Here's a picture of my new little friend. I'm going camping this weekend with my granddaughters and I'll be putting it to the test. I'll let you guys know how it fairs.
I was asked to write a review for a seahorse whittler so I'll give it my best try. I have never owned a seahorse whittler or any wharncliffe blade in my life. I always bought blades relating to outdoor activities.
The case seahorse whittler that I purchased came with stag scales, not the quality of the 60s and 70s, but still very nice stag. The knife came with razor sharp blades, they're thin and adapted to precision cutting.
The knife arrived just in time for a planned camping and fishing trip with my two grandaughters, alot of my good friends and their children. So I figured I'd give this new knife a try on this trip.
On a camping trip like this, there is need for a small pocket knife; opening packages, food preparation, cutting fish lines and so forth. The knife passed all the tests and everyone that saw it fell in love with it.
It's only drawback was when it was time to clean fish. It's not very well suited for this task. I cleaned a few with it so it will get you out a bind if it's the only knife you have with you.
I make walking staffs for fun and as gifts for friends and family. I'm starting to make more and may start selling them and I thought it would be a good idea to carve something into them, like a face or different designs and patterns. It has worked great so far. It carves like a dream. I would encourage anyone wanting to try a new knife pattern to give this one a try. You will be very glad you did!
JJ, The seahorse cleaned a few fish but I had around 30 to clean so I switched to a knife more suited for the job. The fish I cleaned with it came out just fine.
Cool group! Whittlers are for some the holy grail of slipjoint collecting. For me as a maker I love the challenge of making one. Here is my rendition of a Case #83 pattern in my dyed and jigged bone.
Thanks Mr. Ken Erickson ! ...thanks to you, I now have to replace my keyboard & monitor from all of the excessive drool to the very sweeeet lookin' Whittler pic you have posted here sir !!! ; )
Thanks for the kind comments guys! I have not done a seahorse for a while. My first whittler was one, not sure if I can dig up a photo or not. I use a lot of ATS-34, CPM154cm and D2 on whittlers. Here is a a picture of a lockback whittler done in ivory. This is similar to the Case/Bose but with wharncliffe master instead of a clip.
Someone in this group that is knowledgable in the whittler pattern could list all the different whittler patterns might get some fire going in this group.
Ivan, anyone that knows of some of the patterns can list them. I recently learned of the Ballroom Whittler. A favorite of mine that is seldom seen is the Cotton Sampler Whittler.
The only problem with this is that a whittler needs to only have two major distinctions, 1 - the main blade is at opposite ends with the secondary blades, and 2 - the main blade falls in between the secondaries when closed.
The big task is to try to find all different blade variations, frame styles and backspring configurations.
Do any of you own a "Courthouse Whittler?" And if you do, how do you like it for whittlin'? I've only seen pictures of them but for some reason feel the need to own one. I would love to hear some thoughts about them. Anyone?
Ron, I don't have one, but I like the blade configureation on them. Any whittler that has a wharnie, coping and pin should be good to whittle with. Can't speak to the troubles that Ivars has though. I'm sure tha GE could and would correct a problem...
I've, read on other forums, where the Courthouse is a favorite user.
Me, I'm still waiting on the iKC Geppetto, which I plan on using.
Thanks! I really appreciate your comment. I'm just a novice when it comes to carving or whittling and had never heard of a Flexcut Whittlin' Jack before. I just Googled it. Looks interesting, but like J.J. mentioned in his comment, I have also heard some very positive remarks about the Courthouse Whittlers.
About the only whittler I have any actual experience with is my Case Seahorse, and I really enjoy working with it. I suspect that any decent steel that has been sharpened to a point will cut some wood. My concern, and I think what prompted my initial question, is how does a Courthouse Whittler feel in your hand? I 'spose I'll just have to buy one and find out for myself?
I've read some of those same comments about the Courthouse being a favorite user. Like I just commented to Ivars, I think my primary concern is how it feels in your hand? A Seahorse feels very natural and very comfortable in my hand. A Courthouse is an entirely different physical configuration. I believe that's what prompted my question. It just looks like it might not be as comfortable as the Seahorse? I think that's what I'm trying to find out.
Perfect sense, Ron. I (as most everyone knows) love using my seahorse.
I just got Josh's Traveling Maverick today. It's based on the same congress frame. Haven't got to use it yet but the back is lacking the "Hump" that's inherent on a seahorse. It's not uncomfortable in hand though. I'm really impressed with the handles, as they are nicely rounded.
