I got a set of the 2nd generation stags from RR, when they came out.  Only have the whittler from the firts gen.  2nd gen is far superior.  The stag fixed blades look tempting.

Toby, great looking knives. I noticed a show or two ago that they hade made a run of Stoneworx leg knives. I have all of them except that new leg. I will have to buy it for my wife.

Is it  just me or does anyone seem to think that SMKW is starting to release a bunch of knives in the Colt line with the more expensive handle materials instead of putting them in the Rough Rider line just so they can charge a little more for the knife.   I tell you,  from my experience the Colt knives really aren't that much better than RR but they sure do cost more.  I guess I'm suffering from a little bit of Colt envy.

Tobias,

get the RR Stag peanut before they're all gone as Rough rider has no plans to make Stag handles in the future

Do you think this is going to be one of the materials moved to the Colt line?

Hi Jan, I'm waiting for the peanut to arrive.  Order it a few days ago.   Actually this si the second oen I'm ordering.  Hopefully this will come- but that is an other story.

As for do I think Stag will be moving to the Colt line?  Yes.  I also thing that imported Remington are being contracted through SMKW even though they won't admit it.  I'm guessing you'll see more stag and pearl showing up on these two lines.  Don't get me wrong -- Even i think it is  good business sense to put  it on these other name brands .  They have a limited amount of stag and pearl to work with.  Makes sense to put it on the knives that you can charge more money for.

Moonshiner Canoe.

That is a great picture, Toby. I should have bought some in that series, but I didn't.

Ivas, I just recieved both moose pattern knives from SMKW and they are both in great shape. I also order a coperhead to give to someone as a little present. I noticed that it is not made as well as a coperhead I bought a few years ago. Whats up with that?

Hmm... You know, I had to return my coal miner lock-back to SMKW for a different one due to a bad lock.  I know  they recently sent a delegation over to their China factory due to a quality control issue.  I wondering if they had a batch of bad knives made or something.

The rest of the Coal Miner series was put together with the quality I've come to expect from RR, (which is on par with Case)   All my other RR have come from old stock.  Even the 4 peanuts I recently ordered are probably from 2-3 year old stock so I really can say much about recent production. 

Hopefully they haven't let production standards slip to keep the price the same.  I'd rather pay a couple buck more for a knife of the same quality as a few years ago. Considering how much the price of everything else has gone up, I'm actually surprised that the price of RR hasn't gone up already!

I'm not sure if I've shown these. I'm pretty sure it is i the only equal-end pens made by Rough Rider.  They need to consider making more in bone/pearl/stag/ or maybe even the stone-worx line.  The equal-end pen is probably the ultimate "Gentleman's knife"

The blue one is the "Support the Cause" prostate cancer "man knife"  The pink one is the "Support the Cause" breast cancer

I have never had to send a knife back because of a problem with it. They have all been well made for the amount of money being spent. I don't want to say anything about a Case knife that might offend our Case collectors. The brand knife that I have the most of is Case, the older ones I might add. I just try to enjoy both brands. Tobias, those sure are sweet little lady and gentlemen knives.

In my collection of knives, W.R. Case & Sons is number two behind Camillus when it comes to US made knives.  Overall, it is  the number 4 most numerous brand name.

1. Rough Rider

2. Victorinox

3. Camillus

4. Case

I know many say, that Case aren't as good as they used to be, but I find them a quality made USA knife, and compared to the price of other USA made knives, probably still the best bang for your buck when collecting USA made.  I know the GEC crowd would beg to differ.

Unfortunately the price is a somewhat cost prohibitive, and the variety if not as wide as Rough Riders.

Here's a look at my new Rough Rider moose, it really does look rough and ready.

Picked up a RR313 large Red jigged bone copperhead.Nice knife all around anyone else have one of these

Robert, I just got a copperhead for a friend, it's a great patern for a knife. Tell us how yours works out.

