I really, really, really wish they'd bring out a line of kinves with"cracked ice" handles..........really. They can start with the baby barehead Trapper, mini Trapper, and standard Trapper.........please and thank you. Then, they can do some in ebony wood......that would be cool........to me.
I for one would rather see something other than acrylic/celluloid/plastic. Not a big fan. But I do have to admit, I've bought the Synth stones in the past and would buy more.
Talking about new knives this year has anyone seen a RR moose patern knife before? I have looked all over and can't find one. I guess none were ever made.
I know about the Colt moose knives, infact I own some, I meant the Rough Rider line.I don't think they made one. I like that idea "Bull Moose" it better be something special.
Craig said "A Teddy Roosevelt "Bull Moose" Moose knife seems like a natural."
My actual suggestion was to have it be a commemorative and to sell it in a display that included one of the Teddy Roosevelt Coins to be issued in 2013 by the U.S. Mint. That coin should be released around the middle of May, 2013. which would put the knife/coin combo ready in time for the Christmas rush. Seems to me it belongs with the Rough Rider line. But I'd guess if they don't snag it, someone over at Cutlery Corner will!
Wouldn't hurt for a few other people to mention it to Mr. Koontz at SMKW. I think he'd be a person who could make it happen.
I've seen a variety knives refered to as "Moose" some in swell center, humpback , equal-end/cigar and serpentine.
My opinion (and it is just that) is the Moose is a large, thick frame knife (four inches or more) with a large clip blade at the top and a large spay blade at the bottom. Normally the blades operate on their own springs and have a space between them (but not always).
As the RR is just 3.5 inches closed, I consider a somewhat puny Moose or a Moosling.
(PS, the Boker Moose pattern has clip and spear blade and often a swell or serpentine handle... The Case moose is built on the #75 frame -a square end serpentine frame)
Thanks for educating me more on the Moose pattern. It seems the more I understand something comes along that changes things. Keeps it interesting for sure. Very happy to be in the forums.
I just recently stopped carrying a Rough Rider Scout Knife. All in all I think Rough Riders make great EDCs (as well as collectibles). My only problem was I seem to need a Phillips screwdriver an awful lot these days, and I wanted it to be an in-line Phillips. More and more I was also wishing I had a small flashlight. As much as I liked the Scout Knife, I had to leave it behind for the Victorinox Swiss Army Spartan Lite. I miss the inline punch of the Scout knife but I’ll just have to deal with the back mounted one of the SAK.
This knife:
Was just replaced with this knife:
The RR cost about $10-15. The SAK was a steal at $25. Going price is $35-50! Was my RR lacking? Only once or so in a blue moon. Thus it really was a good all around EDC.
That said there are still several RR that are my Sunday go to Meetin' knives. Among them, my Toothpicks. Nothing like a Stoneworx Toothpick for a Sunday meeting. (The one on the right is for big important meetings.)
I am new to this group. I have made one purchase a rough rider painted desert muskrat (RR1003) . I picked this knife in part because I want to try out the pattern. However, I also found a website hand-tools.com that has a great selection of knives. They also offer laser engraving (up to 33 characters) for $4.95. I am now waitng for delivery of my engraved knife.
Last night on Knives Live TV, they introduced the first Moose pattern in the RR line. The number is RR1197, it has bone handles, ya'll check it out. Hey, welcome Jay, thanks for the info on that engraving.
Yea Tobias, they did make a moose in that blue moon handle but it's exactly like the Colt Moose, this is the first real RR moose. I plan to get one to check it out.
About the Razors (As in straight razors) if I heard the boys on KnivesLive TV correctly, this is brand new to the Rough Rider line. I'm guessing, in this case, they are responding to the success that Frost and all their related brands have been having.
Just when I think I've run out of Rough Riders I wan to buy, I suddenly get an urge for more peanuts. Two days ago I had four. Now I've got five and one on the way (Steve Koontz told me I better get the RR Stag peanut before they're all gone as Rough rider has no plans to make Stag handles in the future.
Here are all my peanuts:
Left to right,
Steel Warrior Croc Bone
Steel Warrior Key Lime Bone
Case Peach Seed Jigged Amber Bone
Rough Rider Smooth White Bone
Rough Rider Stoneworks Series.
The latest edition is the Stoneworx Peanut:
Closed
Opened
As I like the small patterns, I also have the Stoneworx Baby Toothpick
And a Few other of the Stoneworx series. I normally don't collect whole series, just certaint patterns. But the stoneworx knives just keep suckering me in.
