Hey Chris
Thanks for joining our community. Take some time to look around, then find you a spot and jump in. If you have any questions, please let me know.
Welcome!
Scott
Hal .. not that bad temp wise here @ the moment .. was HOT a couple wks ago though .. formed a deeper appreciation for the central air .. sure beat the suana outside !!
.. here's a pic of the sharpest .. bar none .. out of the box .. I’ve ever had the pleasure .. that city girl Sweetie of mine picked it up outside of Tokyo when there on business some time ago .. the local folks were EXTREMELY (dare I say oriental) in their accommodation/care for her .. took her downtown to a ??? specialty cutlery store ??? after hours to get this ..
Barring none .. this is to date the sharpest out-of-the-box I’ve ever had the pleasure ..
.. that's a KIYA below .. can't find a state-side source .. any source for that matter .. apparently, KIYA doesn't have shipping services outside Japan .. go figure .. only web site I can find is their home site .. http://www.kiya-hamono.co.jp/
Their site has some different & much more detailed info (grinds, steels, etc) than most US manuf are willing to provide .. possibly a reflection of their (US Manuf) pride in their product or perhaps a display of their comprehensove knowledge base ..
In all fairness .. have to admit ignorance to JTOOL .. came across it while searching for KIYA info .. looked informative .. read it & saved the link for later reference ..
KIYA's hm site .. yeah I know .. can't find an English version ?!?!
.. I've never used the knife .. kind of a sentimental thing ..
Thanks for responding to my comment about maintaining a constant angle when sharpening my handmade knives. My problem relates primarily to the curved portion of the blade. I made a homemade blade grinder using a plan provided by anonther iKC member who used an angle grinder on a pivot arm to grind hollow ground blades, but have had difficulty with grinding the curve and point of the blade, especially on recurve blades. Any advice you can give me will be greatly appreciated. Also, yes, I've tried my hand at restoring pocket knives and military blades, but finding one to restore that's priced right is a real challenge.
Thanks so much for all the great advice and information. Your last comments about the Belgian Coticule stone was way over my head. Where do you get a full sized Coticule stone and some Coticule finger stones? Thanks again for your help.
Halicon .. save some time buddy .. get an 8" (rough) grinding stone spinning @ about 4000 RPM's ...... OK .. you'll burn a Tip or two .. but, it's faster ...
RE: Double Shadow. Hey there. I have some fuctional knives and they get used almost sadly and I have many that aren't. It's not overly valuable but costly enough and at the time probably the most I ever spent on a knife. And no you dont have to shut your big yap nothing wrong with stating your opnion and being curious yes it really is each to their own...and thanks for the buffing recommendation.
Yes most of my knives sit in a display case given to me by the guys I buy my knives from. I used to help them out at shows and their store back when I started out. But yes I do need to spend more time buffing them they deserve it. And yes it is a genuine Hibben not by hand of course but put out by United Cutlery. I want one of his by hand badly but oh well...dreams...
Chris .. thanks for joining our "Knife Repair, Modification, Restoration & Improvement" grp .. we've had a bit of fun there !!
I had a nice run there with my MODIFICATIONS .. personalizing our knives !!!! forum .. and hope to start a discussion centered around the construction of that kit Santa left me .. time permitting .. will see you there !!!!
The Charney stone seems like an absolute must in the knife sharpening world!
I do not have one.Where can I get one?? All my stones are from Europe, one from Belgium, one from Slovakia, others from italy and the Czech Republic. They all work fantastically.
Think I owed you a response before now. (Still a might confused about this whole social networking thing.) Glad the Rikers are of interest. Your message suggested we take this to the PM -prime minister? post meridian? parental medeling?
(Got my email back as undeliverable. Repeats here.)
