Johnny, I was actually considering a build up, probably on the spring where the kick rests. A small piece of steel welded to the spring. This would most likely require disasembly of the knife. Is that ever done?
I have heard of some folks "peening" the kick to make it slightly longer or wider. It's not something that I would attempt but it can be done if you are good at that type of thing.
I agree with Johnny's recommendation to sharpen the edge until it no lomger contacts the backspring. Probably the most practical option aside from sending it to GEC.
I really don't see that as a viable option, but I am not very handy, so I wouldn't attempt something like that myself.
If you problem is indeed blade contact on the spring, I think sending it to GEC is the best option. They are just gonna sharpen the blade down so they don't touch anymore. They will do it in a more professional manor and have the equipment to polish it up and make it as good as new.
I was actually considering a build up, probably on the spring where the kick rests. A small piece of steel welded to the spring
Not possible. Any sort of welding would ruin the heat treatment of the spring. You would end up with a broken spring in short order. In addition, metal used in the rod is not the same as the spring. Once welded you can not retemper because of the diference in material. Even if you did retemper the spring it would break at the weld.
The problem will go away after a few sharpening sessions. Its not really an issue anyway if you intend to use the knife.
I have never taken a knife apart then put it back together. As a kid I took apart about everything I could and still not be sold to Gypsy's by my parents. I am going along with Johnny 2shoes. If you love this knife, have a pro repair it. If you don't want to spend the money then place it somewhere you can't find it, something I do on a regular basis, so you will not see it and fret about the defect.
I know there are sellers on ebay who buy broken knives for the parts then rebuild Case and other collectables and sell them as used without telling the buyers they have been repaired. This is why I always ask if the knife had been repaired. It can be done...just if you want to pay the do-ra-me.
Use a piece of stiif leather, the sort that moccasin laces are made of. Cut a small bit of it to size and stuff it down on top of the spring where the blade hits. This will keep the blade off the spring until it gets worn enough so as not to hit the high points.
Hi all, I have a sunfish with a distinctive ripple on the main blade.(see pic.) I see that to one degree or another on many of the blades. There more noticeable on high gloss blades. I call it a ripple or a wrinkle for lack of a better word. How would you describe it.
Jan, It's not a major issue with this knife. It's a Ben Hogan. It just seems set in there kinda low (see pic). It even buries the nail mark a little. There's no blade to spring contact though.
Jan, P.S. I suppose I could ask GEC to remove a little from the top of the frame to fully expose the nail mark. The stag is a little below the liner anyway. Evening that out would be a bonus.
David, How did you paste my earlier message onto your comment. (in italics )
Easy. Copy and paste the quote, type your message, highlight the part that the quote, use the blockquote button in the tool box menu above the message box.
Dana, it seems to me that you're pointing out the blade forward nail nick as being low, but on that stag model you have a foot long "long pull" just behind it, so it would seem that you have plenty of room and a choice of where you want to pull from? I have to say that for myself on the Ben Hogans I prefer the single nail nick Tidioute or the single long pull Northfields over all of the double pulls on this blade. For me it's a beautiful clean and skinny blade, and there's not enough room on the blade for a double pull without mucking it up. But hey, don't get me wrong, I'm just expressing my opinion and any criticism is directed to the design decisions made at GEC, not to you. And like I said above, it's a skinny, beautiful, and wonderfully manageable blade. The Ben Hogan model is brilliantly designed and probably has one of the best hand feels and fit of all of the GEC models, at least for my hands. Good choice.
Hi again, A lot of these GEC knives I have been buying don't seem to have much of an edge on them. The edges are very small. Is that due to a wide angle sharpening. I'm still a novice at sharpening. what angles do GEC use and recommend.
I believe Edge angle is for the preference of the user. I use a 25 degree angle when sharpening, but I know a lot of guys who use a 17. It really just depends on what kind of an edge you want. I am not sure how you sharpen your knives, but I use a Lanksy and I really like the job it does.
Also, I am not sure of GECs angle when sharpening, but you could e-mail Christine Tucker, I'm sure she would know.
At the GEC Factory,they put the finished edge on a knife by eye,freehand. They put a "Factory Edge" on the knife as the last step in manufacture. The Factory Edge is sharp enough to cut a sheet of paper. Individual knife owners are then free to put a lasting edge of their choice on the blade.
I know we have put alot out there for you to think about for sharpening systems and I agree with the guys. Both those systems are wonderful. If your looking to sharpen your own skills at it. This video is pretty basic and easy to follow
Well it is not the newest and it is not an EDC, so I thought I would put it here. This is the 488210EC St Patty's Day. So happy St. Patty's Day everyone
Jan, that's one you don't see every day! I know a collector (not me either) that is looking for one of those! Yours is a nice one! There are so many GEC's that I overlook at first and then they grow on me and by the time that I decide to get one they're long gone!