So that means pattern wise, I'm not collecting
Large Toothpicks (RR has 5, so do I)
Rope Knives (RR really doesn't make them, the closest is the hawkbill)
Marlin Spike knives (They have 5 I have 6 by RR)
Scout knives (They make 2 I have Both)
Canittlers (They make a total of 7 and I have all 7)
Bartenders (They make 3 and I have 3)
Equal-end two blade pen knives & associated Gentleman's knives
(RR makes 2 and I have them)
and
Peanuts (I have no idea how many they make and it scares me)
I think I have enough Canoes and Sowbellies to add them to the list of patterns I collect but I'm fairly dormant with those.
I got a set of the 2nd generation stags from RR, when they came out. Only have the whittler from the firts gen. 2nd gen is far superior. The stag fixed blades look tempting.
Toby, great looking knives. I noticed a show or two ago that they hade made a run of Stoneworx leg knives. I have all of them except that new leg. I will have to buy it for my wife.
Is it just me or does anyone seem to think that SMKW is starting to release a bunch of knives in the Colt line with the more expensive handle materials instead of putting them in the Rough Rider line just so they can charge a little more for the knife. I tell you, from my experience the Colt knives really aren't that much better than RR but they sure do cost more. I guess I'm suffering from a little bit of Colt envy.
Toby, I have had problems with a couple of Colts that I have bought. I had to send a Canoe back because the shield fell out and the bone dye was terrible. I also bought a SS folder with a blue bone insert and the insert fell out. I am really Leary about buying a Colt because of these problems. On the other hand, I can't think of one RR that I have had a problem with.
Hi Jan, I'm waiting for the peanut to arrive. Order it a few days ago. Actually this si the second oen I'm ordering. Hopefully this will come- but that is an other story.
As for do I think Stag will be moving to the Colt line? Yes. I also thing that imported Remington are being contracted through SMKW even though they won't admit it. I'm guessing you'll see more stag and pearl showing up on these two lines. Don't get me wrong -- Even i think it is good business sense to put it on these other name brands . They have a limited amount of stag and pearl to work with. Makes sense to put it on the knives that you can charge more money for.
Ivas, I just recieved both moose pattern knives from SMKW and they are both in great shape. I also order a coperhead to give to someone as a little present. I noticed that it is not made as well as a coperhead I bought a few years ago. Whats up with that?
Hmm... You know, I had to return my coal miner lock-back to SMKW for a different one due to a bad lock. I know they recently sent a delegation over to their China factory due to a quality control issue. I wondering if they had a batch of bad knives made or something.
The rest of the Coal Miner series was put together with the quality I've come to expect from RR, (which is on par with Case) All my other RR have come from old stock. Even the 4 peanuts I recently ordered are probably from 2-3 year old stock so I really can say much about recent production.
Hopefully they haven't let production standards slip to keep the price the same. I'd rather pay a couple buck more for a knife of the same quality as a few years ago. Considering how much the price of everything else has gone up, I'm actually surprised that the price of RR hasn't gone up already!
I'm not sure if I've shown these. I'm pretty sure it is i the only equal-end pens made by Rough Rider. They need to consider making more in bone/pearl/stag/ or maybe even the stone-worx line. The equal-end pen is probably the ultimate "Gentleman's knife"
The blue one is the "Support the Cause" prostate cancer "man knife" The pink one is the "Support the Cause" breast cancer
I have never had to send a knife back because of a problem with it. They have all been well made for the amount of money being spent. I don't want to say anything about a Case knife that might offend our Case collectors. The brand knife that I have the most of is Case, the older ones I might add. I just try to enjoy both brands. Tobias, those sure are sweet little lady and gentlemen knives.
In my collection of knives, W.R. Case & Sons is number two behind Camillus when it comes to US made knives. Overall, it is the number 4 most numerous brand name.
1. Rough Rider
2. Victorinox
3. Camillus
4. Case
I know many say, that Case aren't as good as they used to be, but I find them a quality made USA knife, and compared to the price of other USA made knives, probably still the best bang for your buck when collecting USA made. I know the GEC crowd would beg to differ.
Unfortunately the price is a somewhat cost prohibitive, and the variety if not as wide as Rough Riders.
