Whittling / Carving knives

For those who like to carv/whittle something. We will talk about all knife types for whittling, about types of wood and types of whittling.

If you just collect a Whittler knives, you are also invited!

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  • In Memoriam

    Robert Burris

    The more whittler patterns I see, the more I want to collect them.


  • In Memoriam

    Robert Burris

    I just missed a great Fight'n Rooster whittler on Ebay...so sad.

  • Ron Cooper

    Do any of you own a "Courthouse Whittler?" And if you do, how do you like it for whittlin'? I've only seen pictures of them but for some reason feel the need to own one. I would love to hear some thoughts about them. Anyone?

  • J.J. Smith III

    Ron,  I don't have one, but I like the blade configureation on them.  Any whittler that has a wharnie, coping and pin should be good to whittle with.  Can't speak to the troubles that Ivars has though.  I'm sure tha GE could and would correct a problem...

    I've, read on other forums, where the Courthouse is a favorite user.

     

    Me, I'm still waiting on the iKC Geppetto, which I plan on using.

  • Ron Cooper

    Ivars,

    Thanks! I really appreciate your comment. I'm just a novice when it comes to carving or whittling and had never heard of a Flexcut Whittlin' Jack before. I just Googled it. Looks interesting, but like J.J. mentioned in his comment, I have also heard some very positive remarks about the Courthouse Whittlers.

    About the only whittler I have any actual experience with is my Case Seahorse, and I really enjoy working with it. I suspect that any decent steel that has been sharpened to a point will cut some wood. My concern, and I think what prompted my initial question, is how does a Courthouse Whittler feel in your hand? I 'spose I'll just have to buy one and find out for myself?

  • Ron Cooper

    J.J.,

    I've read some of those same comments about the Courthouse being a favorite user. Like I just commented to Ivars, I think my primary concern is how it feels in your hand? A Seahorse feels very natural and very comfortable in my hand. A Courthouse is an entirely different physical configuration. I believe that's what prompted my question. It just looks like it might not be as comfortable as the Seahorse? I think that's what I'm trying to find out.

    Am I making any sense here?

  • J.J. Smith III

    Perfect sense, Ron.  I (as most everyone knows) love using my seahorse. 

    I just got Josh's Traveling Maverick today.  It's based on the same congress frame.  Haven't got to use it yet but the back is lacking the "Hump" that's inherent on a seahorse.  It's not uncomfortable in hand though.  I'm really impressed with the handles, as they are nicely rounded.

    After having this one in hand, I might have to scrounge some cash for the courthouse version, after the iKC Geppettos come in.

     

    Ivars mentioned 2 other knives, the Flexcut whittlin jack (Ivars has a discussion within the group) and the "Oar" carvers, which are modified knives made by Queen I believe. 

    There's another option, that you might try, Ron.  One of my favorite "Pit Carvers" is one that I modified from a Rough Rider.


  • Featured

    Craig Henry

  • Ron Cooper

    Sweet Mother of Gawd! Mister Henry! You can't just dangle the pearl handled slice of Heaven without a story. Is this gonna be my Xmas present this year? I have a birthday coming up next month. Perhaps it's my birthday present, huh?

    C'mon, man! You've got some 'splaining to do! Wassup with the Seahorse? You're a Stockman man, so out with the story!

  • J.J. Smith III

    nice lookin seahorse, craig.
  • Paul Work

    I need  a Seahorse, but not one that fancy.


  • Featured

    Craig Henry

    Believe it or not, pearl is a very traditional handle material for Whittlers. I knew several guys back in the "old days" that used to carry and USE peal handled Whittlers!

    A story? How about a Whittler handle material story from Bernard Levine?

    "Whittler Handle Materials - 

    Handle material on Whittlers runs the gamut. Wood, often Ebony seems to be standard on Whittlers in the 19th century. Ivory and smooth white bone is also common on 19th century Whittlers. Green Cow Horn was also a popular early handle material. And aluminum was used by a few firms such as Holly. Pearl has always been a favorite handle material for Whittlers in the 19th century. Even very cheap imported turn of the century Whittlers had pearl handles. Pearl also shared the spotlight with Tortoise Shell. Stag was also used, but much less often than pearl. As pearl got more expensive in the 20th century fewer Whittlers were seen with it."

  • Howard P Reynolds

    Found this in Main Street Mercantile (45 Main St.), Bradford last weekend.  Tag says it's rare, but I don't collect this pattern.  They wanted $100. for it.

