I loaded 25 pics on my photos to the Rough Rider folder if any one wants to look. I will try to get them all on there eventually. That's a time consuming process when my picture are in such a disarray. I do have them in named folders on my computer. Craig, I have a lot of pics of RR leg knives that belong to my wife. I started collecting on these and Steel warrior. RR are better knives. The fit and finish is better. I thought I was going to buy one of each knife made when I started, It didn't take very long to figure out that was not going to happen in my lifetime. RR are priced where a person can actually buy a set of knives in a particular series. Will they ever be (collectible and go up in value?), only time will decide that. Look at the prices that Parker made knives made in Japan sell for now. When I die, my Grandsons can have them.
I don't have a couple hundred. My collection is in the several dozen range. I've added about 17. Those on facebook have seen the photos on my Facebook page (Knives of the man cave) For anyone else, I've created an album on my page called Rough Riders. I'll add more later.
Toby, I bought these because of the price and the quality is pretty good also. I am loading the pics on my page also. They were the knives I started with and they pushed me into becoming an steel addict.
The Blue Wave Pearl are close to my favorites. They look really good. The Ocean fire pearl even looks better. I only have 3 of those. Those seem to be hard to find. I got the 3 off of ebay for under $5.00 a piece. I think I still have a few more to buy to complete the Blue Ocean pearl series.
Thanks Billy! I might give the Canoe blue and/or red a try. I'm in a Canoe frame of mind lately.
One Rough Rider pearl Canoe I'd like to find is the one that has the thin diagonal spacer through the middle. I can't find a dealer that still has them.
Beautiful "Gunboat" JJ! I need to find more knife money! Maybe I can stop eating.....and who needs clothes.....well, I have to have pants to carry knives.
I think I'll take JJ's idea and combine it with Robert's.....the sporran can serve two functions; loin cloth and knife carrier! And, the belt for it can hold a bunch of knife sheaths! I'm all set.
The sporran makes a lousy loin cloth. And if you're looking for a handy place to tuck a knife when you have no pockets, go traditional and use your hose-tops. And socks are cheaper than pants or a sporran!
I added some more of my RR collection to my Rough Rider photo album. I have been trying to match pictures with my excell lists. It is a daunting task since all my RR are in knife cases and RR doesn't have the model # stamped on very many of their knives. I should have done this when they were still in the box.
I agree. It would be nice if they did a model/pattern numbering system kinda like Case, AND stamped them on the knives.
Also, it would be nice to know who, what, when, and where with Rough Rider tang stamps. They may never be collectible like Case with everyone, but with SOME of us they will. Besides, tang stamp info is just something I've gotten used to wanting to know about after all these years.
It is strange that some of the RR have pattern numbers and others do not. I'm assuming this has to do with the fact that some blades are used on different knives. I will need to investigate a little. I'm sure it would ease manufacturing and cost not to put a pattern number on every sowbelly, especially if no other distinguishing marks were being added to the blade. Thus maybe, you'd put the pattern number on the clip blade for the moonshiner or blue but not for the White bone sowbelly and sawcut bone sowbelly. As the knives aren't in front of me, this is all just conjecture right now.
I also have an excel sheet for all my knives and pattern numbers are entered there when I get a new knife. When I first started the sheet, I had to look for pattern numbers. I found it easier to go to SMKW and look the items up than go though my drawer full of empty boxes and match the knife to the box.
We are a knife club that lets everyone enjoy the knife of their choice. You may get as much enjoyment out of a $25 dollar knife as some guy with his $2500 knife. Life too short, get your pleasure from what you like.
The guys at Knives Live TV are real nice and understanding, try right them a letter about the tang stamp dating. I wrote them and everything was solved.
