I have never had to send a knife back because of a problem with it. They have all been well made for the amount of money being spent. I don't want to say anything about a Case knife that might offend our Case collectors. The brand knife that I have the most of is Case, the older ones I might add. I just try to enjoy both brands. Tobias, those sure are sweet little lady and gentlemen knives.
In my collection of knives, W.R. Case & Sons is number two behind Camillus when it comes to US made knives. Overall, it is the number 4 most numerous brand name.
1. Rough Rider
2. Victorinox
3. Camillus
4. Case
I know many say, that Case aren't as good as they used to be, but I find them a quality made USA knife, and compared to the price of other USA made knives, probably still the best bang for your buck when collecting USA made. I know the GEC crowd would beg to differ.
Unfortunately the price is a somewhat cost prohibitive, and the variety if not as wide as Rough Riders.
Robert, The Copperhead seems like it would be a great EDC but i usually rotate knives that i carry. the knife that sees the most carry time is a RR441 stockman with stag handles,will let you know after i carry it for a while
Robert, that's great news, I have bought several copperheads but have always given them away as presents. It might be time for me to keep one for myself. Good luck with yours.
well i went to my favorite knife dealer today-The Knife Place in lakeland fl to get a storage pouch for one of my knives.he had just taken in some RR,s and Steel warriors in on trade i picked up a large RR dogleg trapper in the trapper series and a Steel Warrior peanut with rams horn handles,Got both of the knives for $5 each both have not been used Not Bad
Thats a looker alright - I have been carrying a RR Trapper every day for the past 6 months & I use it everyday - edge has held up great - before I retired from knifemaking & would get $450.00 to build a 2 blade Trapper - & to think these RR's can be built with this quality & sell for 5/10/20 bucks is beyond my DNA - tom
I normally don't buy a lot of pearl, but I do kinda like the black pearl. I recently picked up the black pearl peanut. Its an older pattern but it looks pretty nice. As the "Always Ready" blade etch. I not sure if that was just on the first run or not.
Pattern number was RR237. It came in the old yellow box. The picture doesn't do the knife justice. The small pen blade is a bit tough to open, but to be honest the pen blade on my Case Peanuts are even harder! All in all I('m very pleased with it.
Finally got to check out the new RR moose. Very nice knife!,the dealer that i get most of my knives from has them in the same bone as pictured here on the RR forum and the smooth brown bone in the outdoorsman series,I am getting one next week.
Robert, when you get your Moose, please come and join us at the group "Box Full of Knives" in the sub-group "Moose Pattern Knives". You could post a picture of your new Moose knives and chit chat with other members that have had the Moose Pattern bug bite.
got to wonder about some of the Colt knives vs. RR vs. Remingtons made in China. The similarities are striking! Same with the Marbles, and few other SMKW house brands.
Robert, you are correct. And while it is good business strategy to slap a more recognized brand name on a product it kind of irks me. An example is below. Red bone "Marbles" and two Rough Riders. The best of the three is also the least expensive. The red bone Marbles came in an orange box and included a inexpensive black pouch. I think it normally goes for around $17-20. Has a marbles shield and blade etch. The knife comes in different types of bone or plastic handles but all run about $5 more than the Rough Riders.
As a person who likes the 5 inch toothpicks, It is kind of aggravating to see the same knife, being made and marketed under different brands and with "special collectors" packaging. I just want the knife, not the fluff which causes needless mark-up.
The second knife is a RR and is part of the Long Rifle Series. Normally goes for around $15-18 because of the tin packaging. Same knife, just in smooth bone with different shield and blade etch.
The third knife is the RR stroke of luck. Same profile, same quality as the other two, but with reverse frosted blade, different style bolsters, but still the same basic knife. However it goes for $12-15.
It would not be so bad that one company makes 4 different brands but atleast they could be 4 different knives. You just have to take it as it comes and try to enjoy the knives. I try do a little homework on a knife before I buy it. I think you are studying them to.