  • Pat Kennedy

    My first impression is that it is a nice collectible knife and it is in excellent condition from what I can judge by the picture. Rarity is a subjective issue, as the age is not yet antique and the handle material being red bone is the most common among Case XX knives. That said though, and without checking it's book value, a C- note is not at all out of line for a Case XX 6383 knife in this condition. If you needed it to fill the 1976 spot in a collection of 6383's, it would do the job.
  • Howard P Reynolds

    Pat,

    Thank you for the information on this knife.  As I mentioned to Craig and Charles about the Stag Stockman alongside this knife in the case, if anyone is interested in this knife you can call the store (814) 368-2206.  Of course, seeing it live would be problematic if the interested person lives far from Bradford, PA, but as you say, if someone needs to fill a spot in their collection, it might be worth a call/visit.

  • john garcia

    Hello every one. my first post here got some e mails welcoming me. thank you
  • john garcia

    Hello every one. my first post here got some e mails welcoming me. thank you
  • john garcia

    Hi to everyone here. hope this is posted in the right location. do any of you use a stockman or any traditional patterns for whittling?
  • J.J. Smith III

    Howdy John.  My carver of choice is the CASE Seahorse whittler.  Been known to modify a blade into a Wharncliffe a time or two.  Barlow makes a good carver, with the right blades.

  • john garcia

    Hi jj, do you any special tricks for getting you small blades sharp? I have tried just about everything but am very inconcistant. i just cant get a real sharp edge.
  • Jack Haskins, Jr.

    I have always admired wood carving and whittling.  Thought about trying it but never did.  One reason I haven't started is not knowing where to start.  Are there kits to  buy with a knife, a few pieces of wood and some directions for a project?  I'm thinking of something like they have for leather work.

    Can one of the "whittler" knives with 3 blades suffice for carving small things or are other knives needed.  The woodbeecarver.com site has some knives with bigger handles and little blades.  Fixed blades. I can imagine different blades with  different shapes may be needed.

    I have started making knife handles in the past year or so and some carving work on some knife handles might be nice.

  • Howard P Reynolds

    Jack,

    At the W.R. Case Event every other year (next one in July 2014, they usually have a carving class.  I forget who holds it, but he and his son give you a lesson on carving, and naturally they use a Case Whittler on which they "re-profile" one of the blades.  You get a block of wood, a Case Whittler, and you watch and carve what he does.  You won't be a Black Belt after one session, but you might get the fever.  Sign up is included with the Case Event paperwork.  I know you live pretty far from Bradford, PA, and you might not want to wait so long, but it is a fun time and you learn something.  Start turnin in them glass quart soda bottles for a nickel deposit to save up for the trip.

  • john garcia

    Hi jack, i started trying to whittle because i had hurt myself pretty bad and needed to do somthing with myself while i recovered. well i like knives and it was affordable. to me whittling is done with the knife you carry with you all the time. i have a blade on my knife i use for whittling and nothing else. i usually carry two small knives and a leatherman but i never use carving knives made just for carving. i think what is more important is that a person enjoys what they are doing whatever knife or tool they use. me i just like the nostalga that goes with using your stockman or trapper or that knife you got for christmas when you were nine years old!
  • Jack Haskins, Jr.

    A whittling class would be great.  Especially during a trip to a knife company or show.  However, I doubt if I'll be making a trip like that any time soon I'm sorry to say.

    If I were to get into whittling small things I have already thought about using my Dremel.  I haven't seen any mention of Dremels here.  Is Dremel a bad word here?  Or any carving tool with a motor?  I can imagine some may feel that would be an insult to a true "whittler".  Any thoughts?

  • Howard P Reynolds

    Hahahaha.  I'm thinkin the purists hate noise.  Plus, maybe it ain't about gettin that duck decoy carved and painted as much as it is about the journey of cuttin away the parts that ain't duck. 

  • Pat Kennedy

    Howard is right, it's more about the journey than the finished product. When you introduce a power tool, you're still woodcrafting but you're no longer whittling. I would suggest starting with a small piece of soft, stable and dry wood. It should be slightly longer than the width of your palm, to give you enough to hold comfortably while you work. Basswood is perfect, and it's cheap and readily available in craft and hobby stores. Picking up a piece of a branch or a stick off the wood pile seems like a great way to go, but I usually find good pieces to be elusive due to knots, splits and other defects.
  • john garcia

    Hi everybody. have you whittled anything these days or bought a new whittling knife. i just got a rr whittler. great knife for the price. i like the backspring design. john
  • J.J. Smith III

    Somehow I missed your message about sharpening, John.

    I use the diamond sharpening cards in medium, fine and extra fine, followed by a stroping on the back of an old belt.  (I'm cheap). 

    My current pocket carry is a Rough Rider stag whittler.  I'm partial to the wedge-back design too.  

    Been hoping that Rough Rider would make a wharncliffe whittler along the lines of the seahorse, but no luck yet.