Robert, The Copperhead seems like it would be a great EDC but i usually rotate knives that i carry. the knife that sees the most carry time is a RR441 stockman with stag handles,will let you know after i carry it for a while
Robert, that's great news, I have bought several copperheads but have always given them away as presents. It might be time for me to keep one for myself. Good luck with yours.
robert benton
it,s going to be interesting to see what RR brings out this year. i would love to see the large swing guard lockback offered with more handle choices.
Jan 4, 2012
Featured
Craig Henry
I really, really, really wish they'd bring out a line of kinves with"cracked ice" handles..........really. They can start with the baby barehead Trapper, mini Trapper, and standard Trapper.........please and thank you. Then, they can do some in ebony wood......that would be cool........to me.
Jan 4, 2012
Tobias Gibson
Craig commented: "knives with"cracked ice" handles."
I for one would rather see something other than acrylic/celluloid/plastic. Not a big fan. But I do have to admit, I've bought the Synth stones in the past and would buy more.
Ebony on the other hand would be nice.
Jan 4, 2012
Featured
Craig Henry
I know, I'm one of those weirdos that likes imitation handles! LOL!
Jan 4, 2012
In Memoriam
Robert Burris
Talking about new knives this year has anyone seen a RR moose patern knife before? I have looked all over and can't find one. I guess none were ever made.
Jan 5, 2012
Tobias Gibson
Robert,
The only moose in the Rough Rider line I'm aware of is the "Once in a Blue Moon" which is made on the Remington/Colt Frame.
I've suggested they make a Teddy Roosevelt commemorative "Moose" knife called the "Bull Moose" We'll see if that happens.
Jan 5, 2012
In Memoriam
Robert Burris
I know about the Colt moose knives, infact I own some, I meant the Rough Rider line.I don't think they made one. I like that idea "Bull Moose" it better be something special.
Jan 5, 2012
stephen tungate
Jan 5, 2012
stephen tungate
here is my r. r. turtle shell sunfish catching a ride....
Jan 5, 2012
robert benton
some RR patterns made with buffalo horn handles would be nice too.
Jan 5, 2012
Tobias Gibson
Craig said "A Teddy Roosevelt "Bull Moose" Moose knife seems like a natural."
My actual suggestion was to have it be a commemorative and to sell it in a display that included one of the Teddy Roosevelt Coins to be issued in 2013 by the U.S. Mint. That coin should be released around the middle of May, 2013. which would put the knife/coin combo ready in time for the Christmas rush. Seems to me it belongs with the Rough Rider line. But I'd guess if they don't snag it, someone over at Cutlery Corner will!
Wouldn't hurt for a few other people to mention it to Mr. Koontz at SMKW. I think he'd be a person who could make it happen.
Jan 5, 2012
Mel Jones
Jan 5, 2012
Tobias Gibson
Hi Mel,
I've seen a variety knives refered to as "Moose" some in swell center, humpback , equal-end/cigar and serpentine.
My opinion (and it is just that) is the Moose is a large, thick frame knife (four inches or more) with a large clip blade at the top and a large spay blade at the bottom. Normally the blades operate on their own springs and have a space between them (but not always).
As the RR is just 3.5 inches closed, I consider a somewhat puny Moose or a Moosling.
(PS, the Boker Moose pattern has clip and spear blade and often a swell or serpentine handle... The Case moose is built on the #75 frame -a square end serpentine frame)
Jan 5, 2012
Mel Jones
Jan 5, 2012
Billy Oneale
Jan 5, 2012
Billy Oneale
Jan 5, 2012
Jan Carter
Ron,
That twisted bone sure is sweet
Jan 7, 2012
robert benton
Does anyone carry a RR on a daily basis if so which one. for me it,s a stag medium stockman or a boxcar whittler in smooth black bone.
Jan 11, 2012
Tobias Gibson
I just recently stopped carrying a Rough Rider Scout Knife. All in all I think Rough Riders make great EDCs (as well as collectibles). My only problem was I seem to need a Phillips screwdriver an awful lot these days, and I wanted it to be an in-line Phillips. More and more I was also wishing I had a small flashlight. As much as I liked the Scout Knife, I had to leave it behind for the Victorinox Swiss Army Spartan Lite. I miss the inline punch of the Scout knife but I’ll just have to deal with the back mounted one of the SAK.
This knife:
Was just replaced with this knife:
The RR cost about $10-15. The SAK was a steal at $25. Going price is $35-50! Was my RR lacking? Only once or so in a blue moon. Thus it really was a good all around EDC.