You're correct, Robert. When I realized the Marbles 5 inch toothpicks were overpriced Rough Riders. I was upset. Had there been significant differences in the knife, it would've been different. Bottom line, is they just different colored bone handles and they have one in imitation tortoise shell. The marbles knives are all exactly the same except the handle material. There is more variety in the Rough Riders and they cost less.
I'm tempted to buy the Marbles toothpicks but when I see the price, it just irks me. And then I kick myself. Were talking a difference of $3-5! Not that big a deal in the grand scheme of things.
The brands are all made in the same place. I don't think SMKW would want to have to chase quality control on 3 or 4 different factories. It's all about the sale of knives and making money. As for most of the old Marbles before they went bankrupt, you won't find the same scales on other knives. And the MSA Marbles are getting harder to find. I did buy a Cattle Knife in stag bone the other day and it is basically a RR. here is a pic of it. I still like it even if it may be a RR in disguise. One correction to what I said, The Tortoise shell is the same as on other brands. That's a great looking collection of toothpicks, Toby. I really like the large toothpicks.
How do you like the Cattle Knife, Billy? I'm thinking about pickign that one up. I also like they Scrimshaw series they're doing. I might grab the one with the Raccoons on the handles. Glad you like the toothpicks. I keep asking when they'll be making more in the RR line, but the answer seems to be "Never". I'm still debating on picking up a couple more of the Marbles large toothpicks but it just doesn't seem to be the same. I like it better when the knife I get from Marbles is only branded by Marbles. I think I'm a victim of knowledge. Knowing both brands are made by the same company, in the same factory with the same quality control makes it hard for me to buy a more expensive knife simply because it has a different brand name stamped on it.
Not Rough Riders but two of my favorite modern Marbles, the Fisherman's tool and the Fly Fisherman. I think the Fly Fisherman is actually an old Case pattern, not sure. But the cool thing about both, is currently there is onle one comapny making them. And that is Marbles.
Billy, who makes that cattle king, I sort of got lost between all the different companies. Looks like a Colt. Thats one ya'll left out and I think its made there to.
Toby, most of the Marbles I have are imports, but were still owned by Marbles. This was the first Marbles that I have bought since SMKW got the rights to the Marbles name, which happened a year or so ago when they went bankrupt. The knife is well made with good fit and finish and good snap. I didn't even see much light through the backsprings.
Here is a new ( to me) Rough Rider Cuttin Tool. I had never seen this one, but I bought it for a good price on ebay. It even came with a storage pouch, just like Marbles brand. ( Imagine that) It's a neat little pattern.
Here are a couple of Moose Rough Riders that I bought recently. Robert, See what you did to me? One is a Once in a Blue Moon Moose that is 3 1/2" in the closed position. The other one is a Blue Swirl Moose that is 4 1/4" in the closed position. Both of them are good knives, especially for the price point.
I almost forgot my new Stoneworx knife. This one is a 2 7/8" lockback Barlow. I guess that Rough Rider decided to add some new patterns, since this is RR1164
Billy, I love Barlows, and the fancier the better and that looks like a fancy one. The Moose's are nice, check out the swedges on the top of the blades, something some expensive knives seem to have forgotten. Once you start Moose hunting you just can't stop...lol
Billy, I also had to jump on the baby barlow LB. Grabbed it and the Armour-hide Tiny Toothpick at the same time. I had no intention of buying but when Knives Live offered the free KLTV/SMKW church key to go with a purchase for free, on top of $5 shipping on any order, I had to go for it.
PS, I'm also a person who thinks they need to re-release the armor hides as Armadillo jigged bone. The whole samari thing is just too steel warrior for me. And while I think Steel Warriors are a decent knife, I don't want the lines between RR and Frost to get blurred.
You and me both on the toothpicks. They only make 4 or5 four inch toothpicks and only 5 five inch toothpicks. I've got around 8 or soo of the babies but i really like the standard and the large toothpicks.