J2S - that is a way cool shield on the #45! I've been trying to decide if these are a "gotta have it" knife or not. Will get at least one to check out anyway. It kinda stinks to have to buy all of our knives mail order and not be able to look at them and hold them before making up your mind. I just can't decide if the saw blade is a good fit or not.
Johnny great minds must think alike. I just was on GEC's forum and commented on it there too. I am liking it in micarta and look forward to the other handle materials too! I does look pretty cool and I will end up with one or more but I still really want a traditional camp knife. GEC thinks out of the box alot and I like that about them but sometimes I wish they could just give us what we ask for. It's not like I'm not going to buy more knives once I get some of the ones that I really want!!!
And I hope you alos see what a much better made knife the GEC Northfield 23 is. I really hope that they reissue the 23 in spiral cut buffalo horn, that's a knife I want, anybody out there have one for me?
I have two #23L's but would not likely part with them. Planned on giving them to my two sons someday (when they plant me). I don't have good pics but here goes Dana.
Robert, I hear that it IS on tap but when is a good question. I'm surprised that they didn't run them at the same time as the Calf Ropers. But the Lumberjacks are coming out soon and also CK's black delrin sodbuster SFO. Also the Wrangler and the Geppetto with a clip blade. The Wrangler looks odd and seems a bit of a waste of time, materials, energy and money to me but that is just my opinion. I don't plan on buying a single one of these. I am a bit tired of the same old frame, flipped and with the blades moved around. That's real creative....Lately I have started to question if GEC really does listen to what we want. They did make Luca's request of a single blade Whaler but that was easy enough by just removing the secondary blade. I'm curious if one were to go through all of the posts of knives that we would like to see - how many of them have come to fruition? Not enough.
Dana, this knife is different from the Red Spiral Cut Proto that Jan showed that was part of a raffle for the Wounded Warrior Project at the last Rendezvous. This ia a one of nine short run in black buffalo. Luca scored one of these too I believe.
Why did you have to post that beaut of a holy grail knife? I DID want to win that one now. I hope that the fella that won it appreciates it as much as most of the folks here would (like me for example!). I am still disappointed about not being on the receiving end of that one. The black buffalo spiral cut did help a bit but I am a bigger red buffalo fan. The Rendezvous knifes which have not been big sellers in the past went fast too to a lucky, select few.
That is truely one of the reasons we drive so far once a year. I am a true homebody but cant pass up the oppotunity to spend time with friends and get unique knives also. Join us this year. We promise to share
johnny twoshoes
I suppose it could Dana, but I don't see it getting worn down to heavily. That is unless you grind it down.
What is the problem with your knife?
Mar 4, 2012
Dana Mayo
Johnny, I was actually considering a build up, probably on the spring where the kick rests. A small piece of steel welded to the spring. This would most likely require disasembly of the knife. Is that ever done?
Mar 4, 2012
Railsplitter
I have heard of some folks "peening" the kick to make it slightly longer or wider. It's not something that I would attempt but it can be done if you are good at that type of thing.
I agree with Johnny's recommendation to sharpen the edge until it no lomger contacts the backspring. Probably the most practical option aside from sending it to GEC.
Mar 4, 2012
johnny twoshoes
I really don't see that as a viable option, but I am not very handy, so I wouldn't attempt something like that myself.
If you problem is indeed blade contact on the spring, I think sending it to GEC is the best option. They are just gonna sharpen the blade down so they don't touch anymore. They will do it in a more professional manor and have the equipment to polish it up and make it as good as new.
Mar 4, 2012
David Adkins
Not possible. Any sort of welding would ruin the heat treatment of the spring. You would end up with a broken spring in short order. In addition, metal used in the rod is not the same as the spring. Once welded you can not retemper because of the diference in material. Even if you did retemper the spring it would break at the weld.
The problem will go away after a few sharpening sessions. Its not really an issue anyway if you intend to use the knife.
Mar 4, 2012
Clint Thompson
I have never taken a knife apart then put it back together. As a kid I took apart about everything I could and still not be sold to Gypsy's by my parents. I am going along with Johnny 2shoes. If you love this knife, have a pro repair it. If you don't want to spend the money then place it somewhere you can't find it, something I do on a regular basis, so you will not see it and fret about the defect.
I know there are sellers on ebay who buy broken knives for the parts then rebuild Case and other collectables and sell them as used without telling the buyers they have been repaired. This is why I always ask if the knife had been repaired. It can be done...just if you want to pay the do-ra-me.