That said there are still several RR that are my Sunday go to Meetin' knives. Among them, my Toothpicks. Nothing like a Stoneworx Toothpick for a Sunday meeting. (The one on the right is for big important meetings.)
Jan 11, 2012
Tobias Gibson
In case you didn't know:
SMKW $5 flat rate shipping (domestic) on $50 or more purchase, all of January Code: JAN550.
So this would be a good time to buy some of those Rough Riders, you've been thinking about.
Jan 13, 2012
In Memoriam
Robert Burris
Thanks for the heads up there, Tobais.
Jan 13, 2012
Jay Sack
I am new to this group. I have made one purchase a rough rider painted desert muskrat (RR1003) . I picked this knife in part because I want to try out the pattern. However, I also found a website hand-tools.com that has a great selection of knives. They also offer laser engraving (up to 33 characters) for $4.95. I am now waitng for delivery of my engraved knife.
Jan 18, 2012
In Memoriam
Robert Burris
Last night on Knives Live TV, they introduced the first Moose pattern in the RR line. The number is RR1197, it has bone handles, ya'll check it out. Hey, welcome Jay, thanks for the info on that engraving.
Jan 18, 2012
Tobias Gibson
I sure about that number? I have 1193 as the RR blue moon moose. So does SMKW
Blue moon moose
Jan 18, 2012
In Memoriam
Robert Burris
Yea Tobias, they did make a moose in that blue moon handle but it's exactly like the Colt Moose, this is the first real RR moose. I plan to get one to check it out.
Jan 22, 2012
Jan Carter
Robert,
Is this it?
http://www.smkw.com/webapp/eCommerce/products/+RR1197/Rough+Rider%2...
Jan 28, 2012
Tobias Gibson
This is the image Jan was pointing towards. A fairly big knife. 4.25 inches closed. Has the new "bomb shield"
Jan 28, 2012
Tobias Gibson
About the Razors (As in straight razors) if I heard the boys on KnivesLive TV correctly, this is brand new to the Rough Rider line. I'm guessing, in this case, they are responding to the success that Frost and all their related brands have been having.
Jan 29, 2012
In Memoriam
Robert Burris
Thanks Tobias, I plan to order one this week. I got to get that Moose......
Jan 29, 2012
robert benton
The moose looks nice,Will have to get one soon
Jan 30, 2012
In Memoriam
Robert Burris
I have both on the way, I'll post a picture when they get here.
Jan 30, 2012
Tobias Gibson
Just when I think I've run out of Rough Riders I wan to buy, I suddenly get an urge for more peanuts. Two days ago I had four. Now I've got five and one on the way (Steve Koontz told me I better get the RR Stag peanut before they're all gone as Rough rider has no plans to make Stag handles in the future.
Here are all my peanuts:
Left to right,
Steel Warrior Croc Bone
Steel Warrior Key Lime Bone
Case Peach Seed Jigged Amber Bone
Rough Rider Smooth White Bone
Rough Rider Stoneworks Series.
The latest edition is the Stoneworx Peanut:
Closed
Opened
As I like the small patterns, I also have the Stoneworx Baby Toothpick
And a Few other of the Stoneworx series. I normally don't collect whole series, just certaint patterns. But the stoneworx knives just keep suckering me in.
So that means pattern wise, I'm not collecting
Large Toothpicks (RR has 5, so do I)
Rope Knives (RR really doesn't make them, the closest is the hawkbill)
Marlin Spike knives (They have 5 I have 6 by RR)
Scout knives (They make 2 I have Both)
Canittlers (They make a total of 7 and I have all 7)
Bartenders (They make 3 and I have 3)
Equal-end two blade pen knives & associated Gentleman's knives
(RR makes 2 and I have them)
and
Peanuts (I have no idea how many they make and it scares me)
I think I have enough Canoes and Sowbellies to add them to the list of patterns I collect but I'm fairly dormant with those.
Feb 1, 2012
In Memoriam
Robert Burris
Those are great, Tobias.
Feb 2, 2012
J.J. Smith III
I got a set of the 2nd generation stags from RR, when they came out. Only have the whittler from the firts gen. 2nd gen is far superior. The stag fixed blades look tempting.
Feb 2, 2012
Billy Oneale
Toby, great looking knives. I noticed a show or two ago that they hade made a run of Stoneworx leg knives. I have all of them except that new leg. I will have to buy it for my wife.