We need to start a petition for more large frame Rough Rider Toothpicks.
They read this forum daily my friend, don't think they don't. We don't need a petition just get more people to sound off. The tooth picks I've gotten are maybe 4 inch and on the light side. They need a full size.
Haven't posted for a while. Many of you already know I made it down to SMKW a week or so ago. I actually tried not to buy any Rough Riders figuring I could buy them later. Still I had to visit the booth. As I was there I saw the Once in a blue moon 5 inch lockback. I really don't care much for the 5 inch LB but I saw this one and it started my RR spending spree. I'll post others later.
Nice packaging and really nice nylon pouch with horizontal and vertical carry options.
Nice reverse frosting, very nice dye job, very positive lock, and terrific profile with the swedge on the blade and slanted bolsters.
Another vier of etch and the swedge on the blade. The knife has a slimmer profile than my Bear & Son 5 inch LB (my only other 5 in lockback) but still feels great in the hand. The RR 1192 goes for $11.95. At that price it is a steal. If you're a fan of 5 inch LB or just want to see if you like the pattern, I'd say snatch this one up.
That would be the Stoneworx Toothpick. I got one of those the first time around and it was terrific. f anyone picks it up let me know what you think. what I like most about it is that is has the most Turquoise in it. Most of the others Stoneworx knives run on the Red Jasper side.
i have not posted in a while but i recently picked up a colt ct323 large moose in brown stag bone, i am very impressed with this knife very well built it is a bit larger than th rr moose which is next on my list any one else have one of the colts.
Nice that he is plugging RR but he doesn't seem to know much about pocket knives. The buck is a 420HC and isn't too bad a knife. I'll agree it is more due to name recognition that it cost more than a Rough Rider. Here is a nice review Rough Rider vs Eye Brand: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xO4uGeDEzE0
She's a carver, not a collector. For general use 420 is fine, but the 440 that is used in RR is appearantly closer to the specs in a fixed carver. As much sharpening as I do on my whittlers, RR's hold up among the top 3.
In Memoriam
Robert Burris
I have never had to send a knife back because of a problem with it. They have all been well made for the amount of money being spent. I don't want to say anything about a Case knife that might offend our Case collectors. The brand knife that I have the most of is Case, the older ones I might add. I just try to enjoy both brands. Tobias, those sure are sweet little lady and gentlemen knives.
Feb 6, 2012
Tobias Gibson
In my collection of knives, W.R. Case & Sons is number two behind Camillus when it comes to US made knives. Overall, it is the number 4 most numerous brand name.
1. Rough Rider
2. Victorinox
3. Camillus
4. Case
I know many say, that Case aren't as good as they used to be, but I find them a quality made USA knife, and compared to the price of other USA made knives, probably still the best bang for your buck when collecting USA made. I know the GEC crowd would beg to differ.
Unfortunately the price is a somewhat cost prohibitive, and the variety if not as wide as Rough Riders.
Feb 6, 2012
In Memoriam
Robert Burris
Here's a look at my new Rough Rider moose, it really does look rough and ready.
Feb 6, 2012
robert benton
Picked up a RR313 large Red jigged bone copperhead.Nice knife all around anyone else have one of these
Feb 6, 2012
In Memoriam
Robert Burris
Robert, I just got a copperhead for a friend, it's a great patern for a knife. Tell us how yours works out.
Feb 8, 2012
robert benton
Robert, The Copperhead seems like it would be a great EDC but i usually rotate knives that i carry. the knife that sees the most carry time is a RR441 stockman with stag handles,will let you know after i carry it for a while
Feb 8, 2012
In Memoriam
Robert Burris
Robert, that's great news, I have bought several copperheads but have always given them away as presents. It might be time for me to keep one for myself. Good luck with yours.
