The blade Pattern that started me collecting was the wharncliff. The Case Classic 55 patterns with the wharncliff blades secured me as "hooked". It is said the blade pattern was developed by Lord Wharncliff...Lord Wharncliffe thought up the concept from the want of
"..a knife that is more for cutting, than poking.."
This novel concept later developed in the Americas, with "hawkbill" & "sheepsfoot" blade configurations
@Jan - I'm with you -- the Wharncliffe is prob my single favorite blade shape. And, we're not alone, there are apparently a large group of knife user that consider the W/cliffe the most useful profile. It's just that so many people think the clip shape is sexy ...and everyone wants to, at least, pretend that they might just have to skin a big buck later on in the day.
@Ivars -- That IS a tasty little four-blader. I've always been partial to miniatures. And, truth be told, most of the time the blade of our knives are way longer than they need to be. How often do find yourself choking down on the blade -- actually wrapping your forefinger and thumb on the ricasso for better control.
Yesterday I decided my life wasn't complicated enough and that, besides riggers, I should also collect "horeseman's knives" (maybe I'll define that as anything with a "hoof pick" ??).
My wife and I don't do horses but doe have a flock of sheep whose feet require attention several times a year so I already own a few "hoof pick" folders.
This is a multi-blade knife I bought new last year on from The Original Horse Tack Company via Amazon.com. (the comapny(?) name Happy Tack is also mentioned.
There are no identifying stamps on this knife whatsoever. If anyone knows anything about it I'd appreciate you sharing!
But my real reason for posting here is that I'm wondering what to call this pattern: just multi-blade? it's not really a Multi-Tool (makes me think of the all pliers-based" Leatherman type thingies).
I;m relativeky new to knives -- pattern names have been confusing -- lots of patterns have more than one knife: e.g. jack, rope knife, rope jack, etc. etc.
Any guidance from those wiser and more experienced than my own self will be very welcome!
Thanks Ivars: Maybe you could teach your Grandad to sharpen his knives using a stone -- the diamond hones these days are really fast-working -- he probably just likes all the sparks! LOL
Re that Wostenholm -- yeah, me too, 699.00 (assuming US$?) is way outside my comfort limit. For the time being I'm mostly researching the currently available "hoof" knives.
How did you know the "HORSEMANS GROOMS FARRIERS HOOF KNIFE TOOL COMB PICK" was made in Pakistan? I've looked all over mine and cannot find any markings. And yes, VERY HARD to open most of the blades. I almost tore off a fingernail. I bought a "knife opener" from Case a few months ago and use that with this knife.
On the back of the catalog was company adress: city country: Pakistan. And on knife was a sticker (made in pakistan). Thats why I think it is made in pakistan. I don't know maybe my hoof is a clone of some US made hoof?
No, you're probably correct. I read an article about the cutlery industry in Pakistan -- apparently quite active and accomplished. It's a shame that they're not pround enough of their work to want to sign it by stamping their tangs.
BTW: I wonder if there's some fix for a too-hard-to-open knife other than taking it apart and filing some metal away. I oiled mine and that helpd a bit.
@ Jim .. use with caution .. head to the local auto-parts store & pick up some valve lapping compound .. it often comes packaged in 2 grits .. fine & finer .. introduce a small bit of the "finer" into the slipjoint .. work the slipjoint a bunch of times .. you'll know when to stop.
Now .. the fun difficult critical part .. remove all the abrasive valve lapping compound. Brake cleaner has been suggested .. beware the scales !!
Note: If the abrasive is not fully removed .. it will continue abrading !!!
Jim said:
BTW: I wonder if there's some fix for a too-hard-to-open knife other than taking it apart and filing some metal away. I oiled mine and that helpd a bit.
Now .. the fun difficult critical part .. remove all the abrasive valve lapping compound. Brake cleaner has been suggested .. beware the scales !!
Yeah, I bet brake cleaner could play havoc with plastics and wood finishes. I'd maybe try that, introducing it with a syringe right into the joint, and then, once most of the lapping compound was flushed out and/or "put into solution", use good old soap and water in large quantity and pressure.