After having this one in hand, I might have to scrounge some cash for the courthouse version, after the iKC Geppettos come in.
Ivars mentioned 2 other knives, the Flexcut whittlin jack (Ivars has a discussion within the group) and the "Oar" carvers, which are modified knives made by Queen I believe.
There's another option, that you might try, Ron. One of my favorite "Pit Carvers" is one that I modified from a Rough Rider.
Sweet Mother of Gawd! Mister Henry! You can't just dangle the pearl handled slice of Heaven without a story. Is this gonna be my Xmas present this year? I have a birthday coming up next month. Perhaps it's my birthday present, huh?
C'mon, man! You've got some 'splaining to do! Wassup with the Seahorse? You're a Stockman man, so out with the story!
Believe it or not, pearl is a very traditional handle material for Whittlers. I knew several guys back in the "old days" that used to carry and USE peal handled Whittlers!
A story? How about a Whittler handle material story from Bernard Levine?
"Whittler Handle Materials -
Handle material on Whittlers runs the gamut. Wood, often Ebony seems to be standard on Whittlers in the 19th century. Ivory and smooth white bone is also common on 19th century Whittlers. Green Cow Horn was also a popular early handle material. And aluminum was used by a few firms such as Holly. Pearl has always been a favorite handle material for Whittlers in the 19th century. Even very cheap imported turn of the century Whittlers had pearl handles. Pearl also shared the spotlight with Tortoise Shell. Stag was also used, but much less often than pearl. As pearl got more expensive in the 20th century fewer Whittlers were seen with it."
Found this in Main Street Mercantile (45 Main St.), Bradford last weekend. Tag says it's rare, but I don't collect this pattern. They wanted $100. for it.
My first impression is that it is a nice collectible knife and it is in excellent condition from what I can judge by the picture. Rarity is a subjective issue, as the age is not yet antique and the handle material being red bone is the most common among Case XX knives. That said though, and without checking it's book value, a C- note is not at all out of line for a Case XX 6383 knife in this condition. If you needed it to fill the 1976 spot in a collection of 6383's, it would do the job.
Thank you for the information on this knife. As I mentioned to Craig and Charles about the Stag Stockman alongside this knife in the case, if anyone is interested in this knife you can call the store (814) 368-2206. Of course, seeing it live would be problematic if the interested person lives far from Bradford, PA, but as you say, if someone needs to fill a spot in their collection, it might be worth a call/visit.
Howdy John. My carver of choice is the CASE Seahorse whittler. Been known to modify a blade into a Wharncliffe a time or two. Barlow makes a good carver, with the right blades.
Hi jj, do you any special tricks for getting you small blades sharp? I have tried just about everything but am very inconcistant. i just cant get a real sharp edge.
I have always admired wood carving and whittling. Thought about trying it but never did. One reason I haven't started is not knowing where to start. Are there kits to buy with a knife, a few pieces of wood and some directions for a project? I'm thinking of something like they have for leather work.
Can one of the "whittler" knives with 3 blades suffice for carving small things or are other knives needed. The woodbeecarver.com site has some knives with bigger handles and little blades. Fixed blades. I can imagine different blades with different shapes may be needed.
I have started making knife handles in the past year or so and some carving work on some knife handles might be nice.
At the W.R. Case Event every other year (next one in July 2014, they usually have a carving class. I forget who holds it, but he and his son give you a lesson on carving, and naturally they use a Case Whittler on which they "re-profile" one of the blades. You get a block of wood, a Case Whittler, and you watch and carve what he does. You won't be a Black Belt after one session, but you might get the fever. Sign up is included with the Case Event paperwork. I know you live pretty far from Bradford, PA, and you might not want to wait so long, but it is a fun time and you learn something. Start turnin in them glass quart soda bottles for a nickel deposit to save up for the trip.
Hi jack, i started trying to whittle because i had hurt myself pretty bad and needed to do somthing with myself while i recovered. well i like knives and it was affordable. to me whittling is done with the knife you carry with you all the time. i have a blade on my knife i use for whittling and nothing else. i usually carry two small knives and a leatherman but i never use carving knives made just for carving. i think what is more important is that a person enjoys what they are doing whatever knife or tool they use. me i just like the nostalga that goes with using your stockman or trapper or that knife you got for christmas when you were nine years old!