Hi Chris, Cool on the PM thing. I think I have used up all the brain cells available for things computerish. As to exporting Riker mounts, I have to chat with them in the next day or so, so I'll see just how big a pain in the tuchas it might be for them to do it directly. (Nice people, but ding-a-lings.) As to my shipping them to you, here is what I propose. I'll order them, box them, and let you "import" them to your end. (BTW -where is your end?) Then I'll wait for the shipping label to arrive. I've done this with UPS successfully, and you are right about the bother of paperwork. There are questions UPS's web application asks that apply more to your, (the destination's), laws / procedures than I understand. And thanks for the kind words re. my craftsmanship. Bill
I'm kinda sorta familiar with "work hardening". That is .. I've witnessed it's effects.
Let me do some more checking .. I'm guessing similar "reactions" occur .. perhaps @ a slower rate for wk hardening .. let me check some more & I'll get back to you.
That's interesting .. forging tools @ those low of temps .. is it a slow process ???
Chris .. I think we're talking about similar processes .. your's refined .. mine accidental !!!
work-harden
vb
(Engineering / Metallurgy) (tr) to increase the strength or hardness of (a metal) by a mechanical process, such as tension, compression, or torsion
work-hardeningn
risk of work-hardened tools
Work hardening can cause other problems as well. Tests conducted at Old Sturbridge Village in 1980 showed that the faces of anvils, normally tempered to around 55 on the Rockwell C scale, can work harden to as high as 72 on the Rockwell C scale after many years of hard service. This is a major cause of anvil failure. The face becomes so embrittled by repeated hammering that it eventually chips, spalls, cracks, or breaks away from the body.
Work embrittlement happens to forging hammers as well, and the wise smith retempers his hammers periodically to relive some of the stresses that have built up in them over time. ––Ray Larsen
Always interested in the comments of others, thanks.
I'd love to be able to have and use some of the tools that I've seen. I am, however, just a simple front porch whittler that tends to make do with what I have. I do, though, like a more convex edge for the rough "scraping" that I do to shape a pit.
I also need to ensure that whatever tool I use is ergonomically suitable for my hands. Had Carporal Tunnel surgery on both hands and am dealing with arthritis now. Lot of the tools that are out there have very small handles.
I do get some pleasure in sharpening with an Arkansas oil stone, something about the relaxation of going slow and easy to get the result wanted. Am interested in the European oil stone that you spoke of. Tell me more.
I thought your comments were excellent, but I got excited and bought one on ebay as soon as I posted your picture. I know, childish of me. When it comes I'll take a pic and see what you think of it.
I'm still waiting for my new Higonokami from Japan. In the meantime, here are three other springless pocket knives. Unfortunately, I don't own an old penny knife.
Sheldon knife- Also called "Current," it was patented in 1966 for budding and grafting.
Pat Crawford- I think Pat designed this in the middle 1970's and had it made in Japan.
Boye- A small, dropped-edge folder made of high-quality cast SS and a nickel-silver case.
Chris, I thought I'd drop you a line to make sure you have no intentions of quitting. I know you and Don go into the more technical end of cutlery that leaves most of us way behind. Ya'll need to be a little more patient with us, we don't have the knowledge on the subject ya'll pocess. I hope to learn alot more from you in the future. Stay with us good buddy.
halicon kent gable wanted to know more about knife steels i told him you and dale was the ones to talk two..your friend stephen...buy the way how have you been?
Randy, HHH Knives
Oct 29, 2009
J.J. Smith III
Oct 29, 2009
In Memoriam
Scott King
Thanks for joining our community. Take some time to look around, then find you a spot and jump in. If you have any questions, please let me know.
Welcome!
Scott
Oct 30, 2009
Randy, HHH Knives
Have a Knives day!
Oct 31, 2009
Randy, HHH Knives
Thanks for adding some info to the pics..
Nov 1, 2009
Chris Stookey
Nov 21, 2009
Randy, HHH Knives
Jan 2, 2010
In Memoriam
Scott King
Jan 2, 2010
In Memoriam
D ale
.. here's a pic of the sharpest .. bar none .. out of the box .. I’ve ever had the pleasure .. that city girl Sweetie of mine picked it up outside of Tokyo when there on business some time ago .. the local folks were EXTREMELY (dare I say oriental) in their accommodation/care for her .. took her downtown to a ??? specialty cutlery store ??? after hours to get this ..