I'm just now seeing that this Palistani horseman's knife is replaceable for just US$9.00 so there's not much to lose.
@ Ivars: I didn't have have a match -- I quit smoking 11 years ago -- but inserted a small piece of "business card" and it did work like you say.
Note: I'd only class the short punch blade as non-openable. I'm wondering if that has something to do with the fact that it shares a backspring with the sharpened hoof pick at the other end. It might just be a little easier to open the punch when the hook is already opened.
This is a traditional Ettrick shaped knife the pattern is thought to originate in the village of Ettrick in Scotland. They are still made in Sheffield and you can see variations and other traditional blade types on sheffield-gb.com
A gentleman’s multi bladed pocket knife. The side plates on both sides are silver and hallmarked. The silver parts are hallmarked Q for 1899 with a Chester hallmark - not Sheffield Desormeaux Saunders & James Francis Hollings - Frank Shepherd. Chester, UK silver hallmarks on http://www.sheffield-gb.com
One looks like a small cigar cutter, the spike might be to clean out your pipe. Very hard to hard to find these folding multi-blade knives. One essential book still in print is the Sheffield Assay Office Register which deals with silver hallmarks in Sheffield. http://www.sheffield-gb.com You can still find fruit knives but not many multi-blade pocket knives older than 1900 are around.
Well Ken, I did what I would do for anyone if I couldnt answer it. LOL, I asked! No record of when the first was produced but this G.SAVAGE & SONS is from around 1840 so we at least know the pattern dates back that far
Okay, folks! This group has been dormant for too long! Lets help Ivars kick-start this group! Let's everybody take a few minutes and invite five or ten of our friends to this group. Most people either collect by pattern or brand. It's crazy that a group devoted to pattern collecting only has 30 members! I can think of at least 50 patterns within my collection alone! This group needs more members!
As for the fifty patterns:
Automatics
Balisong
Barlow
Bartender
Bowie
Camp
Canoe
Canittler
Caping
Cheetah
Clasp knife
Coke Bottle
Congress
Copperhead
Cotton Samplers
Doctor
Douk Douk
Easy Open
Elephant Toenail
Farrier
Farmer’s Work Knife (Sodbusters)
Fillet
Fish Knife
Folding Hunter
Grafting
Hawkbills
Hobos
Hunters
Jack Knives
Karambits
Kukris
Linesman
Machete
Marlin Spike
Moose
Mushroom
Muskrats
Navaja Cuchillo
Out the Front
Peanut
Penknives
Picnics
Rope Knives
Stockmans
Sunfish
Toothpicks/Ticklers
Toothpicks –fixed blades
Skinners
Ulu
Whittlers
And that doesn't even include the variations within the patterns!
Way to motivate Tobias...and I agree. So I became a Bowie Buddy....I just don't go around declaring that in public. Sort of looses something in translation outside of iKC.
Thanks for the rally talk. We needed that!
I like what you did here in naming the the fifty patterns within your collections. I need this kind of visual. So to remove a sense of semantics, I have created a hierarchy to help me make sure we don't double up on "patterns". This is for a visual assistance only, not intended for a debate:
Here is the Knives according to Lars Hierarchy:
Knife
Fixed Blade / Brand
Type of Fixed Blade - design intent (Combat, Hunting, Skinning, Butcher/Chef, Dagger, Bowie, etc) Broad categories
Sub-type of Fixed Blade - frame style (Mini, Extreme, Nessmuk, Sub-Hilt, etc.) Defined categories
Feature set (type of steel, type of handle material, blade type, features, etc.) Specific categories
Knife
Folder / Brand
Type of Folder - design intent (Multipurpose, fishing, hunting, etc.) Broad categories
Sub-type of Folder - frame style (Automatics, Barlow, Congress, Coke Bottle, etc.) Defined categories
Feature set (type of steel, type of handle material, blade type, number of blades, features, etc.) Specific categories
Under each of these we add Variations. Now we have taken your 50 patterns and tripled the amount of possibilities...if not more!
here are a few that have a special spot in my collection..the humpback whittlers.i was able to pick up the queen tool steel the other day and the stag is gorgeous..wish the pics were better, but. i try.
thankyou steve... i have always loved whittlers.. and these little guys are one of my favorite whittler patterns. I dont know why.. something about the shape. just like the look of them.