A whittling class would be great. Especially during a trip to a knife company or show. However, I doubt if I'll be making a trip like that any time soon I'm sorry to say.
If I were to get into whittling small things I have already thought about using my Dremel. I haven't seen any mention of Dremels here. Is Dremel a bad word here? Or any carving tool with a motor? I can imagine some may feel that would be an insult to a true "whittler". Any thoughts?
Hahahaha. I'm thinkin the purists hate noise. Plus, maybe it ain't about gettin that duck decoy carved and painted as much as it is about the journey of cuttin away the parts that ain't duck.
Howard is right, it's more about the journey than the finished product. When you introduce a power tool, you're still woodcrafting but you're no longer whittling. I would suggest starting with a small piece of soft, stable and dry wood. It should be slightly longer than the width of your palm, to give you enough to hold comfortably while you work. Basswood is perfect, and it's cheap and readily available in craft and hobby stores. Picking up a piece of a branch or a stick off the wood pile seems like a great way to go, but I usually find good pieces to be elusive due to knots, splits and other defects.
Hi everybody. have you whittled anything these days or bought a new whittling knife. i just got a rr whittler. great knife for the price. i like the backspring design. john
Hi jj, i like the seahorse too because of the blades. the little bit of whittling i have done recently has been with a sak tinker. its the only knife i can get sharp!
J.J. Smith III
A-ha!
Another convert.
Apr 7, 2011
In Memoriam
Robert Burris
Apr 7, 2011
In Memoriam
Robert Burris
Here's a picture of my new little friend. I'm going camping this weekend with my granddaughters and I'll be putting it to the test. I'll let you guys know how it fairs.
Apr 7, 2011
J.J. Smith III
Looks like you got a good one there, Robert.
Well done.
Apr 7, 2011
In Memoriam
Robert Burris
I was asked to write a review for a seahorse whittler so I'll give it my best try. I have never owned a seahorse whittler or any wharncliffe blade in my life. I always bought blades relating to outdoor activities.
The case seahorse whittler that I purchased came with stag scales, not the quality of the 60s and 70s, but still very nice stag. The knife came with razor sharp blades, they're thin and adapted to precision cutting.
The knife arrived just in time for a planned camping and fishing trip with my two grandaughters, alot of my good friends and their children. So I figured I'd give this new knife a try on this trip.
On a camping trip like this, there is need for a small pocket knife; opening packages, food preparation, cutting fish lines and so forth. The knife passed all the tests and everyone that saw it fell in love with it.
It's only drawback was when it was time to clean fish. It's not very well suited for this task. I cleaned a few with it so it will get you out a bind if it's the only knife you have with you.
I make walking staffs for fun and as gifts for friends and family. I'm starting to make more and may start selling them and I thought it would be a good idea to carve something into them, like a face or different designs and patterns. It has worked great so far. It carves like a dream. I would encourage anyone wanting to try a new knife pattern to give this one a try. You will be very glad you did!
Apr 16, 2011
J.J. Smith III
I take it, then, that it gets a big thumbs up?
Never thought about cleaning fish with one though, but I'll bet it'll do you a great job on the walking sticks.
If you get around to carving some canes, give me a holler...
Apr 17, 2011
J.J. Smith III
Apr 17, 2011
In Memoriam
Robert Burris
Apr 17, 2011
KnifeMaker
Ken Erickson
Cool group! Whittlers are for some the holy grail of slipjoint collecting. For me as a maker I love the challenge of making one. Here is my rendition of a Case #83 pattern in my dyed and jigged bone.
Apr 28, 2011
Allen Goodman
Thanks Mr. Ken Erickson ! ...thanks to you, I now have to replace my keyboard & monitor from all of the excessive drool to the very sweeeet lookin' Whittler pic you have posted here sir !!! ; )
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Apr 28, 2011
J.J. Smith III
Apr 28, 2011
In Memoriam
Robert Burris
Apr 29, 2011
KnifeMaker
Ken Erickson
Thanks for the kind comments guys! I have not done a seahorse for a while. My first whittler was one, not sure if I can dig up a photo or not. I use a lot of ATS-34, CPM154cm and D2 on whittlers. Here is a a picture of a lockback whittler done in ivory. This is similar to the Case/Bose but with wharncliffe master instead of a clip.
Apr 29, 2011
KnifeMaker
Ken Erickson
And here is a matching pair of whittlers, one in ivory and one in bone. These are like the Case #80 pattern.
