Most all knives are clones anymore - They had a big pissen match on a sling shot forum I visit - one maker was copying another maker - I explained to the guys that there was only so much you can do with a "Y" or a fork - - I know when I was hand making knives I cloned all the old patterns - guess why i'm not rich - tom
I think the Remingtons is somewhat different with it's swedge design but there is little doubt that the Colt and RR Moose are copies of the Remington and the RR and the Colt, both Trademarks of SMKW are clones. I said the same about the RR and Marbles 5 inch toothpicks. Only real difference is the furniture (Scales, bolsters, etc.) and the price tag. Mind you I'm a BIG fan of RR and I would like a few of their knives to be unique to the line.
I haven't really looked at the Blue Moon series closely yet. Just glancing at it, I think I like the color. The Chinese made Remington's, Colt and Rough Rider are all made in the same factory, and as Toby said they are all SMKW trademarks. Well at least the Colt and Rough Rider are. I'm not sure about SMKW having the Remington rights. I think some of the Remington's are SFO's for SMKW. I would like to know for sure about Remington as I collect Remington, especially bullet knives and USA made .
There are two definition of a blue moon. The most common today has a blue moon is the second full moon in the same month. Next one is August 31, 2112.
Or if you go by an older definition it is the fourth full moon of a season (summer, Spring, winter or fall) Going by that defintion, you'll be waiting until August 12, 2013.
Either way, "once in a blue moon" means not very often or rare
I like the moonshiner series better as well, including the blade etch. I might get the the blue moon canoe, but you are correct, a blue moon is full, not crescent. And that etch remind me a lot of SKG DreamWorks pictures.
I didn't know if I would really like the Stroke of Luck series, so I bought the whittler to check it out. I think I will have to get the rest of the series. It really was nicer than I expected. Iv'e been trying to stick mainly with Made in USA lately. Here is a picture.
The etching on the blade reminds me of Fighting Rooster - The cast bolters are what they are - I assume they are cast which i would prefer to have the clean - cast bolsters look like - well cast bosters -
I currently own two Stroke of Luck knives, the 5 inch toothpick and 3 5/8 standard canoe. Only problem with the Canoe is the green bone is varies in shade from obverse to reverse side. According to the fine folks at SMKW, the bolsters are patterned after some antique British Bolsters in their National Knife museum I'm planning on picking up the whittler despite the lack of a coping blade, the large stockman and maybe the locking canoe.
I like the color of the scales. The casting of the bolsters aside, I appreciate that they have taken a pattern from a knife in the musuem. It is nice when the new incorporates the older knives. Let us see them togeather as the collection grows please
I appreciate that they have taken a pattern from a knife in the musuem.
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I assume thats where most of all the RR patterns come from - I just hope the musuem knife gets put back together & back to the musuem but that might be wishful thinking -
Yeah, I ususlly stick to more traditional looking bone, and I love their tobacco bone. I'm kinda back and forth on these......but, I still might get one. I'm thinking about the small lockback barlow.
That rough rider Barlow is what my son carries and he loves it (forget what handle) Glad it makes you smile, just tell the wife your loving my most recent purchase. Then she will really wonder whats up
Craig, I went on a Rough Rider buying spree and now I have a couple of hundred. Very good knife for the price. These are the better built knives coming from China. I end up buying one every once in a while. I recently bought a couple of sunfish and a Sroke of Luck stockman. Eventually I will get some pictures posted here.
I'll have to check my photo's. I think I have pictures of them in the knife rolls. I have taken pictures of each one also. I will try to get some posted here in a few days.
I loaded 25 pics on my photos to the Rough Rider folder if any one wants to look. I will try to get them all on there eventually. That's a time consuming process when my picture are in such a disarray. I do have them in named folders on my computer. Craig, I have a lot of pics of RR leg knives that belong to my wife. I started collecting on these and Steel warrior. RR are better knives. The fit and finish is better. I thought I was going to buy one of each knife made when I started, It didn't take very long to figure out that was not going to happen in my lifetime. RR are priced where a person can actually buy a set of knives in a particular series. Will they ever be (collectible and go up in value?), only time will decide that. Look at the prices that Parker made knives made in Japan sell for now. When I die, my Grandsons can have them.
I don't have a couple hundred. My collection is in the several dozen range. I've added about 17. Those on facebook have seen the photos on my Facebook page (Knives of the man cave) For anyone else, I've created an album on my page called Rough Riders. I'll add more later.
Toby, I bought these because of the price and the quality is pretty good also. I am loading the pics on my page also. They were the knives I started with and they pushed me into becoming an steel addict.
The Blue Wave Pearl are close to my favorites. They look really good. The Ocean fire pearl even looks better. I only have 3 of those. Those seem to be hard to find. I got the 3 off of ebay for under $5.00 a piece. I think I still have a few more to buy to complete the Blue Ocean pearl series.
Thanks Billy! I might give the Canoe blue and/or red a try. I'm in a Canoe frame of mind lately.
One Rough Rider pearl Canoe I'd like to find is the one that has the thin diagonal spacer through the middle. I can't find a dealer that still has them.
Beautiful "Gunboat" JJ! I need to find more knife money! Maybe I can stop eating.....and who needs clothes.....well, I have to have pants to carry knives.
I think I'll take JJ's idea and combine it with Robert's.....the sporran can serve two functions; loin cloth and knife carrier! And, the belt for it can hold a bunch of knife sheaths! I'm all set.