Robert, The Copperhead seems like it would be a great EDC but i usually rotate knives that i carry. the knife that sees the most carry time is a RR441 stockman with stag handles,will let you know after i carry it for a while 

Robert, that's great news, I have bought several copperheads but have always given them away as presents. It might be time for me to keep one for myself. Good luck with yours.

well i went to my favorite knife dealer today-The Knife Place in lakeland fl to get a storage pouch for one of my knives.he had just taken in some RR,s and Steel warriors in on trade i picked up a large RR dogleg trapper in the trapper series and a Steel Warrior peanut with rams horn handles,Got both of the knives for $5 each both have not been used Not Bad

Yesterday was a review of the Coal Miner Series

Today it is a look a RR Genuine Stag.

Both Reviews are at Rough Rider Reviews

Nice Trapper, Ron.  And I don't even collect Trappers!

Thats a looker alright - I have been carrying a RR Trapper every day for the past 6 months & I use it everyday - edge has held up great - before I retired from knifemaking & would get $450.00 to build a 2 blade Trapper - & to think these RR's can be built with this quality & sell for 5/10/20 bucks is beyond my DNA - tom 

I normally don't buy a lot of pearl, but I do kinda like the black pearl.  I recently picked up the black pearl peanut.  Its an older pattern but it looks pretty nice.  As the "Always Ready" blade etch.  I not sure if that was just on the first run or not.

Pattern number was RR237.  It came in the old yellow box. The picture doesn't do the knife justice. The small pen blade is a bit tough to open, but to be honest the pen blade on my Case Peanuts are even harder!  All in all I('m very pleased with it.

The Black Pearl is one of the better looking pearls.

Has anyone heard from Craig, lately?

No, I have not heard from Craig, Some times we have medical problems. I had some myself. We can just hope everything is fine.

Only pearl that I have is the gunboat canoe.

That sure is prety, J.J.

Finally got to check out the new RR moose. Very nice knife!,the dealer that i get most of my knives from has them in the same bone as pictured here on the RR forum and the smooth brown bone in the outdoorsman series,I am getting one next week.  

Robert, when you get your Moose, please come and join us at the group "Box Full of Knives" in the sub-group "Moose Pattern Knives". You could post a picture of your new Moose knives and chit chat with other members that have had the Moose Pattern bug bite.

got to wonder about some of the Colt knives vs. RR vs. Remingtons made in China.  The similarities are striking!  Same with the Marbles, and few other SMKW house brands.

Robert, you are correct.  And while it is good business strategy to slap a more recognized brand name on a product it  kind of irks me.  An example is below.  Red bone "Marbles" and two Rough Riders.  The best of the three is also the least expensive.  The red bone Marbles came in an orange box and included a inexpensive black pouch.  I think it normally goes for around $17-20.  Has a marbles shield and blade etch.  The knife comes in different types of bone or plastic handles but all run about $5 more than the Rough Riders.  

As a person who likes the 5 inch toothpicks, It is kind of aggravating to see the same knife, being made and marketed under different brands and with "special collectors" packaging.  I just want the knife, not the fluff which causes needless mark-up.

The second knife is a RR and is part of the Long Rifle Series.  Normally goes for around $15-18 because of  the tin packaging.  Same knife, just in smooth bone with different shield and blade etch.

The third knife is the RR stroke of luck. Same profile, same quality as the other two, but with reverse frosted blade, different style bolsters, but still the same basic knife.   However it goes for $12-15.

It would not be so bad that one company makes 4 different brands but atleast they could be 4 different knives. You just have to take it as it comes and try to enjoy the knives. I try do a little homework on a knife before I buy it. I think you are studying them to.

You're correct, Robert.   When I realized the Marbles  5 inch toothpicks were overpriced Rough Riders.  I was upset.  Had there been significant differences in the knife, it would've been different.  Bottom line, is they just different colored bone handles and they have one in imitation tortoise shell.  The marbles knives are all exactly the same except the handle material.  There is more variety in the Rough Riders and they cost less.

I'm tempted to buy the Marbles toothpicks but when I see the price, it just irks me.  And then I kick myself.  Were talking a difference of $3-5!  Not that big a deal in the grand scheme of things. 