Feb 8, 2012
robert benton
well i went to my favorite knife dealer today-The Knife Place in lakeland fl to get a storage pouch for one of my knives.he had just taken in some RR,s and Steel warriors in on trade i picked up a large RR dogleg trapper in the trapper series and a Steel Warrior peanut with rams horn handles,Got both of the knives for $5 each both have not been used Not Bad
Feb 9, 2012
Tobias Gibson
Yesterday was a review of the Coal Miner Series
Today it is a look a RR Genuine Stag.
Both Reviews are at Rough Rider Reviews
Feb 9, 2012
Tobias Gibson
Nice Trapper, Ron. And I don't even collect Trappers!
Feb 19, 2012
KnifeMaker
Tom Hudson
Thats a looker alright - I have been carrying a RR Trapper every day for the past 6 months & I use it everyday - edge has held up great - before I retired from knifemaking & would get $450.00 to build a 2 blade Trapper - & to think these RR's can be built with this quality & sell for 5/10/20 bucks is beyond my DNA - tom
Feb 19, 2012
Tobias Gibson
I normally don't buy a lot of pearl, but I do kinda like the black pearl. I recently picked up the black pearl peanut. Its an older pattern but it looks pretty nice. As the "Always Ready" blade etch. I not sure if that was just on the first run or not.
Pattern number was RR237. It came in the old yellow box. The picture doesn't do the knife justice. The small pen blade is a bit tough to open, but to be honest the pen blade on my Case Peanuts are even harder! All in all I('m very pleased with it.
Feb 23, 2012
Billy Oneale
The Black Pearl is one of the better looking pearls.
Feb 23, 2012
Billy Oneale
Has anyone heard from Craig, lately?
Feb 23, 2012
In Memoriam
Robert Burris
No, I have not heard from Craig, Some times we have medical problems. I had some myself. We can just hope everything is fine.
Feb 23, 2012
J.J. Smith III
Only pearl that I have is the gunboat canoe.
Feb 24, 2012
In Memoriam
Robert Burris
That sure is prety, J.J.
Feb 24, 2012
robert benton
Finally got to check out the new RR moose. Very nice knife!,the dealer that i get most of my knives from has them in the same bone as pictured here on the RR forum and the smooth brown bone in the outdoorsman series,I am getting one next week.
Feb 25, 2012
In Memoriam
Robert Burris
Robert, when you get your Moose, please come and join us at the group "Box Full of Knives" in the sub-group "Moose Pattern Knives". You could post a picture of your new Moose knives and chit chat with other members that have had the Moose Pattern bug bite.
Feb 29, 2012
Tobias Gibson
got to wonder about some of the Colt knives vs. RR vs. Remingtons made in China. The similarities are striking! Same with the Marbles, and few other SMKW house brands.
Feb 29, 2012
In Memoriam
Robert Burris
Feb 29, 2012
Tobias Gibson
Robert, you are correct. And while it is good business strategy to slap a more recognized brand name on a product it kind of irks me. An example is below. Red bone "Marbles" and two Rough Riders. The best of the three is also the least expensive. The red bone Marbles came in an orange box and included a inexpensive black pouch. I think it normally goes for around $17-20. Has a marbles shield and blade etch. The knife comes in different types of bone or plastic handles but all run about $5 more than the Rough Riders.
As a person who likes the 5 inch toothpicks, It is kind of aggravating to see the same knife, being made and marketed under different brands and with "special collectors" packaging. I just want the knife, not the fluff which causes needless mark-up.
The second knife is a RR and is part of the Long Rifle Series. Normally goes for around $15-18 because of the tin packaging. Same knife, just in smooth bone with different shield and blade etch.
The third knife is the RR stroke of luck. Same profile, same quality as the other two, but with reverse frosted blade, different style bolsters, but still the same basic knife. However it goes for $12-15.
Feb 29, 2012
In Memoriam
Robert Burris
It would not be so bad that one company makes 4 different brands but atleast they could be 4 different knives. You just have to take it as it comes and try to enjoy the knives. I try do a little homework on a knife before I buy it. I think you are studying them to.