We've got six new members today. Once we hit 60 new members, I'll rummage through my collection ans see what i can cough up for a prize. Spread the word guys and gals, Spring is in the air and I want to give away another knife!
Jeff, I just saw those whittlers. You're making me think about collecting another pattern. It's go to be hard "Coping" with the additional anxiety! (time to duck and cover!)
You may need to duck and cover Tobias, listing whittlers last in your list.
(And don't start with that alphebitical stuff.) Lol, and just look at the beautiful humpback WHITTLERS that Jeff shared...
Mea Culpa, J.J. It I listed them by the number in my collection I'm guessing whittlers would be within the top ten, possibly even the top five! We won't say what pattern would at the bottom but it begins with the letter "T" and it ends with the type of music Will Smith and J. Jazzy Jeff won a Grammy for! (Ducking and covering again!)
In Memoriam
D ale
I like unique cutlery stamps .. 'n as a result ..just never concentrated on a specific pattern .. so have a variety instead !!!
Here's an odd none .. the Catt 3-W
May 2, 2011
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D ale
May 2, 2011
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D ale
May 2, 2011
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D ale
May 2, 2011
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Ivars

justMay 2, 2011
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D ale
May 2, 2011
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D ale
Ivars .. here's one for you .. they average about 3" in length
.. a pedicure instrument !!!
May 2, 2011
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D ale
These are similar .. the desciminating feature between these & a corn razor are a stop @ 180 degrees
.. and many lock in the open position ..
... a scalpel or two ..
May 2, 2011
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D ale
Here's a quill knife ..
w/ a late 19th century stampingMay 3, 2011
Jan Carter
Dale,
Those are some nice peices. I like the different patterns also
May 28, 2011
Jan Carter
The blade Pattern that started me collecting was the wharncliff. The Case Classic 55 patterns with the wharncliff blades secured me as "hooked". It is said the blade pattern was developed by Lord Wharncliff...Lord Wharncliffe thought up the concept from the want of
"..a knife that is more for cutting, than poking.."
This novel concept later developed in the Americas, with "hawkbill" & "sheepsfoot" blade configurations
or so they say....
Jun 8, 2011
J.J. Smith III
Howdy Ivars, Make it 11 now.
I'm with Jan. I started "Collecting" with the CASE Seahorse. Up till then I just accumulated...
Jun 8, 2011
Jim Child
@Jan - I'm with you -- the Wharncliffe is prob my single favorite blade shape. And, we're not alone, there are apparently a large group of knife user that consider the W/cliffe the most useful profile. It's just that so many people think the clip shape is sexy ...and everyone wants to, at least, pretend that they might just have to skin a big buck later on in the day.
@Ivars -- That IS a tasty little four-blader. I've always been partial to miniatures. And, truth be told, most of the time the blade of our knives are way longer than they need to be. How often do find yourself choking down on the blade -- actually wrapping your forefinger and thumb on the ricasso for better control.
Jun 10, 2011
Jim Child
Happy Father's Day!
Yesterday I decided my life wasn't complicated enough and that, besides riggers, I should also collect "horeseman's knives" (maybe I'll define that as anything with a "hoof pick" ??).
My wife and I don't do horses but doe have a flock of sheep whose feet require attention several times a year so I already own a few "hoof pick" folders.
This is a multi-blade knife I bought new last year on from The Original Horse Tack Company via Amazon.com. (the comapny(?) name Happy Tack is also mentioned.
There are no identifying stamps on this knife whatsoever. If anyone knows anything about it I'd appreciate you sharing!
