Carbon Steel Group

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This group if dedicated for the knife users/collectors that prefer Carbon Steel to the newer "Super Steels" and Stainless Steels that are used more and more these days-CV, 1095, or any other.

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Halicon

I'll be looking forward to it Matthew, your craftmanship is superb.

Apr 22, 2011
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Robert Burris

Matt, you post any and all the pictures you want. I would be glad for some of these guys to see some more hammer forged carbon steel knives. They may learn to love them as much as I do.

Apr 22, 2011
Robert G. Mitchell

Matthew, thanks for the jab, it's all good. Didn't mean to be a butthead, just trying to feel my way around. Let's see what you doing!

Apr 22, 2011
Halicon

Jab or job? Someone setting up for a haymaker? Get along now everyone ;)

Apr 23, 2011
Matthew Lesniewski

Hi All...Thank you..No problem Halicon.. I will post some pics up here soon..gotta pick some out..Thanks again..Matt

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Apr 23, 2011
Matthew Lesniewski

ok guys I rounded up some pics..

Thanks for looking

Matt

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Apr 25, 2011
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Robert Burris

Thanks Matt, those are great.

Apr 25, 2011
Matthew Lesniewski

Thanks Rob..Matt

Apr 27, 2011
Jean-François

Looking at such beauties is a great pleasure! Thank YOU, Matt.

May 1, 2011
Jean-François

My cat's collection...

Original Mercator (Linder) Germany

VALOR Japan

IL GATTO Italy (Hi, Luca!)

May 1, 2011
Matthew Lesniewski

Thank you Jean...

Matt

May 1, 2011
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Robert Burris

Jean, my dogs are gonna be jealous.

May 2, 2011
Jan Carter

Jean-Francois,

Heck my dog is jealous and so am I. Beauties!!

May 3, 2011
Jan Carter

So anyone else have Pics?

May 15, 2011
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Robert Burris

I thought I would let those that are unfamiliar with carbon steel knives see that you don't have to let them "turn" or develop a patina, that if you wish, you can keep them shiny as any stainless steel. The two knives in the picture are several years old, I use them five days a week, five months out the year, to clean a lot of big and small game animals and with a little extra trouble, I keep them shiny as a new nickle. I use a metal polish once in a while after heavy use and a metal protectant frequently and I have no trouble keeping them in this condition. If anyone wants to know the brands I use, just let me know.

Jun 1, 2011
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Robert Burris

Hey, guys and gals, please post some of them Carbon Steel Knives.

Jun 5, 2011
Jan Carter

so tell me ya'll. What was your fist carbom steel and what made you just love it??

Jun 9, 2011
Jan Carter

The last time I used my fav Carbon steel was to open a special package on Sunday. When is the last time you used yours?

Jun 14, 2011
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Robert Burris

My first love in carbon steel was two knives. The first was an old Green River hunter and the second was a canoe with dark red jigged bone handles and the large blade was a spear point and the small one was a clip point. I have no idea what brand it was because of the patina and my memory. I loved those two knives. The game and fish that they went through, my, my, such old memories.

Jun 15, 2011
Jan Carter

Don....Stephen...What were your first "loves" and why?

Jun 17, 2011
Jan Carter

Wow, awfully quiet in here lately

Jun 22, 2011
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Robert Burris

I'd like to see who has the knife with the best patina. If you guys and gals have some carbon steel knives with a great patina, don't be shy, post em, let us see a picture.

Jun 29, 2011
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Robert Burris

Anybody know the name of the carbon steel that Puma used back in the 1960's or 70's?

Jul 6, 2011
Jan Carter

Well Robert I found a chart but we will have to get Halicon or someone to tell me what it means

http://www.pumaknifeman.com/PumaSteel.html

Jul 7, 2011
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Robert Burris

Thanks Miss Jan but thats the stainless steels that Puma uses. I want to know what carbon steel they used on their knives back in the 1970's.

Jul 28, 2011
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Robert Burris

I have a question for our Carbon Steel Group members. We need to get alot more partiscipation in this group. If you carbon steel guys and gals are afraid of the Stainless groups, please let me know. My question is "What kind of steel was James Bowie's knife, stainless or Carbon?

Aug 5, 2011
Jan Carter

So what do you all think? Are we afraid of the stainless groups?

Aug 7, 2011
lg&m

Anza,made from a old file

Aug 21, 2011
Jan Carter

Nice LG&M. Some of those from old files make awsome knives

Aug 26, 2011
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Robert Burris

Good job LG&M, I may try my luck at making one out of an old file one day.