Feb 29, 2012
Tobias Gibson
You're correct, Robert. When I realized the Marbles 5 inch toothpicks were overpriced Rough Riders. I was upset. Had there been significant differences in the knife, it would've been different. Bottom line, is they just different colored bone handles and they have one in imitation tortoise shell. The marbles knives are all exactly the same except the handle material. There is more variety in the Rough Riders and they cost less.
I'm tempted to buy the Marbles toothpicks but when I see the price, it just irks me. And then I kick myself. Were talking a difference of $3-5! Not that big a deal in the grand scheme of things.
Feb 29, 2012
Billy Oneale
The brands are all made in the same place. I don't think SMKW would want to have to chase quality control on 3 or 4 different factories. It's all about the sale of knives and making money. As for most of the old Marbles before they went bankrupt, you won't find the same scales on other knives. And the MSA Marbles are getting harder to find. I did buy a Cattle Knife in stag bone the other day and it is basically a RR. here is a pic of it. I still like it even if it may be a RR in disguise. One correction to what I said, The Tortoise shell is the same as on other brands. That's a great looking collection of toothpicks, Toby. I really like the large toothpicks.
Feb 29, 2012
Tobias Gibson
How do you like the Cattle Knife, Billy? I'm thinking about pickign that one up. I also like they Scrimshaw series they're doing. I might grab the one with the Raccoons on the handles. Glad you like the toothpicks. I keep asking when they'll be making more in the RR line, but the answer seems to be "Never". I'm still debating on picking up a couple more of the Marbles large toothpicks but it just doesn't seem to be the same. I like it better when the knife I get from Marbles is only branded by Marbles. I think I'm a victim of knowledge. Knowing both brands are made by the same company, in the same factory with the same quality control makes it hard for me to buy a more expensive knife simply because it has a different brand name stamped on it.
Mar 1, 2012
Tobias Gibson
Not Rough Riders but two of my favorite modern Marbles, the Fisherman's tool and the Fly Fisherman. I think the Fly Fisherman is actually an old Case pattern, not sure. But the cool thing about both, is currently there is onle one comapny making them. And that is Marbles.
Mar 1, 2012
In Memoriam
Robert Burris
Billy, who makes that cattle king, I sort of got lost between all the different companies. Looks like a Colt. Thats one ya'll left out and I think its made there to.
Mar 1, 2012
Billy Oneale
Robert, the cattle king was one of Marbles new lines.
Mar 1, 2012
Billy Oneale
Toby, most of the Marbles I have are imports, but were still owned by Marbles. This was the first Marbles that I have bought since SMKW got the rights to the Marbles name, which happened a year or so ago when they went bankrupt. The knife is well made with good fit and finish and good snap. I didn't even see much light through the backsprings.
Mar 1, 2012
Billy Oneale
Here is a new ( to me) Rough Rider Cuttin Tool. I had never seen this one, but I bought it for a good price on ebay. It even came with a storage pouch, just like Marbles brand. ( Imagine that) It's a neat little pattern.
Mar 6, 2012
Billy Oneale
Here are a couple of Moose Rough Riders that I bought recently. Robert, See what you did to me? One is a Once in a Blue Moon Moose that is 3 1/2" in the closed position. The other one is a Blue Swirl Moose that is 4 1/4" in the closed position. Both of them are good knives, especially for the price point.
Mar 6, 2012
Billy Oneale
I almost forgot my new Stoneworx knife. This one is a 2 7/8" lockback Barlow. I guess that Rough Rider decided to add some new patterns, since this is RR1164
Mar 6, 2012
In Memoriam
Robert Burris
Billy, I love Barlows, and the fancier the better and that looks like a fancy one. The Moose's are nice, check out the swedges on the top of the blades, something some expensive knives seem to have forgotten. Once you start Moose hunting you just can't stop...lol
Mar 7, 2012
tom white
ever one who buy's rough riders get all the stag they made heard little bird told me
Mar 7, 2012
Tobias Gibson
Billy, I also had to jump on the baby barlow LB. Grabbed it and the Armour-hide Tiny Toothpick at the same time. I had no intention of buying but when Knives Live offered the free KLTV/SMKW church key to go with a purchase for free, on top of $5 shipping on any order, I had to go for it.