Apr 29, 2011
J.J. Smith III
Bout missed this one. Locking Wharnie. Great work, Ken.
May 5, 2011
Jan Carter
Ken,
I do love your whittlers and this is no exception. Great Work
Oct 11, 2011
In Memoriam
Robert Burris
Someone in this group that is knowledgable in the whittler pattern could list all the different whittler patterns might get some fire going in this group.
Nov 27, 2011
In Memoriam
Robert Burris
Ivan, anyone that knows of some of the patterns can list them. I recently learned of the Ballroom Whittler. A favorite of mine that is seldom seen is the Cotton Sampler Whittler.
Dec 7, 2011
J.J. Smith III
The only problem with this is that a whittler needs to only have two major distinctions, 1 - the main blade is at opposite ends with the secondary blades, and 2 - the main blade falls in between the secondaries when closed.
The big task is to try to find all different blade variations, frame styles and backspring configurations.
Dec 7, 2011
In Memoriam
Robert Burris
I mean those that have whittler as part of their name.
Dec 7, 2011
In Memoriam
Robert Burris
The more whittler patterns I see, the more I want to collect them.
Dec 7, 2011
In Memoriam
Robert Burris
I just missed a great Fight'n Rooster whittler on Ebay...so sad.
Dec 11, 2011
Ron Cooper
Do any of you own a "Courthouse Whittler?" And if you do, how do you like it for whittlin'? I've only seen pictures of them but for some reason feel the need to own one. I would love to hear some thoughts about them. Anyone?
Oct 23, 2012
J.J. Smith III
Ron, I don't have one, but I like the blade configureation on them. Any whittler that has a wharnie, coping and pin should be good to whittle with. Can't speak to the troubles that Ivars has though. I'm sure tha GE could and would correct a problem...
I've, read on other forums, where the Courthouse is a favorite user.
Me, I'm still waiting on the iKC Geppetto, which I plan on using.
Oct 23, 2012
Ron Cooper
Ivars,
Thanks! I really appreciate your comment. I'm just a novice when it comes to carving or whittling and had never heard of a Flexcut Whittlin' Jack before. I just Googled it. Looks interesting, but like J.J. mentioned in his comment, I have also heard some very positive remarks about the Courthouse Whittlers.
About the only whittler I have any actual experience with is my Case Seahorse, and I really enjoy working with it. I suspect that any decent steel that has been sharpened to a point will cut some wood. My concern, and I think what prompted my initial question, is how does a Courthouse Whittler feel in your hand? I 'spose I'll just have to buy one and find out for myself?
Oct 23, 2012
Ron Cooper
J.J.,
I've read some of those same comments about the Courthouse being a favorite user. Like I just commented to Ivars, I think my primary concern is how it feels in your hand? A Seahorse feels very natural and very comfortable in my hand. A Courthouse is an entirely different physical configuration. I believe that's what prompted my question. It just looks like it might not be as comfortable as the Seahorse? I think that's what I'm trying to find out.
Am I making any sense here?
Oct 23, 2012
J.J. Smith III
Perfect sense, Ron. I (as most everyone knows) love using my seahorse.
I just got Josh's Traveling Maverick today. It's based on the same congress frame. Haven't got to use it yet but the back is lacking the "Hump" that's inherent on a seahorse. It's not uncomfortable in hand though. I'm really impressed with the handles, as they are nicely rounded.
After having this one in hand, I might have to scrounge some cash for the courthouse version, after the iKC Geppettos come in.
Ivars mentioned 2 other knives, the Flexcut whittlin jack (Ivars has a discussion within the group) and the "Oar" carvers, which are modified knives made by Queen I believe.
There's another option, that you might try, Ron. One of my favorite "Pit Carvers" is one that I modified from a Rough Rider.
Oct 23, 2012
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Craig Henry
Jun 2, 2013
Ron Cooper
Sweet Mother of Gawd! Mister Henry! You can't just dangle the pearl handled slice of Heaven without a story. Is this gonna be my Xmas present this year? I have a birthday coming up next month. Perhaps it's my birthday present, huh?
C'mon, man! You've got some 'splaining to do! Wassup with the Seahorse? You're a Stockman man, so out with the story!
Jun 2, 2013
J.J. Smith III
Jun 2, 2013
Paul Work
I need a Seahorse, but not one that fancy.