But my real reason for posting here is that I'm wondering what to call this pattern: just multi-blade? it's not really a Multi-Tool (makes me think of the
all pliers-based" Leatherman type thingies).
I;m relativeky new to knives -- pattern names have been confusing -- lots of patterns have more than one knife: e.g. jack, rope knife, rope jack, etc. etc.
Any guidance from those wiser and more experienced than my own self will be very welcome!
Jun 19, 2011
Jim Child
Re that Wostenholm -- yeah, me too, 699.00 (assuming US$?) is way outside my comfort limit. For the time being I'm mostly researching the currently available "hoof" knives.
How did you know the "HORSEMANS GROOMS FARRIERS HOOF KNIFE TOOL COMB PICK" was made in Pakistan? I've looked all over mine and cannot find any markings. And yes, VERY HARD to open most of the blades. I almost tore off a fingernail. I bought a "knife opener" from Case a few months ago and use that with this knife.
Jun 20, 2011
Jim Child
No, you're probably correct. I read an article about the cutlery industry in Pakistan -- apparently quite active and accomplished. It's a shame that they're not pround enough of their work to want to sign it by stamping their tangs.
BTW: I wonder if there's some fix for a too-hard-to-open knife other than taking it apart and filing some metal away. I oiled mine and that helpd a bit.
Jun 20, 2011
In Memoriam
D ale
@ Jim .. use with caution .. head to the local auto-parts store & pick up some valve lapping compound .. it often comes packaged in 2 grits .. fine & finer .. introduce a small bit of the "finer" into the slipjoint .. work the slipjoint a bunch of times .. you'll know when to stop.
Now .. the fun difficult critical part .. remove all the abrasive valve lapping compound. Brake cleaner has been suggested .. beware the scales !!
Note: If the abrasive is not fully removed .. it will continue abrading !!!
Jim said:
BTW: I wonder if there's some fix for a too-hard-to-open knife other than taking it apart and filing some metal away. I oiled mine and that helpd a bit.
Jun 21, 2011
Jim Child
Yeah, I bet brake cleaner could play havoc with plastics and wood finishes. I'd maybe try that, introducing it with a syringe right into the joint, and then, once most of the lapping compound was flushed out and/or "put into solution", use good old soap and water in large quantity and pressure.
I'm just now seeing that this Palistani horseman's knife is replaceable for just US$9.00 so there's not much to lose.
@ Ivars: I didn't have have a match -- I quit smoking 11 years ago -- but inserted a small piece of "business card" and it did work like you say.
Jun 21, 2011
In Memoriam
D ale
@ Jim .. soap, H2O, & pressurized air wk great .. but require additional patience. In absence of patience .. use pressurized solvent.
I used valve lapping compound to loosen this knife up .. been EDC 'ing it since. It was originally "break a nail" stiff .
Jun 21, 2011
KnifeMaker
M. Carpenter
This is a traditional Ettrick shaped knife the pattern is thought to originate in the village of Ettrick in Scotland. They are still made in Sheffield and you can see variations and other traditional blade types on sheffield-gb.com
Aug 12, 2012
KnifeMaker
M. Carpenter
A gentleman’s multi bladed pocket knife. The side plates on both sides are silver and hallmarked. The silver parts are hallmarked Q for 1899 with a Chester hallmark - not Sheffield Desormeaux Saunders & James Francis Hollings - Frank Shepherd. Chester, UK silver hallmarks on http://www.sheffield-gb.com
Aug 12, 2012
KnifeMaker
M. Carpenter
One looks like a small cigar cutter, the spike might be to clean out your pipe. Very hard to hard to find these folding multi-blade knives. One essential book still in print is the Sheffield Assay Office Register which deals with silver hallmarks in Sheffield. http://www.sheffield-gb.com You can still find fruit knives but not many multi-blade pocket knives older than 1900 are around.
Aug 12, 2012
Jan Carter
OK, I am looking for some information on the gunstock. Obviously it got it's name by the shape but when did it begin? Anyone know who designed it?
Mar 14, 2014
Ken Spielvogel
Jan, not sure about your Q's, but the Gunstock is one of my favorite patterns.
