Thank you David, for your contribution. We are glad to have such a great historian as one of our members. Besides our cutting up, education of the knife hobby is so very important.

Case does import their bone which does not surprise me.  The sheer numbers of the scales they do, it works best dyed and jigged before coming into the factory

I think I remember seeing bone being dyed on the Case factory tour, but as Jan said, Case uses so much bone, they probably outsource as well.  As I recall, Case does jigging as well, but perhaps not all the jigging.

Here is a photo of a rail car shipment of bone to the Winterbottom factory. Samuel  Winterbottom is in the front row with the apron and tie.Winterbottom%2C%20Carter%20%26%20Co.-5.jpg

David, Love those old time pictures, thanks for posting.

David,

That pic is just awesome.  Dont even put the bone in boxes...just fill a box car and be done

FOLKS

I hear that Jennie Moore is going to be on Knives Live tonight!

What is knives live?  TV show?

Jack,

SMKW (Smoky Mountain Knife Works) [smkw.com] sells knives on a TV show - similar to Cutlery Corner (Frost Cutlery).  Some cable companies carry both shows, and some do not (DISH does, Comcast/Xfinity does not, and I don't think Verizon FIOS does either.  Jan has a link posted here on iKC so you can watch the Friday night show live on your computer, and chat with iKC members at the same time.

So how many of us have the camp knife on order?

OMG the camp knife came in today and I think I am in love

That really is quite a looker you got there, Miss Jan! Love S&M's keystone shield.

Really nice Jan

Very nice, Jan.  Love the Keystone shield.

Good looking S&M!!

Nice...hard to beat stag. Great looking knife.

Love those handles.

And who can go camping without going fishing?

Great fish knife.  Beats my old yellow handled STAG (Ireland) all to pieces.

The first real knife I ever owned was a fish knife. Never caught a "bottle cap fish" though so I never got to use the opener.

That's a pretty fishing knife!

That's a great looking fishing knife, Jan !

Dad bought this knife for me when I was 10 or so.  I remember it clearly.  I have carried it with me everywhere I've gone in life.  I keep stumbling on it even though I haven't used it since kidhood.  Never thought about what brand it was until recently.  It's not a special release knife or anything.  Just a knife that cleaned a few squirrels and cut some fire wood, etc.  Bought around 1969 or so.  Any info is appreciated on model, handle material, blade steel, etc. but not needed.  Just a knife Dad bought me that will belong to my son then grandson someday.  Doubt if it sees any squirrel cleaning though. Tons of squirrels live in my yard actually.  Wife sees them and says "cute".  I look at them and say "dinner". lol  Truth be told, I watch them myself.

Jack, really enjoyed reading your post. That knife is priceless. I don't know anything about it except that knives like that, that have been given or passed down are packed with meaning. They are "The Talking Knives". Thanks for posting and sharing with us.

Great that you still have the knife your dad gave you, and a Queen!  As I recall, cheap foreign knives were getting a foothold here in the late 60's & 70's so your dad had to wade through a bunch of knock-offs to get to the Queen.

Great knife and story, thanks.

The day Dad bought this knife we were going hunting and stopped at this little store where we always stop to get ammo or whatever we need.  I saw this knife, showed it to Dad, he looked it over and set it on the counter.  Talk about a happy kid. :) A new rifle wouldn't have made me happier. :)  Funny what we remember.

Nice old fixed blade Jack! Is that a #85?

Craig, I have no idea what # it is.  What you see in the picture is all I know.  I threw it in my tool bag so I will be using it now.  Haven't used it since I was a kid. Well, I'll be using it when someone (wife) forces me to get the tool bag out. lol  How she comes up with the crap she want's done I'll never know. Does anyone feel my terror?!  lol

It resembles the #85 pattern pretty close.  Is the blade roughly 3 inches long?  Overall around 6 3/8 inches long?  If so, it is the #85 bird/trout hunting knife.

Blade is 4" and overall is 7 3/4".  I think I'll start laying a ruler down with knives.  Probably a good way to give more info about a knife in a picture.  This was brought up about  pictures I took recently and sounds like a good default addition to pictures.

Jack, It does help.  Sometimes I will put an object that we all know the size of  next to knife, just for comparision

Does anyone know of a list of pattern numbers and what they are for Queen?  I can not seem to find one online

I have never seen a listing of pattern numbers for Queen. Neither have I seen a pattern number stamped on a knife. The only way to approximate date of manufacture is the blade stamping except for the years of 1972 &1976.

Jan, I emailed you a list that I keep on my computer.  It had the old pattern # list.  I'm not sure how relevant it is with Queen knives released in the last 5 years, as some numbers seem to be reassigned.

Thanks for the Queen Pattern Guide, Ashley.

Well excellent!  Thank you Ashley!  So now we know the current numbers.  Carl has sent me what he has for the older Queens and David Clark will share what he has.  I am going to take all the info we get and start a page here on the group with the info so we keep it without having to look all over

Thanks to all who contribute to this list of Queen pattern numbers.

Jan, I am looking forward to the complete listing when you post it.

Thank you very much.

http://www.iknifecollector.com/group/queen-cutlery-company-hosted-b...

This is what we have so far :)

Great resource listing.  Thank you very much.

Thanks a lot!

I should research my knife books before I comment in the future. My comment yesterday is grossly wrong about Queen pattern numbers. The "American Premium Guide to Knives & Razors" 6th edition by Jim Sargent has over 90 pages on Queen & Schatt & Morgan Knives, including history blade markings, pictures, pattern numbers and value. The copyright date on this book is 2004.

So I want to play.....want do you want to see Queen/Schatt & Morgan make next???  Tell me your dreams! 

I like the oddball stuff.  How about a trapper pattern, in smoked pearl handles, with a razor blade for the secondary blade.  And a nice script font etching on the hollow grind blade that says "Schatt & Morgan".   oooooooo   I want one!

How about a limited run of the good old fashioned Texas Toothpick aka the fishing knife with the two blades 1 clip and one with scale and hook remover tip.  Another good one would be a less expensive true scout knife that we dealers could push as the holidays are coming and the only semi scout knives out there for American Scouts come from "Offshore"

This is an easy one for me.

My wish is for a top of the line Schatt & Morgan, "File & Wire Tested",  2 blade #06 Teardrop Jack, with Spear and Pen blades in ATS-34 steel and Rogers jigged bone covers.  Similar to the S. & M. #042206, File & Wire Series II, number II, released back in 1999.  Those were great knives, and I carry one everyday.

How about a new knife for the S&M Premier series? I'm disgusted that this project seems to have been abandoned.

Bil,

This was recently added to the Quuen page.  Does it mean something is in the works?

http://www.queencutlery.com/SXM_PREMIER.html