I agree with Robert and Craig. I try to buy as much USA made as I can. It was Rough Riders and Steel warriors that got me started because they were affordable and there were so many different handles and patterns. Some of the steel warriors I have are patterns that you won't see any where else, Just like the Rough Riders. I don't think they will ever be worth as much as my USA made knives,but I started with them and they are a prized part of my collection. If some people don't like them ,then that is their right. I have noticed that a lot of high end tacticals have a China or Taiwan stamp on the blade. I have found that a lot of these perform as good as any of the others. I do believe that a USA citizen should try to buy and help American knife companies by buying USA, but price is a big factor when purchasing knives. I do like a lot of the German brands also. Sorry about the soap box, but if you like knives, then buy what you like that you can afford. I think most people want USA built, but they just can't afford it. A lot of the USA made brands are getting really competitive with the imports. I do wish that Rough Riders had one blade stamped with the model number.
I think Billy pretty well nailed it. I also would like to buy American Made but it is hard for me to compare a Case and Rough Rider side by side and then look at the price tag and not go with the Rough Rider. The F&F of a Case is not really that much better and the quality of the Case Tru-sharp steel may actually be less. Yet the the price is two to five times higher!
As it is I'm left to just collecting the peach seed jigged amber bone Case Knives and if RR produced a similar handle, I would buy it instead.
Will RR be worth more in the future? I think some will go up in value once they are discontinued. Others not so much.
As for Steel Warriors, I've heard lots of good things about them but Tom O'Dell and co. and Cutlery Corner has turned me off to almost anything Frost. Still, A friend gave me several Steel Warriors and I have to say they are very good. As good as Rough Riders? That will be a long argument clouded by personal bias. I will say, I really like the Crocodile Jigged bone Peanut and occasionally look on eBay for other Steel Warriors in that jig pattern.
Y'all need to read Mr. AG Russell's letter in his Late Fall catalog, it kinda puts things into prospective on the China knife industry. I started a little talk on his group here earlier today.
Robert, it would be nice if you could place that letter here sometime. I don't get the A.G. Russell Catalogue because they don't ship it outside of the US. But I'd love to have a read of it.
Guys I absolutley agree. Will RR go up in value? Some will eventually but if you are collecting for the love of the knife that is not always a consideration. If you are not spending a lot of money up front for the knife then its future value is not as much of a consideration as if it were 300.00 up front. I would like to se a pattern number list though, Craig I will ask for one under my facebook and keep checking to see if we get a list or led to where they may be one. I dont know that the guys at SMKW ever dreamed that folks would be saying they are just as happy with their RR as they are with their Case knives but it says alot for the caliber of the collectors here that we were willing to give the knife a chance and be fair in evaluating it.
Thanks Miss Jan, your input helps calm the water. We are all in this for the fun and in a few years we will all probably be laughing about it. I hope so any way.
That is a very good idea , Toby. There must be something somewhere with all the numbers.Robert, I ordered the AG Russell catalog to hopefully read this article. I get a few RR that have some issues, but the majority are well built. I also like the Marbles brand which is a little more expensive than RR , but made in the same factory. The reason I like the Marbles brand is that you will not see most of their handle materials on any thing else, And the build is a very well built knife. A lot of the imports are well built if a person will take the time to really look them over and try them instead of just passing all of the imports off as junk. There is an unbelievable amount of junk knives that are imported. As I have said before, I wish everything could be USA made, but it just isn't going to happen until The Companies can find ways to be competitive with the importers. Queen and Bear and Son are finding ways to do that. You can also find a really good buy on Case knives for under $40.00 also. I have seen some Queen delrin knives sell for around $24.00 and the same can be said for Bear & Son. I will buy what I like, be it a German, Chinese or USA made knife, Preferably German or USA made, but for dollar and quality you can find a better deal than a RR. I also agree with Jan, I don't buy the RR because I think it will become a collector item worth a lot of money. I buy them because I like the way it looks and performs, beside that, if I lose one it will not be as big a loss like it would be for me to lose one of my Queen, GEC or Case knives.
I bought a Imitation Tortoise shell locking Trapper from the round man a week ago. It works really well. May have to carry this one. Locking trappers are good EDC knives. I will post pictures when I get some taken. I only paid $9.99 for this which was a good price.