Mar 4, 2012
David Adkins
Quick fix -
Use a piece of stiif leather, the sort that moccasin laces are made of. Cut a small bit of it to size and stuff it down on top of the spring where the blade hits. This will keep the blade off the spring until it gets worn enough so as not to hit the high points.
Mar 4, 2012
Dana Mayo
David, Fabulous idea.
Mar 4, 2012
Jan Carter
Dana,
I have to go with the majority on this, send it back and let GEC fix it. What knife are you having this issue with?
Mar 4, 2012
Dana Mayo
Hi all, I have a sunfish with a distinctive ripple on the main blade.(see pic.) I see that to one degree or another on many of the blades. There more noticeable on high gloss blades. I call it a ripple or a wrinkle for lack of a better word. How would you describe it.
Mar 4, 2012
Dana Mayo
David, How did you paste my earlier message onto your comment. (in italics )
Mar 4, 2012
Dana Mayo
Jan, It's not a major issue with this knife. It's a Ben Hogan. It just seems set in there kinda low (see pic). It even buries the nail mark a little. There's no blade to spring contact though.
Mar 4, 2012
Dana Mayo
Jan, P.S. I suppose I could ask GEC to remove a little from the top of the frame to fully expose the nail mark. The stag is a little below the liner anyway. Evening that out would be a bonus.
Mar 4, 2012
David Adkins
Easy. Copy and paste the quote, type your message, highlight the part that the quote, use the blockquote button in the tool box menu above the message box.
Mar 4, 2012
Luca Vignelli
Dana, it seems to me that you're pointing out the blade forward nail nick as being low, but on that stag model you have a foot long "long pull" just behind it, so it would seem that you have plenty of room and a choice of where you want to pull from? I have to say that for myself on the Ben Hogans I prefer the single nail nick Tidioute or the single long pull Northfields over all of the double pulls on this blade. For me it's a beautiful clean and skinny blade, and there's not enough room on the blade for a double pull without mucking it up. But hey, don't get me wrong, I'm just expressing my opinion and any criticism is directed to the design decisions made at GEC, not to you. And like I said above, it's a skinny, beautiful, and wonderfully manageable blade. The Ben Hogan model is brilliantly designed and probably has one of the best hand feels and fit of all of the GEC models, at least for my hands. Good choice.
Mar 4, 2012
Dana Mayo
Luca, Funny you should say that as I ordered a Ben Hogan Tidioute Beaver Tail last night.
Mar 5, 2012
Dana Mayo
High Gloss Blade
Mar 5, 2012
Dana Mayo
Hi again, A lot of these GEC knives I have been buying don't seem to have much of an edge on them. The edges are very small. Is that due to a wide angle sharpening. I'm still a novice at sharpening. what angles do GEC use and recommend.
Mar 5, 2012
johnny twoshoes
I believe Edge angle is for the preference of the user. I use a 25 degree angle when sharpening, but I know a lot of guys who use a 17. It really just depends on what kind of an edge you want. I am not sure how you sharpen your knives, but I use a Lanksy and I really like the job it does.
Also, I am not sure of GECs angle when sharpening, but you could e-mail Christine Tucker, I'm sure she would know.
Mar 5, 2012
Bob Andrews
At the GEC Factory,they put the finished edge on a knife by eye,freehand. They put a "Factory Edge" on the knife as the last step in manufacture. The Factory Edge is sharp enough to cut a sheet of paper. Individual knife owners are then free to put a lasting edge of their choice on the blade.
Mar 5, 2012
Jan Carter
Dana,
I know we have put alot out there for you to think about for sharpening systems and I agree with the guys. Both those systems are wonderful. If your looking to sharpen your own skills at it. This video is pretty basic and easy to follow
http://www.wonderhowto.com/how-to-sharpen-pocket-knife-307695/
Mar 5, 2012
Jan Carter
Well it is not the newest and it is not an EDC, so I thought I would put it here. This is the 488210EC St Patty's Day. So happy St. Patty's Day everyone
Mar 5, 2012
Dana Mayo
Thanks for all the help. Love that Guitar Shield.
Mar 5, 2012
johnny twoshoes
Awesome knife Jan and happy ST. Patrick's day to you too.
Mar 6, 2012
johnny twoshoes
Here you go!!!
Mar 6, 2012
johnny twoshoes
I love the shields, but I'm still not sold.
I hope you guys can get some good ones, they do look great.
Mar 6, 2012
Tom Peterson
Jan, that's one you don't see every day! I know a collector (not me either) that is looking for one of those! Yours is a nice one! There are so many GEC's that I overlook at first and then they grow on me and by the time that I decide to get one they're long gone!