Aug 30, 2011
lg&m

I did not mean to deceive anyone. I did not make the knife. http://www.anzaknives.com/

Aug 30, 2011
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Robert Burris

That's OK, LG&M, I would still like to try make one.

Aug 30, 2011
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Robert Burris

I read that old files are made of W1 and W2 steel. Thats the steel that alot of Japanesse forged knives are made of, I think. Any of you guys know more about it?

Sep 16, 2011
Rob Gregg

I'd always heard that too Robert. Although i've always thought of W1 as being an American steel, so i'm not sure about their use in Japanese knives.

Sep 16, 2011
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Robert Burris

I see alot of the manufacturers are using 1095 in their survival, military and tactical knives. They have put a powder coat on them and people are rediscovering carbon steel knives. They are so afraid of rust. Wonder would they let their gun rust?

Oct 13, 2011
Matthew Lesniewski

Bob..I hear ya. real simple rules apply to gun's and carbon steel. A little oil now and then and you are good to go. A no nonsence steel such as 1095. If more of those that have been using stainless knives for a good stretch now re-discover a good high carbon steel blade and its edge holding ability may fall in love with it. Especially when it comes to re-sharpening the blade when needed. Rust is only a factor in my opinion if a blade is neglected or not cared for.

Matt

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Oct 14, 2011
Jan Carter

I've never had an interest in a powder coat. For just that reason, with use it will not last. Had not thought about the fact that it would require reheating an already treated knife, that does not do anything for me either. I do love to see more knives coming out in 1095 though.. it my favorite steel

Oct 14, 2011
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Robert Burris

Matt, you're right, I think a person thats gonna let his knife rust is gonna let his gun rust. There may be no hope for this type of green horn. An outdoorsman that lets either rust is gonna have other troubles with his gear, not just his gun and knife.

Oct 19, 2011
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Robert Burris

Question of the month..What was Stainless steel invented for?

Oct 24, 2011
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Robert Burris

Well, what I was getting at was I read that it main objective was to make plumbing fixtures and forks and spoons.

Oct 25, 2011
Jan Carter

The plumbing thing makes perfect sense to me Robert

Nov 7, 2011
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Robert Burris

Has anyone noticed that almost all of the great folding knife companies use carbon in their knives?

Dec 6, 2011
Halicon

Robert, that's because of too many inferior "stainless" steels. The essence of a knife is lost when we use steel that can't oxidize. Stainless -should- not be used on a knife! (I know this sounds outrageous but ask any woodworker and he will agree)

The only "stain resistant" alloys I use is Blue steel #1 and #2. Tougou-reigou. Tougou-kou, Tougou-inukubi. There are a few more to this list but they are extinct and only exist in old lots in the homes of a handful of smiths.

The reason I use those steels isn't because they can withstand the elements better than a pure carbon steel, it is because the serrations on the edge can take more punishments, make more cuts and handle tougher tasks without blunting as fast.

On the other hand they are harder to sharpen, sticks to the stone instead of the dry feeling a carbon steel (which allows one to refine the serrations at the very end of the edge easier).

The edge on those steels get roughly 98% as sharp as a carbon steel and the difference is around 2-3 microns if even that when sharpened properly. Take a stainless steel and try to bring out the edge and you will be stuck at 40-50 microns, a huge edge that will require more force to cut with. In addition the serrations on the edge will tear off and need resharpening pretty much after a handful of cuts.

It would be impossible to work wood with stainless tools unless you have a sharpening pond right next to you.

Jan 8, 2012
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Robert Burris

Thanks Hal, I always like to hear some facts on the subject.

Jan 9, 2012
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Robert Burris

I just got a new carbon steel knife, lets watch it patina together. I'll post some pictures.

Jan 22, 2012
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Robert Burris

Tuna Valley Knives, another great knife company in carbon steel. Anyone have any thoughts on that?

Mar 7, 2012
Lee Saunders

Thank you to the Admin for making sure we don't get too many of those "John Lastingbone , 'promotricker' e-mails!

May 12, 2012
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Robert Burris

I am sorry Lee, I don't understand, I am trying to promote carbon steel knives.

May 12, 2012
Lee Saunders

My note was about an fake email I received via iKnife from a fake name "John Lastingbone".

Didn't have anything to do with you Rob, just happened to hit the server the same time your Tuna post did that's all.

May 12, 2012
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Robert Burris

Hey, Carbon Steel knife fans, I am planning on starting a mini group in Box Full of Knives Group on "Forged Knives". If you like forged knives or want to learn more about them, please come and join us.

May 20, 2012

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