Jun 2, 2013
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Craig Henry
Believe it or not, pearl is a very traditional handle material for Whittlers. I knew several guys back in the "old days" that used to carry and USE peal handled Whittlers!
A story? How about a Whittler handle material story from Bernard Levine?
"Whittler Handle Materials -
Handle material on Whittlers runs the gamut. Wood, often Ebony seems to be standard on Whittlers in the 19th century. Ivory and smooth white bone is also common on 19th century Whittlers. Green Cow Horn was also a popular early handle material. And aluminum was used by a few firms such as Holly. Pearl has always been a favorite handle material for Whittlers in the 19th century. Even very cheap imported turn of the century Whittlers had pearl handles. Pearl also shared the spotlight with Tortoise Shell. Stag was also used, but much less often than pearl. As pearl got more expensive in the 20th century fewer Whittlers were seen with it."
Jun 2, 2013
Howard P Reynolds
Found this in Main Street Mercantile (45 Main St.), Bradford last weekend. Tag says it's rare, but I don't collect this pattern. They wanted $100. for it.
Jul 4, 2013
Pat Kennedy
Jul 4, 2013
Howard P Reynolds
Pat,
Thank you for the information on this knife. As I mentioned to Craig and Charles about the Stag Stockman alongside this knife in the case, if anyone is interested in this knife you can call the store (814) 368-2206. Of course, seeing it live would be problematic if the interested person lives far from Bradford, PA, but as you say, if someone needs to fill a spot in their collection, it might be worth a call/visit.
Jul 5, 2013
john garcia
Jul 6, 2013
john garcia
Jul 6, 2013
john garcia
Jul 7, 2013
J.J. Smith III
Howdy John. My carver of choice is the CASE Seahorse whittler. Been known to modify a blade into a Wharncliffe a time or two. Barlow makes a good carver, with the right blades.
Jul 7, 2013
john garcia
Jul 7, 2013
Jack Haskins, Jr.
I have always admired wood carving and whittling. Thought about trying it but never did. One reason I haven't started is not knowing where to start. Are there kits to buy with a knife, a few pieces of wood and some directions for a project? I'm thinking of something like they have for leather work.
Can one of the "whittler" knives with 3 blades suffice for carving small things or are other knives needed. The woodbeecarver.com site has some knives with bigger handles and little blades. Fixed blades. I can imagine different blades with different shapes may be needed.
I have started making knife handles in the past year or so and some carving work on some knife handles might be nice.
Jul 25, 2013
Howard P Reynolds
Jack,
At the W.R. Case Event every other year (next one in July 2014, they usually have a carving class. I forget who holds it, but he and his son give you a lesson on carving, and naturally they use a Case Whittler on which they "re-profile" one of the blades. You get a block of wood, a Case Whittler, and you watch and carve what he does. You won't be a Black Belt after one session, but you might get the fever. Sign up is included with the Case Event paperwork. I know you live pretty far from Bradford, PA, and you might not want to wait so long, but it is a fun time and you learn something. Start turnin in them glass quart soda bottles for a nickel deposit to save up for the trip.
Jul 25, 2013
john garcia
Jul 25, 2013
Jack Haskins, Jr.
A whittling class would be great. Especially during a trip to a knife company or show. However, I doubt if I'll be making a trip like that any time soon I'm sorry to say.
If I were to get into whittling small things I have already thought about using my Dremel. I haven't seen any mention of Dremels here. Is Dremel a bad word here? Or any carving tool with a motor? I can imagine some may feel that would be an insult to a true "whittler". Any thoughts?
Jul 26, 2013
Howard P Reynolds
Hahahaha. I'm thinkin the purists hate noise. Plus, maybe it ain't about gettin that duck decoy carved and painted as much as it is about the journey of cuttin away the parts that ain't duck.
Jul 26, 2013
Pat Kennedy
Jul 26, 2013
john garcia
Aug 22, 2013
J.J. Smith III
Somehow I missed your message about sharpening, John.
I use the diamond sharpening cards in medium, fine and extra fine, followed by a stroping on the back of an old belt. (I'm cheap).
My current pocket carry is a Rough Rider stag whittler. I'm partial to the wedge-back design too.
Been hoping that Rough Rider would make a wharncliffe whittler along the lines of the seahorse, but no luck yet.
Aug 23, 2013
john garcia
Aug 23, 2013
john garcia
Aug 23, 2013