  • john garcia

    Hi jj, i like the seahorse too because of the blades. the little bit of whittling i have done recently has been with a sak tinker. its the only knife i can get sharp!
  • john garcia

    Hi ivars, did you ever get yourself a case seahorse? Might be able to help you if you have not
  • john garcia

    Ivars can we speak by phone? My internet acess is only withmy phone. my e mail is farmer85j@outlook.com

  • KnifeMaker

    Jeff Keeler

    Picked up this Camillus BSA Boy Scout Whittler off of ebay. It has some wear but actually knife is in pretty good shape. Great snap and tightness on the blades. Wondering if anyone might now how old this knife would be?IMG_1036.JPG

  • Pat Kennedy

    I've been a whittler and pocket knife enthusiast for a long time, and I'll generally whittle with whatever knife I have in my pocket at the time. It probably depends more on the stick I pick up than the knife in my pocket, truth be told. But I became a collector of Whittler frame knives when I inherited my grandfather's pocket knife and learned that it was a Whittler pattern knife, a Case XX 6380, dated 1949-1964. It's the one on the top left of the display case in the photo. Since then I have acquired many of this special pattern, but that one is probably still the most valuable, and definitely the most prized.

  • J.J. Smith III

    Love the display, Pat.  See you have room for a Seahorse in there too.

  • Ron Cooper

    Pat, I agree with J.J. -- That is a great display! I'm curious about those cards that are apparently used to catalog your knives. First of all, I love that idea! Second, where did you get those cards and would it be possible to get a close up shot so I could see what is actually on one of them? Nice collection of Whittlers, btw!

  • Howard P Reynolds

    Very nice whittler display, Pat.

  • Brian Martin

    Some of my Whittlers

     

  • Brian Martin

    Thanks I was getting behind in posting pics!!

  • Ron Cooper

    Nice collection of Whittlers, Brian! I also love your photographic layout. Nicely done all the way around! Kudos and cheers, my friend!

  • Brian Martin

    Thanks Ron

     

  • john garcia

    Very nice i did not know boker made so many whittlers
  • Pat Kennedy

    Some great whittlers there, and the backdrop adds lots of visual interest to the photos. Nicely done.
  • Howard P Reynolds

    I don't own any Whittlers, but seeing yours, Brian, makes me want one or two.

  • Brian Martin

    They fit in the hand nice Howard and don't feel heavy in the pocket make nice EDC.  Thanks Pat I am trying to make better pics, working on better lighting is my next goal.

  • Howard P Reynolds

    Hahahaha.  Steve, that is something (walking stick carving) I can't do with my big Busse knife - totem pole maybe, but not fine work.  Great talent, and I saw on "Antiques Roadshow" that a couple old ones, from nobody famous, brought some big bucks.

  • Howard P Reynolds

    Well, that does it, Steve.  I have to get a whittler.  What make/kind do I need?  I bought a "Carvin Jack" just so I had something, but reading this blog it seems that REAL carvers don't much like the "Carvin Jack".  So, Seahorse Whittlers look good, but do they feel better in the hand than a straight Whittler?  As you know, I am not much for 1095, even though that is what the "Carvin Jack" is.  D2 sounds like a good option, but are there any "super steel" (154 CPM, Aus-10, S30V,etc.) carvers out there?

  • J.J. Smith III

    I'm a big fan of the Seahorse, Howard.
    If you can find one in "pocket worn" you'll love it. You can always smooth out the edges of the scales to your liking on a regular one.
  • Howard P Reynolds

    Thanks, J.J.,  Good point about "pocket worn", that is, might want smooth bone or wood for the scales/handles for comfort.

    I took a look around the Internet this afternoon and a sowbelly might feel pretty good, but they have 4 and sometimes 5 blades which makes for a little fatter knife, and I don't have big hands.

  • Howard P Reynolds

    Ivars,

    I looked at Oar carvers today, too.  They look pretty good, and as you say, Queen makes them.  And a Canoe is my favorite knife pattern in folders.  Also, I think you are correct about 1095 or high carbon steel being easy to work with and sharpen.  My problem with it is that most of my life I lived without central heating/cooling, and rust loves hot and humid weather.  I live in a controlled environment now, but it's hard to forget all the pitting I experienced with carbon bladed knives.  Whatever carver I get will sit around a long time between uses.

  • J.J. Smith III

    Howard,

    In the end, it all depends on what you want to carve.  Dedicated carving knives are nice, but a slip joint whittler let's you carry it anywhere you like.  Ivar's makes excellent observations and recommendations tho I like the downturn on the Seahorses main blade.  He makes his own carving knives, while I like to modify knives to suit my tastes,  

    http://www.iknifecollector.com/photo/albums/knife-modifications.

    Either way, experiment with what's available.