J2S - that is a way cool shield on the #45! I've been trying to decide if these are a "gotta have it" knife or not. Will get at least one to check out anyway. It kinda stinks to have to buy all of our knives mail order and not be able to look at them and hold them before making up your mind. I just can't decide if the saw blade is a good fit or not.
Mar 6, 2012
johnny twoshoes
Tom, you should see what Pat has to say about this knife on the GEC forum. If you do you may just end up with one.
Mar 6, 2012
Trand
I gotta say, I wasn't too interested in the Whaler or knives that big but I'm wanting this one. I don't have anything I need it for, but I want it :)
Mar 6, 2012
Bob Andrews
That's the FUN part Trand, getting one when you DON'T need it at all!
Mar 6, 2012
Railsplitter
I like it too!
Mar 6, 2012
Tom Peterson
Johnny great minds must think alike. I just was on GEC's forum and commented on it there too. I am liking it in micarta and look forward to the other handle materials too! I does look pretty cool and I will end up with one or more but I still really want a traditional camp knife. GEC thinks out of the box alot and I like that about them but sometimes I wish they could just give us what we ask for. It's not like I'm not going to buy more knives once I get some of the ones that I really want!!!
Mar 6, 2012
Dana Mayo
Johnny, I see that the Northfield #23 has that same half stop as the Case Back Pocket. I guess that goes along with that style.
Mar 7, 2012
Luca Vignelli
And I hope you alos see what a much better made knife the GEC Northfield 23 is. I really hope that they reissue the 23 in spiral cut buffalo horn, that's a knife I want, anybody out there have one for me?
Mar 7, 2012
In Memoriam
Robert Burris
I think the big hoop la over the 66 moose is just that a bunch of bull. They may never get to it. It's sure a rare patten.
Mar 7, 2012
Dana Mayo
Luca, what does the spiral cut buffalo look like?
Mar 7, 2012
Tom Peterson
Luca,
I have two #23L's but would not likely part with them. Planned on giving them to my two sons someday (when they plant me). I don't have good pics but here goes Dana.
Mar 7, 2012
Tom Peterson
Robert, I hear that it IS on tap but when is a good question. I'm surprised that they didn't run them at the same time as the Calf Ropers. But the Lumberjacks are coming out soon and also CK's black delrin sodbuster SFO. Also the Wrangler and the Geppetto with a clip blade. The Wrangler looks odd and seems a bit of a waste of time, materials, energy and money to me but that is just my opinion. I don't plan on buying a single one of these. I am a bit tired of the same old frame, flipped and with the blades moved around. That's real creative....Lately I have started to question if GEC really does listen to what we want. They did make Luca's request of a single blade Whaler but that was easy enough by just removing the secondary blade. I'm curious if one were to go through all of the posts of knives that we would like to see - how many of them have come to fruition? Not enough.
Mar 7, 2012
Jan Carter
Dana,
I have a pic of one of the spiral's I can share with you
Mar 7, 2012
Jan Carter
To the best of my knowledge there wee only 2 of these created
Mar 7, 2012
Tom Peterson
Dana, this knife is different from the Red Spiral Cut Proto that Jan showed that was part of a raffle for the Wounded Warrior Project at the last Rendezvous. This ia a one of nine short run in black buffalo. Luca scored one of these too I believe.
Mar 7, 2012
Dana Mayo
Tom, Jan, Thanks for great pics.
Mar 7, 2012
Tom Peterson
Jan,
Why did you have to post that beaut of a holy grail knife? I DID want to win that one now. I hope that the fella that won it appreciates it as much as most of the folks here would (like me for example!). I am still disappointed about not being on the receiving end of that one. The black buffalo spiral cut did help a bit but I am a bigger red buffalo fan. The Rendezvous knifes which have not been big sellers in the past went fast too to a lucky, select few.
Mar 7, 2012
Jan Carter
Tom,
That is truely one of the reasons we drive so far once a year. I am a true homebody but cant pass up the oppotunity to spend time with friends and get unique knives also. Join us this year. We promise to share
Mar 7, 2012
Jan Carter
Have you all seen this?
Mar 7, 2012
Jan Carter
WOOOHOOO. I know that some of you have asked about this recently. The 2011 Procustion totals are published.
http://greateasterncutlery.net/blog/information/2011-production-tot...
Mar 8, 2012
Luca Vignelli
Ha! I like that Jan, "procustion", that's a new word I'm going to enjoy using! Love ya!
Mar 8, 2012
Luca Vignelli
Tom, would you consider adopting me? We're the same age, but so what!
Mar 8, 2012
Jan Carter
Luca,
ROFL...Guess I should read it before I hit add comment
Mar 8, 2012
johnny twoshoes
Thanks Jan, too bad I don't have any '11s. : )
Mar 9, 2012