PS, I'm also a person who thinks they need to re-release the armor hides as Armadillo jigged bone. The whole samari thing is just too steel warrior for me. And while I think Steel Warriors are a decent knife, I don't want the lines between RR and Frost to get blurred.
Mar 7, 2012
In Memoriam
Robert Burris
I love those fancy Barlows. I wish their toothpicks were larger. I am missing alot not veiwing their TV show.
Mar 7, 2012
Tobias Gibson
Robert,
You and me both on the toothpicks. They only make 4 or5 four inch toothpicks and only 5 five inch toothpicks. I've got around 8 or soo of the babies but i really like the standard and the large toothpicks.
We need to start a petition for more large frame Rough Rider Toothpicks.
Toby
Mar 7, 2012
In Memoriam
Robert Burris
They read this forum daily my friend, don't think they don't. We don't need a petition just get more people to sound off. The tooth picks I've gotten are maybe 4 inch and on the light side. They need a full size.
Mar 7, 2012
Jan Carter
I would also like to see a full sized toothpick please. In Tobacco bone if I could
Mar 7, 2012
J.J. Smith III
I saw them, but thought the price was 14.99.
Mar 24, 2012
Tobias Gibson
Haven't posted for a while. Many of you already know I made it down to SMKW a week or so ago. I actually tried not to buy any Rough Riders figuring I could buy them later. Still I had to visit the booth. As I was there I saw the Once in a blue moon 5 inch lockback. I really don't care much for the 5 inch LB but I saw this one and it started my RR spending spree. I'll post others later.
Nice packaging and really nice nylon pouch with horizontal and vertical carry options.
Nice reverse frosting, very nice dye job, very positive lock, and terrific profile with the swedge on the blade and slanted bolsters.
Another vier of etch and the swedge on the blade. The knife has a slimmer profile than my Bear & Son 5 inch LB (my only other 5 in lockback) but still feels great in the hand. The RR 1192 goes for $11.95. At that price it is a steal. If you're a fan of 5 inch LB or just want to see if you like the pattern, I'd say snatch this one up.
Mar 30, 2012
Jan Carter
Great job Tobias, cant wait to see what all came home
Apr 1, 2012
In Memoriam
Robert Burris
Well I see that this month they have a large toothpick in the RR line, part #RR917. Thanks SMKW for the knife.
Apr 11, 2012
Tobias Gibson
That would be the Stoneworx Toothpick. I got one of those the first time around and it was terrific. f anyone picks it up let me know what you think. what I like most about it is that is has the most Turquoise in it. Most of the others Stoneworx knives run on the Red Jasper side.
Apr 11, 2012
robert benton
i have not posted in a while but i recently picked up a colt ct323 large moose in brown stag bone, i am very impressed with this knife very well built it is a bit larger than th rr moose which is next on my list any one else have one of the colts.
Apr 14, 2012
Billy Oneale
Apr 14, 2012
J.J. Smith III
Found this on YouTube. Carver talking abour Rough Rider knives.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5KaeWq5w4U&feature=relmfu
Apr 15, 2012
Tobias Gibson
Nice that he is plugging RR but he doesn't seem to know much about pocket knives. The buck is a 420HC and isn't too bad a knife. I'll agree it is more due to name recognition that it cost more than a Rough Rider. Here is a nice review Rough Rider vs Eye Brand: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xO4uGeDEzE0
Apr 15, 2012
J.J. Smith III
She's a carver, not a collector. For general use 420 is fine, but the 440 that is used in RR is appearantly closer to the specs in a fixed carver. As much sharpening as I do on my whittlers, RR's hold up among the top 3.
Apr 16, 2012