Barring none .. this is to date the sharpest out-of-the-box I’ve ever had the pleasure ..
Jul 5, 2010
In Memoriam
D ale
Their site has some different & much more detailed info (grinds, steels, etc) than most US manuf are willing to provide .. possibly a reflection of their (US Manuf) pride in their product or perhaps a display of their comprehensove knowledge base ..
I trust you recognize sarcasm .....
Here's a link you may .. or may not .. appreciate .. http://www.japan-tool.com/hamono/Knife_Polishing/Knife_Polishing.html .. what do ya think ????
Jul 5, 2010
In Memoriam
D ale
KIYA's hm site .. yeah I know .. can't find an English version ?!?!
.. I've never used the knife .. kind of a sentimental thing ..
Jul 5, 2010
In Memoriam
D ale
Dec 26, 2010
Gerald Hines
Jan 2, 2011
In Memoriam
D ale
Jan 2, 2011
Terry Waldele
Hey Halicon,
Thanks for responding to my comment about maintaining a constant angle when sharpening my handmade knives. My problem relates primarily to the curved portion of the blade. I made a homemade blade grinder using a plan provided by anonther iKC member who used an angle grinder on a pivot arm to grind hollow ground blades, but have had difficulty with grinding the curve and point of the blade, especially on recurve blades. Any advice you can give me will be greatly appreciated. Also, yes, I've tried my hand at restoring pocket knives and military blades, but finding one to restore that's priced right is a real challenge.
Jan 2, 2011
In Memoriam
Scott King
Jan 2, 2011
Terry Waldele
Hi Hal,
Thanks so much for all the great advice and information. Your last comments about the Belgian Coticule stone was way over my head. Where do you get a full sized Coticule stone and some Coticule finger stones? Thanks again for your help.
Terry
Jan 4, 2011
In Memoriam
D ale
Jan 4, 2011
In Memoriam
D ale
Halicon .. save some time buddy .. get an 8" (rough) grinding stone spinning @ about 4000 RPM's ...... OK .. you'll burn a Tip or two .. but, it's faster ...
!!! .. JUST KIDDING .. !!!
Jan 12, 2011
In Memoriam
D ale
Jan 12, 2011
KnifeMaker
Waqas Yousaf Farooq
Jan 13, 2011
James "Clifford" Townsend
Jan 13, 2011
James "Clifford" Townsend
Jan 14, 2011
In Memoriam
D ale
Chris .. thanks for joining our "Knife Repair, Modification, Restoration & Improvement" grp .. we've had a bit of fun there !!
I had a nice run there with my MODIFICATIONS .. personalizing our knives !!!! forum .. and hope to start a discussion centered around the construction of that kit Santa left me .. time permitting .. will see you there !!!!
Jan 14, 2011
Jakub Capek
The Charney stone seems like an absolute must in the knife sharpening world!
I do not have one.Where can I get one?? All my stones are from Europe, one from Belgium, one from Slovakia, others from italy and the Czech Republic. They all work fantastically.
Jan 17, 2011
Carl Newton
Jan 21, 2011
Bill Harvey
Hi Christopher,
Think I owed you a response before now. (Still a might confused about this whole social networking thing.) Glad the Rikers are of interest. Your message suggested we take this to the PM -prime minister? post meridian? parental medeling?
Bill
Feb 6, 2011
Bill Harvey
(Got my email back as undeliverable. Repeats here.)
Hi Chris,
Cool on the PM thing. I think I have used up all the brain cells available for things computerish.
As to exporting Riker mounts, I have to chat with them in the next day or so, so I'll see just how big a pain in the tuchas it might be for them to do it directly. (Nice people, but ding-a-lings.) As to my shipping them to you, here is what I propose. I'll order them, box them, and let you "import" them to your end. (BTW -where is your end?) Then I'll wait for the shipping label to arrive. I've done this with UPS successfully, and you are right about the bother of paperwork. There are questions UPS's web application asks that apply more to your, (the destination's), laws / procedures than I understand.