Feb 2, 2012
Tobias Gibson
Is it just me or does anyone seem to think that SMKW is starting to release a bunch of knives in the Colt line with the more expensive handle materials instead of putting them in the Rough Rider line just so they can charge a little more for the knife. I tell you, from my experience the Colt knives really aren't that much better than RR but they sure do cost more. I guess I'm suffering from a little bit of Colt envy.
Feb 3, 2012
Billy Oneale
Feb 3, 2012
Jan Carter
Tobias,
get the RR Stag peanut before they're all gone as Rough rider has no plans to make Stag handles in the future
Do you think this is going to be one of the materials moved to the Colt line?
Feb 4, 2012
Tobias Gibson
Hi Jan, I'm waiting for the peanut to arrive. Order it a few days ago. Actually this si the second oen I'm ordering. Hopefully this will come- but that is an other story.
As for do I think Stag will be moving to the Colt line? Yes. I also thing that imported Remington are being contracted through SMKW even though they won't admit it. I'm guessing you'll see more stag and pearl showing up on these two lines. Don't get me wrong -- Even i think it is good business sense to put it on these other name brands . They have a limited amount of stag and pearl to work with. Makes sense to put it on the knives that you can charge more money for.
Feb 4, 2012
Tobias Gibson
Moonshiner Canoe.
Feb 4, 2012
Billy Oneale
That is a great picture, Toby. I should have bought some in that series, but I didn't.
Feb 4, 2012
In Memoriam
Robert Burris
Ivas, I just recieved both moose pattern knives from SMKW and they are both in great shape. I also order a coperhead to give to someone as a little present. I noticed that it is not made as well as a coperhead I bought a few years ago. Whats up with that?
Feb 6, 2012
Tobias Gibson
Hmm... You know, I had to return my coal miner lock-back to SMKW for a different one due to a bad lock. I know they recently sent a delegation over to their China factory due to a quality control issue. I wondering if they had a batch of bad knives made or something.
The rest of the Coal Miner series was put together with the quality I've come to expect from RR, (which is on par with Case) All my other RR have come from old stock. Even the 4 peanuts I recently ordered are probably from 2-3 year old stock so I really can say much about recent production.
Hopefully they haven't let production standards slip to keep the price the same. I'd rather pay a couple buck more for a knife of the same quality as a few years ago. Considering how much the price of everything else has gone up, I'm actually surprised that the price of RR hasn't gone up already!
I'm not sure if I've shown these. I'm pretty sure it is i the only equal-end pens made by Rough Rider. They need to consider making more in bone/pearl/stag/ or maybe even the stone-worx line. The equal-end pen is probably the ultimate "Gentleman's knife"
The blue one is the "Support the Cause" prostate cancer "man knife" The pink one is the "Support the Cause" breast cancer
Feb 6, 2012
In Memoriam
Robert Burris
I have never had to send a knife back because of a problem with it. They have all been well made for the amount of money being spent. I don't want to say anything about a Case knife that might offend our Case collectors. The brand knife that I have the most of is Case, the older ones I might add. I just try to enjoy both brands. Tobias, those sure are sweet little lady and gentlemen knives.
Feb 6, 2012
Tobias Gibson
In my collection of knives, W.R. Case & Sons is number two behind Camillus when it comes to US made knives. Overall, it is the number 4 most numerous brand name.
1. Rough Rider
2. Victorinox
3. Camillus
4. Case
I know many say, that Case aren't as good as they used to be, but I find them a quality made USA knife, and compared to the price of other USA made knives, probably still the best bang for your buck when collecting USA made. I know the GEC crowd would beg to differ.
Unfortunately the price is a somewhat cost prohibitive, and the variety if not as wide as Rough Riders.
Feb 6, 2012
In Memoriam
Robert Burris
Here's a look at my new Rough Rider moose, it really does look rough and ready.
Feb 6, 2012
robert benton
Picked up a RR313 large Red jigged bone copperhead.Nice knife all around anyone else have one of these
Feb 6, 2012
In Memoriam
Robert Burris
Robert, I just got a copperhead for a friend, it's a great patern for a knife. Tell us how yours works out.
Feb 8, 2012
robert benton
Robert, The Copperhead seems like it would be a great EDC but i usually rotate knives that i carry. the knife that sees the most carry time is a RR441 stockman with stag handles,will let you know after i carry it for a while
Feb 8, 2012
In Memoriam
Robert Burris
Robert, that's great news, I have bought several copperheads but have always given them away as presents. It might be time for me to keep one for myself. Good luck with yours.
Feb 8, 2012