The brands are all made in the same place. I don't think SMKW would want to have to chase quality control on 3 or 4 different factories. It's all about the sale of knives and making money. As for most of the old Marbles before they went bankrupt, you won't find the same scales on other knives. And the MSA Marbles are getting harder to find. I did buy a Cattle Knife in stag bone the other day and it is basically a RR. here is a pic of it. I still like it even if it may be a RR in disguise. One correction to what I said, The Tortoise shell is the same as on other brands. That's a great looking collection of toothpicks, Toby. I really like the large toothpicks.

How do you like the Cattle Knife, Billy?  I'm thinking about pickign that one up.  I also like they Scrimshaw series they're doing.   I might grab the one with the Raccoons on the handles.  Glad you like the toothpicks.  I keep asking when they'll be making more in the RR line, but the answer seems to be "Never".  I'm still debating on picking up a couple more of the Marbles large toothpicks but it just doesn't seem to be the same.  I like it better when the knife I get from Marbles is only branded by Marbles.  I think I'm a victim of knowledge.  Knowing both brands are made by the same company, in the same factory with the same quality control makes it hard for me to buy a more expensive knife simply because it has a different brand name stamped on it.

Not Rough Riders but two of my favorite modern Marbles, the Fisherman's tool and the Fly Fisherman.  I think the Fly Fisherman is actually an old Case pattern, not sure.     But the cool thing about both, is currently there is onle one comapny making them.  And that is Marbles.

Billy, who makes that cattle king, I sort of got lost between all the different companies. Looks like a Colt. Thats one ya'll left out and I think its made there to.

Robert, the cattle king was one of Marbles new lines.

Toby, most of the Marbles I have are imports, but were still owned by Marbles. This was the first Marbles that I have bought since SMKW got the rights to the Marbles name, which happened a year or so ago when they went bankrupt. The knife is well made with good fit and finish and good snap. I didn't even see much light through the backsprings.

Here is a new ( to me) Rough Rider Cuttin Tool. I had never seen this one, but I bought it for a good price on ebay. It even came with a storage pouch, just like Marbles brand. ( Imagine that) It's a neat little pattern.

Here are a couple of Moose Rough Riders that I bought recently. Robert, See what you did to me? One is a Once in a Blue Moon Moose that is 3 1/2"  in the closed position. The other one is a Blue Swirl Moose that is 4 1/4" in the closed position. Both of them are good knives, especially for the price point.

I almost forgot my new Stoneworx knife. This one is a 2 7/8" lockback Barlow. I guess that Rough Rider decided to add some new patterns, since this is RR1164

Billy, I love Barlows, and the fancier the better and that looks like a fancy one. The Moose's are nice, check out the swedges on the top of the blades, something some expensive knives seem to have forgotten. Once you start Moose hunting you just can't stop...lol

ever one who buy's rough riders get all the stag they made heard little bird told me  

Billy, I also had to jump on the baby barlow LB.  Grabbed it and the Armour-hide  Tiny Toothpick at the same time.  I had no intention of buying but when Knives Live offered the free KLTV/SMKW church key to go with a purchase for free, on top of $5 shipping on any order, I had to go for it.

PS, I'm also a person who thinks they need to re-release the armor hides as Armadillo jigged bone.  The whole samari thing is just too steel warrior for me.  And while I think Steel Warriors are a decent knife, I don't want the lines between RR and Frost to get blurred.

I love those fancy Barlows. I wish their toothpicks were larger. I am missing alot not veiwing their TV show.

Robert,

You and me both on the toothpicks.  They only make 4 or5  four  inch toothpicks and only 5 five inch toothpicks.  I've got around 8 or soo of the babies but i really like the standard and the large toothpicks.

We need to start a petition for more large frame  Rough Rider Toothpicks.

Toby

They read this forum daily my friend, don't think they don't. We don't need a petition just get more people to sound off. The tooth picks I've gotten are maybe 4 inch and on the light side. They need a full size.

I would also like to see a full sized toothpick please.  In Tobacco bone if I could