And thanks for the kind words re. my craftsmanship.
Bill
Feb 7, 2011
In Memoriam
D ale
Feb 12, 2011
In Memoriam
D ale
I'm kinda sorta familiar with "work hardening". That is .. I've witnessed it's effects.
Let me do some more checking .. I'm guessing similar "reactions" occur .. perhaps @ a slower rate for wk hardening .. let me check some more & I'll get back to you.
That's interesting .. forging tools @ those low of temps .. is it a slow process ???
Feb 12, 2011
In Memoriam
D ale
Chris .. I think we're talking about similar processes .. your's refined .. mine accidental !!!
work-harden
vb
(Engineering / Metallurgy) (tr) to increase the strength or hardness of (a metal) by a mechanical process, such as tension, compression, or torsion
work-hardening n
risk of work-hardened tools
Work hardening can cause other problems as well. Tests conducted at Old Sturbridge Village in 1980 showed that the faces of anvils, normally tempered to around 55 on the Rockwell C scale, can work harden to as high as 72 on the Rockwell C scale after many years of hard service. This is a major cause of anvil failure. The face becomes so embrittled by repeated hammering that it eventually chips, spalls, cracks, or breaks away from the body.
Work embrittlement happens to forging hammers as well, and the wise smith retempers his hammers periodically to relive some of the stresses that have built up in them over time. ––Ray Larsen
http://primitivepoint.blogspot.com/2010/11/risk-of-work-hardened-to...
A generic info article .. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Work_hardening
Feb 12, 2011
In Memoriam
D ale
Hal
That MARBLE'S SAFETY AXE .. it's a 3-screw #1 .. translation = went out of production in 1903 .. it's a minimum of 108 yrs old.
And the REALLY cool thing is .. it was my maternal Grandfathers !!!!
Money cannot buy .. Hannah (daughter) will have someday
:D:D
Feb 12, 2011
In Memoriam
D ale
(: she knows Hal :)
And .. I just sent her this for camping/hiking .. http://www.iknifecollector.com/photo/albums/tak-fukuta
Feb 12, 2011
J.J. Smith III
Always interested in the comments of others, thanks.
I'd love to be able to have and use some of the tools that I've seen. I am, however, just a simple front porch whittler that tends to make do with what I have. I do, though, like a more convex edge for the rough "scraping" that I do to shape a pit.
I also need to ensure that whatever tool I use is ergonomically suitable for my hands. Had Carporal Tunnel surgery on both hands and am dealing with arthritis now. Lot of the tools that are out there have very small handles.
I do get some pleasure in sharpening with an Arkansas oil stone, something about the relaxation of going slow and easy to get the result wanted. Am interested in the European oil stone that you spoke of. Tell me more.
Feb 17, 2011
Robert Ibold
Mar 30, 2011
Robert Ibold
The Higonokami is so simple in design, as well as handsome. And I have a hunch it is good steel. Think I'll try to add one to my collection.
Mar 31, 2011
Robert Ibold
Apr 1, 2011
Robert Ibold
I'm still waiting for my new Higonokami from Japan. In the meantime, here are three other springless pocket knives. Unfortunately, I don't own an old penny knife.
Sheldon knife- Also called "Current," it was patented in 1966 for budding and grafting.
Pat Crawford- I think Pat designed this in the middle 1970's and had it made in Japan.
Boye- A small, dropped-edge folder made of high-quality cast SS and a nickel-silver case.
Apr 9, 2011
In Memoriam
Robert Burris
May 14, 2011
stephen tungate
Jun 3, 2011
stephen tungate
Jun 5, 2011
Jan Carter
Halicon,
Just checking in. Haven't seen you on lately and wanted to be sure things are going well.
Jul 19, 2011
Jan Carter
Jan 2, 2012
Ron Cooper
Jan 2, 2013
Jan Carter
Jan 2, 2013
Sue OldsWidow
Jan 2, 2013