If you get the ASOL canoe, let me know if the reverse side green bone is noticeablylighter. Mine has very dark green bone on the shield side and very light green bone on the reverse. I saw it that way at an eBay site and didn't think much of it. I ended up buying one direct from Smoky Mountain Knife works and it was as it was shown at the ebay site. My large toothpick has green bone of same shade on both sides
The back side of the Canoe actually matches the shade of the large toothpick (see Picture)
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Wow Craig, the longest we ever went was a few months
It's like a disease. I've been on the wagon for a number of years, but now I've fallen off........HARD!
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Thanks Billy! I might give the Canoe blue and/or red a try. I'm in a Canoe frame of mind lately.
One Rough Rider pearl Canoe I'd like to find is the one that has the thin diagonal spacer through the middle. I can't find a dealer that still has them.
Sep 1, 2011
J.J. Smith III
Folks.
I'm not much of a pearl handle kind of guy, but I just had to get this, when I saw it, on a trip to SMKW.
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Perhaps a good place for a folder would be a sporran?
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The sporran makes a lousy loin cloth. And if you're looking for a handy place to tuck a knife when you have no pockets, go traditional and use your hose-tops. And socks are cheaper than pants or a sporran!
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" RR doesn't have the model # stamped on very many of their knives."
My chief complaint with Rough Riders. I hate their numbering system.
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I agree. It would be nice if they did a model/pattern numbering system kinda like Case, AND stamped them on the knives.
Also, it would be nice to know who, what, when, and where with Rough Rider tang stamps. They may never be collectible like Case with everyone, but with SOME of us they will. Besides, tang stamp info is just something I've gotten used to wanting to know about after all these years.
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It is strange that some of the RR have pattern numbers and others do not. I'm assuming this has to do with the fact that some blades are used on different knives. I will need to investigate a little. I'm sure it would ease manufacturing and cost not to put a pattern number on every sowbelly, especially if no other distinguishing marks were being added to the blade. Thus maybe, you'd put the pattern number on the clip blade for the moonshiner or blue but not for the White bone sowbelly and sawcut bone sowbelly. As the knives aren't in front of me, this is all just conjecture right now.
I also have an excel sheet for all my knives and pattern numbers are entered there when I get a new knife. When I first started the sheet, I had to look for pattern numbers. I found it easier to go to SMKW and look the items up than go though my drawer full of empty boxes and match the knife to the box.
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Have you tried asking for the info on their facebook page?
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rough-Rider-Knives/126552174041147
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I think Billy pretty well nailed it. I also would like to buy American Made but it is hard for me to compare a Case and Rough Rider side by side and then look at the price tag and not go with the Rough Rider. The F&F of a Case is not really that much better and the quality of the Case Tru-sharp steel may actually be less. Yet the the price is two to five times higher!
As it is I'm left to just collecting the peach seed jigged amber bone Case Knives and if RR produced a similar handle, I would buy it instead.
Will RR be worth more in the future? I think some will go up in value once they are discontinued. Others not so much.
As for Steel Warriors, I've heard lots of good things about them but Tom O'Dell and co. and Cutlery Corner has turned me off to almost anything Frost. Still, A friend gave me several Steel Warriors and I have to say they are very good. As good as Rough Riders? That will be a long argument clouded by personal bias. I will say, I really like the Crocodile Jigged bone Peanut and occasionally look on eBay for other Steel Warriors in that jig pattern.
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somewhere I have PDF files for RR up to the 400 numbers. It used to be on the sharpfans site.
I could be the start of an effort of devoted fans to get the whole line up in place. We could start an excel sheet and just start filling it in.
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Nice looking "A Stroke Of Luck" stockman there Billy!
I'm thinking about getting a canoe in the "A Stroke Of Luck" series.....I've been buying Rough Rider canoes (standard and mini) like crazy lately!
Sep 21, 2011
Tobias Gibson
Hi Craig,
If you get the ASOL canoe, let me know if the reverse side green bone is noticeablylighter. Mine has very dark green bone on the shield side and very light green bone on the reverse. I saw it that way at an eBay site and didn't think much of it. I ended up buying one direct from Smoky Mountain Knife works and it was as it was shown at the ebay site. My large toothpick has green bone of same shade on both sides
The back side of the Canoe actually matches the shade of the large toothpick (see Picture)
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