Mar 14, 2014
Jan Carter
Well Ken, I did what I would do for anyone if I couldnt answer it. LOL, I asked! No record of when the first was produced but this G.SAVAGE & SONS is from around 1840 so we at least know the pattern dates back that far
Mar 15, 2014
Ken Spielvogel
WOW that is one old Gunstock.- Did you get that at the Dalton Show, wonder where it was made.
Mar 15, 2014
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Robert Burris
Heck I forgot about this group. Lots of pattern collectors out there.
Jun 29, 2014
In Memoriam
Robert Burris
Miss Jan, you have this site looking good. Where's them Pattern lovers.
Jun 29, 2014
Jan Carter
We are getting there Robert. When I have everything moved over I will do an alphabetical listing with links like I did in the Box
*****Thank you*****
Jun 29, 2014
Tobias Gibson
Okay, folks! This group has been dormant for too long! Lets help Ivars kick-start this group! Let's everybody take a few minutes and invite five or ten of our friends to this group. Most people either collect by pattern or brand. It's crazy that a group devoted to pattern collecting only has 30 members! I can think of at least 50 patterns within my collection alone! This group needs more members!
As for the fifty patterns:
And that doesn't even include the variations within the patterns!
Mar 13, 2015
Lars Ray
Way to motivate Tobias...and I agree. So I became a Bowie Buddy....I just don't go around declaring that in public. Sort of looses something in translation outside of iKC.
Thanks for the rally talk. We needed that!
I like what you did here in naming the the fifty patterns within your collections. I need this kind of visual. So to remove a sense of semantics, I have created a hierarchy to help me make sure we don't double up on "patterns". This is for a visual assistance only, not intended for a debate:
Here is the Knives according to Lars Hierarchy:
Knife
Fixed Blade / Brand
Type of Fixed Blade - design intent (Combat, Hunting, Skinning, Butcher/Chef, Dagger, Bowie, etc) Broad categories
Sub-type of Fixed Blade - frame style (Mini, Extreme, Nessmuk, Sub-Hilt, etc.) Defined categories
Feature set (type of steel, type of handle material, blade type, features, etc.) Specific categories
Knife
Folder / Brand
Type of Folder - design intent (Multipurpose, fishing, hunting, etc.) Broad categories
Sub-type of Folder - frame style (Automatics, Barlow, Congress, Coke Bottle, etc.) Defined categories
Feature set (type of steel, type of handle material, blade type, number of blades, features, etc.) Specific categories
Under each of these we add Variations. Now we have taken your 50 patterns and tripled the amount of possibilities...if not more!
Mar 13, 2015
jeff
here are a few that have a special spot in my collection..the humpback whittlers.i was able to pick up the queen tool steel the other day and the stag is gorgeous..wish the pics were better, but. i try.


Mar 13, 2015
jeff
thankyou steve... i have always loved whittlers.. and these little guys are one of my favorite whittler patterns. I dont know why.. something about the shape. just like the look of them.
Mar 13, 2015
Tobias Gibson
We've got six new members today. Once we hit 60 new members, I'll rummage through my collection ans see what i can cough up for a prize. Spread the word guys and gals, Spring is in the air and I want to give away another knife!
Mar 13, 2015
Tobias Gibson
Jeff, I just saw those whittlers. You're making me think about collecting another pattern. It's go to be hard "Coping" with the additional anxiety! (time to duck and cover!)
Mar 13, 2015
J.J. Smith III
(And don't start with that alphebitical stuff.) Lol, and just look at the beautiful humpback WHITTLERS that Jeff shared...
Mar 13, 2015
Tobias Gibson
Mea Culpa, J.J. It I listed them by the number in my collection I'm guessing whittlers would be within the top ten, possibly even the top five! We won't say what pattern would at the bottom but it begins with the letter "T" and it ends with the type of music Will Smith and J. Jazzy Jeff won a Grammy for! (Ducking and covering again!)
Mar 14, 2015