks Jan.

Bow season opened today.  I was in my blind at 5:40 AM.  Saw two deer.  Just got a glimpse of them through an opening in the trees at 7:02.  They were about 200 yards away.

My game camera took this picture of probably one of the deer I saw.  They were about 50 yards from this point and moving toward it when I saw them.

This is the view out of my blind.

Looking like fall at your place and hooray for Bow season!

I went hunting again today.  I got setup in my blind at 2:15 PM.  I was beginning to think that all I was going to see today was several of these guys.

But about 5:15 this fellow showed up.

At this point he was about 75 yards away from my blind.  He held back a while and finally started moving closer.  He made it to within about 35 yards from me but I wasn't able to get off a shot.  He did a good job of keeping trees and brush between him and me.

"Blind" Hunting is not common in my part of the world  - I can see the advantages & the enjoyment of silently waiting/meditating - but obviously the disadvantage is you cannot move very far when just a few feet either way may give you a clear shot.

To you Charles and anyone else who enjoys this sort of hunting I can recommend this book   "Hunting from Home: A year afield in the Blue Ridge Mountains." Christopher Camuto Check your local Library 

Love the Photos by the way