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Anyone know what this knife says on the engraving? worth? what kind of knife exactly?

im not sure if this is a collectors knife or not im hoping someone with more experience could let me know it would be much appreciated, and if it was something old and unique how much it could be possibly worth... if you cant make out the words i'll try to take a clearer picture just let me know.. thanks

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Permalink Reply by Steve Hanner on January 21, 2013 at 8:07

Well it is an interesting knife. I can't quite make out all the writing on the blade. Try loading a close up of the writing if you can on your 'My Page" that will allow me to magnify it and see if can be translated. I also need you to tell me in addition to this writing and scrollwork on the blade, are there any stamps or markings near the base of the blade near the handle? I would assume not though as that overlay looks to cover that area. Our best bet is to translate and determine country of origin.

I would say this is some type of ceremonial blade, perhaps given to some one for service or as recognition.

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Permalink Reply by Matt Bertleff on January 21, 2013 at 11:25

ok i used my printer scanner its very hard to get it at the right angle i hope it came out good enough for you, if not i will try again and thankyou for the response and the welcome, this is an interesting site and as a apprentice of knives im hoping to learn a lot.

Steve Hanner said:

Well it is an interesting knife. I can't quite make out all the writing on the blade. Try loading a close up of the writing if you can on your 'My Page" that will allow me to magnify it and see if can be translated. I also need you to tell me in addition to this writing and scrollwork on the blade, are there any stamps or markings near the base of the blade near the handle? I would assume not though as that overlay looks to cover that area. Our best bet is to translate and determine country of origin.

I would say this is some type of ceremonial blade, perhaps given to some one for service or as recognition.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Hanner on January 21, 2013 at 11:29

I will take a look for you Matt and try to make out what this is. We try to help everybody we can here so you are in a good place Matt! Well I can see its is dated 1913, that's impressive right there.

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Permalink Reply by Matt Bertleff on January 21, 2013 at 11:30

i really appreciate your time and it seems like a great place to be!

Steve Hanner said:

I will take a look for you Matt and try to make out what this is. We try to help everybody we can here so you are in a good place Matt!

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Permalink Reply by Alexander Noot on January 21, 2013 at 12:44

Checked with some friends of mine. Will let you know if I hear something back.

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Permalink Reply by Alexander Noot on January 21, 2013 at 13:44

According to my friend:

and the first picture says something along the lines of:
the work of Konstantinous???
Greece 1913
The bottom line says something like Pyroun which they suspect means fire

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Permalink Reply by Steve Hanner on January 21, 2013 at 14:47

Check how this site explains it! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konstantinos_Tsiklitiras

or basically:

Konstantinos Tsiklitiras (Greek: Κωνσταντίνος Τσικλητήρας; October 30, 1888 – February 10, 1913) was a Greek athlete and Olympic champion.

Born in Pylos, he moved to Athens to study commerce. Tsiklitiras soon took up sports. He practiced soccer (for Panathinaikos) and water polo, but is best remembered for winning four Olympic medals in standing long jump and standing high jump. He became Greek champion 19 times.

His career came to a halt in 1913 when he volunteered to fight in the Balkan Wars and fought at the Battle of Bizani, although he could avoid conscription he insisted on fighting for his country. He contracted meningitis and died at the age of 24. His family home still exists ( October 2012 ) in Pylos, Greece, it is functioning as a museum of his athletic achievements, and is adorned by his marble statue in front of it.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Hanner on January 21, 2013 at 14:56

This very well may have been a commemorative piece that is in recognition of his heroic efforts. Marking the date forever in time. Perhaps they knew him, or of him. If you could fully translate the writing it might be the key to the final understanding. But I think we are on the right track. Thank you Alexander and please thank your friend.

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Permalink Reply by Ron Cooper on January 21, 2013 at 15:16

Wow! As a member of this forum I am completely blown away by the help and information that you have provided, Steve. Not just in this instance, but so many others. I tip my hat to you, sir!

Isn't it amazing how much information we have available today right at our fingertips! Very cool!

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Permalink Reply by Jan Carter on January 21, 2013 at 15:30

Alexander and Hog! Amazing research, I know Matt is now trying to decipher what it says

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Permalink Reply by Matt Bertleff on January 21, 2013 at 15:38

its awesome to hear that but the only problem is theres alot of people at that time of the balkan wars whose name was Konstantinos..if you google the name you'll see what i mean its very hard to decipher even though i found some greek languages that mimic some letters, i cant find other letters that match the chape of the letter.