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2014 iKC knife...TELL ME WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE

The time has come to start the discussion on the 2014 iKC knife.

I would again like to shoot for August/Sept delivery date. Something to remember while we talk about this is that a short run of only 50 or so knives means we need to tie in with a maker that is already running a knife and tweak that one to make it our own. The reason for this is most SFO's require a minimum order of 250 or more. Also I would like to keep it less than $125.00 delivered to you. I have some eyes checking out whats available at a factory or two but always love to hear your ideas. Remember, this is YOUR knife

Here is a pic of the official annual knives we have done so far

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Permalink Reply by Steve Hanner on May 18, 2014 at 12:39

Yes well said, and after all knife companies are allowed to make a slight profit! The 50 or so knives we ask them to produce really is not a huge deal to any of them. They do want to help us, they know us and are willing to work with us.

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In MemoriamPermalink Reply by Robert Burris on May 18, 2014 at 14:38

Well said is right.

We must trust in Miss Jan to bargain a good deal with one of the knife companies. She knows the main companies we want and she has a good idea of the main knives we like. She now has to see which companies will have in production at the right time of year, a knife that will hopefully be one that a majority of members like. I can see her choices will not be a wide variety of patterns. I don't envy her, the job. Good luck.

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Permalink Reply by Billy Oneale on May 18, 2014 at 22:34

I'm with Ron and JJ.

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Permalink Reply by Alexander Noot on May 20, 2014 at 1:41

That's pretty true Rob. 154CM was the american replacement for ATS34.

RWL34 was the European replacement for ATS34. RWL34 is a powder steel however and in a lot of ways superior to 154CM.

So Crucible (company that makes 154CM) came up with a powder variant of their steel called CPM154. (Crucible Powder Mettallurgy 154).

99% of custom makers now use CPM154 where they formerly used 154CM or ATS34. In Europe RWL34 is still very populair.

Robert Burris said:

I heard a while back that Japan was going to stop making ATS134 and that the world is just going through the left over stock of steel. I am not sure if that is true but if it is, 154CM is just fine. The people that want this kind of stainless steel, 154CM is every bit as good as ATS134. It may very well be the same steel, I don't know. I do know they are both fine stainless steel for knife blades and that's coming from a Carbon Steel lover.

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In MemoriamPermalink Reply by Robert Burris on May 20, 2014 at 8:31

Ya'll know my favorite steels are Carbon but I must admit some stainless steels do a fine job. ATS34 and 154CM are two that do a fine job. I have several knives in ATS134 but only two in 154CM, so it's hard for me to compare the two steels. If I were to compare them, on my limited samples, I would say 154CM takes a sharper edge. I wish I had more knives to compare. Does anyone else feel this way?

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Permalink Reply by Peter Howard on May 20, 2014 at 8:52

I do, I'm always wishing I had more knives :)

Robert Burris said:

Ya'll know my favorite steels are Carbon but I must admit some stainless steels do a fine job. ATS34 and 154CM are two that do a fine job. I have several knives in ATS134 but only two in 154CM, so it's hard for me to compare the two steels. If I were to compare them, on my limited samples, I would say 154CM takes a sharper edge. I wish I had more knives to compare. Does anyone else feel this way?

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Permalink Reply by Jan Carter on May 20, 2014 at 19:19

I prefer the 154CPM as does Donnie, Robert. It takes an edge easier for me and it holds better for him

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Permalink Reply by Jon Salmon on May 23, 2014 at 11:06

Since my comments about preferring ATS-34 on any club knife from Queen seem to have sparked some discussion on the relative merits of this steel compared to other, newer "super-steels", I want to be clear that my desire for ATS-34 was limited to any club knife from Queen, since I believe that this is the ONLY high-end STAINLESS steel they offer. I've got a boatload of D-2 and 1095 Queen pieces, and accordingly, I would much prefer a stainless steel IF Jan decides on an offering from Queen. Cheers - Jon S.

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In MemoriamPermalink Reply by Robert Burris on May 23, 2014 at 18:29

I have no problem with Ats134, we were just talking "Steel".

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Permalink Reply by elbin bunnell sr on June 1, 2014 at 18:03

all i wount to say is miss jan you have done a fantictic job and I'm behind you 100%

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Permalink Reply by Jan Carter on June 3, 2014 at 8:53

Thank you Elbin! This is the moment I like best, when it starts to come down to "this is what we can offer". Blade and decisions are right around the corner!