The sporran makes a lousy loin cloth. And if you're looking for a handy place to tuck a knife when you have no pockets, go traditional and use your hose-tops. And socks are cheaper than pants or a sporran!
I added some more of my RR collection to my Rough Rider photo album. I have been trying to match pictures with my excell lists. It is a daunting task since all my RR are in knife cases and RR doesn't have the model # stamped on very many of their knives. I should have done this when they were still in the box.
KnifeMaker
Tom Hudson
Jun 13, 2011
Tobias Gibson
Jun 13, 2011
KnifeMaker
Tom Hudson
Here one of my Hand-Made - - - - I cloned a Remington 1123 Pattern
Jun 13, 2011
Billy Oneale
Jun 13, 2011
Billy Oneale
Jun 13, 2011
Jan Carter
I like the color of the colt model. I think my son would like this series
Jun 18, 2011
J.J. Smith III
I realize thar RR wanted to use a shield that they already had, but isn't a "Blue Moon" a full moon?
Just sayin...
Jun 28, 2011
Tobias Gibson
There are two definition of a blue moon. The most common today has a blue moon is the second full moon in the same month. Next one is August 31, 2112.
Or if you go by an older definition it is the fourth full moon of a season (summer, Spring, winter or fall) Going by that defintion, you'll be waiting until August 12, 2013.
Either way, "once in a blue moon" means not very often or rare
Jun 29, 2011
J.J. Smith III
Maybe so, but it still referrs to a full moon. I liked the shield better on the "Moonshine" series.
Jul 18, 2011
Tobias Gibson
Jul 18, 2011
J.J. Smith III
Jul 19, 2011
Billy Oneale
Aug 10, 2011
KnifeMaker
Tom Hudson
Aug 10, 2011
KnifeMaker
Tom Hudson
The etching on the blade reminds me of Fighting Rooster - The cast bolters are what they are - I assume they are cast which i would prefer to have the clean - cast bolsters look like - well cast bosters -
Aug 12, 2011
Tobias Gibson
I currently own two Stroke of Luck knives, the 5 inch toothpick and 3 5/8 standard canoe. Only problem with the Canoe is the green bone is varies in shade from obverse to reverse side. According to the fine folks at SMKW, the bolsters are patterned after some antique British Bolsters in their National Knife museum I'm planning on picking up the whittler despite the lack of a coping blade, the large stockman and maybe the locking canoe.
Aug 12, 2011
KnifeMaker
Tom Hudson
Aug 12, 2011
Jan Carter
Tobias,
I like the color of the scales. The casting of the bolsters aside, I appreciate that they have taken a pattern from a knife in the musuem. It is nice when the new incorporates the older knives. Let us see them togeather as the collection grows please
Aug 12, 2011
KnifeMaker
Tom Hudson
I appreciate that they have taken a pattern from a knife in the musuem.
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I assume thats where most of all the RR patterns come from - I just hope the musuem knife gets put back together & back to the musuem but that might be wishful thinking -
Aug 12, 2011
Jan Carter
Aug 21, 2011
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Craig Henry
Aug 22, 2011
Jan Carter
Craig,
That Tabacco bone is really very nice
Aug 22, 2011
stephen tungate
Aug 23, 2011
Jan Carter
Craig,
That rough rider Barlow is what my son carries and he loves it (forget what handle) Glad it makes you smile, just tell the wife your loving my most recent purchase. Then she will really wonder whats up
Aug 23, 2011
Billy Oneale
Aug 23, 2011
In Memoriam
Robert Burris
Aug 24, 2011
Billy Oneale
Aug 24, 2011
J.J. Smith III
Aug 24, 2011
Billy Oneale
Aug 24, 2011
Jan Carter
Wow Craig, the longest we ever went was a few months
It's like a disease. I've been on the wagon for a number of years, but now I've fallen off........HARD!
Aug 25, 2011
Tobias Gibson
Aug 25, 2011
Billy Oneale
Aug 25, 2011
Billy Oneale
Aug 29, 2011
Billy Oneale
Sep 1, 2011
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Craig Henry
Thanks Billy! I might give the Canoe blue and/or red a try. I'm in a Canoe frame of mind lately.
One Rough Rider pearl Canoe I'd like to find is the one that has the thin diagonal spacer through the middle. I can't find a dealer that still has them.
Sep 1, 2011
J.J. Smith III
Folks.
I'm not much of a pearl handle kind of guy, but I just had to get this, when I saw it, on a trip to SMKW.
Sep 1, 2011
stephen tungate
Sep 1, 2011
Billy Oneale
Sep 1, 2011
Billy Oneale
Sep 1, 2011
Billy Oneale
Sep 1, 2011
stephen tungate
Sep 1, 2011
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Craig Henry
Sep 1, 2011
Jan Carter
Sep 1, 2011
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Craig Henry
Sep 1, 2011
J.J. Smith III
Perhaps a good place for a folder would be a sporran?
Sep 6, 2011
In Memoriam
Robert Burris
Sep 6, 2011
stephen tungate
Sep 6, 2011
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Craig Henry
Sep 6, 2011
Tobias Gibson
The sporran makes a lousy loin cloth. And if you're looking for a handy place to tuck a knife when you have no pockets, go traditional and use your hose-tops. And socks are cheaper than pants or a sporran!
Sep 6, 2011
In Memoriam
Robert Burris
Sep 6, 2011
Billy Oneale
Sep 7, 2011